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Post by chris2365 on Jul 18, 2017 17:09:58 GMT
Welcome back, old friend Sad to see Aaryn go, but glad that Casey is back on board. Like others have said, having the visionary behind KOTOR and Mass Effect can only help Bioware, especially if development troubles were due to management like the Kotaku article claims. If there's one thing we know about Mr. Hudson, he knows what kind of game he wants to see, and knows how to achieve that. With luck, this will also mean the continuation of Mass Effect as well
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Post by Steelcan on Jul 18, 2017 17:11:11 GMT
I really don't see why having Hudson back is a good thing
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Post by Fen'Harel Faceman on Jul 18, 2017 17:12:35 GMT
Tbh, it doesn't really matter what he'll be working on. This man made KOTOR and the ME trilogy what they were. There is no scenario where this won't be positive.I'm sorry to see Flynn go, though. DAI was awesome. Not necessarily true. He was in charge during the ME3 ending debacle. Also according to rumor, he was personally involved in the mess.
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Post by Steelcan on Jul 18, 2017 17:13:45 GMT
Tbh, it doesn't really matter what he'll be working on. This man made KOTOR and the ME trilogy what they were. There is no scenario where this won't be positive.I'm sorry to see Flynn go, though. DAI was awesome. Not necessarily true. He was in charge during the ME3 ending debacle. Also according to rumor, he was personally involved in the mess. that's really the most important thing. I don't care about his work on KOTOR or ME1 and 2, I'm looking at the most recent thing he's been involved in, and it was a shitshow
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Post by Steelcan on Jul 18, 2017 17:14:16 GMT
Not necessarily true. He was in charge during the ME3 ending debacle. Also according to rumor, he was personally involved in the mess. Pretty sure lessons were learned. No one is that stupid to repeat them again, especially with BW so vulnerable at the moment. banking on BioWare's competence I think is a losing proposition at this stage
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Post by Fen'Harel Faceman on Jul 18, 2017 17:15:51 GMT
Not necessarily true. He was in charge during the ME3 ending debacle. Also according to rumor, he was personally involved in the mess. Pretty sure lessons were learned. No one is that stupid to repeat them again, especially with BW so vulnerable at the moment. There is no way to say this with any certainty. You don't know him. But we do know he's got his share of responsibility for the incident. I for one have mixed feelings about him coming back, not that it will matter. He's come back, only time will tell what the impact will be.
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Post by kotoreffect3 on Jul 18, 2017 17:16:41 GMT
Tbh, it doesn't really matter what he'll be working on. This man made KOTOR and the ME trilogy what they were. There is no scenario where this won't be positive.I'm sorry to see Flynn go, though. DAI was awesome. Not necessarily true. He was in charge during the ME3 ending debacle. Also according to rumor, he was personally involved in the mess. And despite the ending controversy ME 3 was still largely a success as was the trilogy as a whole. As a whole the Trilogy was a successful body of work. He was the one running the show back then for the ME franchise. Sure there were other people there that helped make it a success but nobody has done more for this franchise than him.
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Post by haolyn on Jul 18, 2017 17:17:06 GMT
A change in GM doesn't necessarily mean a change in strategy, especially if said strategy is dictated by EA. Anything is possible long-term I guess, but I doubt this will have any effect on MEA's present situation.
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Post by Cyberstrike on Jul 18, 2017 17:17:27 GMT
The same here. I don't hate Hudson or anything but I don't know what he can do to "fix" or "correct" whatever internal problems that BioWare seem to has these days (and to be honest there are some problems he can't fix because of EA's constant melding), but on the other hand if he can at least try to help BioWare get back on track and if he succeeds then I'm all for it. I'm just hoping he and the others at BW learned from MEA to not give in to the threats and demands of so called fans on Twitter. Honestly I thought the last BioWare game that Hudson was working on, Shadow Realms (or something like that), looked a lot more interesting than Anthem does. IMHO Anthem looks generic and bland with no real identity of it's own and every time I think of that title I think of Global Force Wrestling's parent company.
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Post by ShadowAngel on Jul 18, 2017 17:17:37 GMT
I really don't see why having Hudson back is a good thing Depends on how you look at it. To many he did good work till ME3 when he crammed in an abomination ending. For the most part many would say his direction or creative thinking will be a positive even with a hiccup every so often. Honestly, I'm leaning towards being curious how things play out cause to my knowledge he never was a GM, it's a very different position than creative lead like he was in the past, he's got a lot more to cover now and to me it's to early to say if this is a good move or not. It does bring back someone with experience in a leadership role which is my biggest take on it, and honestly I think he's more passionate than Flynn ever was.
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Post by bshep on Jul 18, 2017 17:17:50 GMT
Tbh, it doesn't really matter what he'll be working on. This man made KOTOR and the ME trilogy what they were. There is no scenario where this won't be positive.I'm sorry to see Flynn go, though. DAI was awesome. Not necessarily true. He was in charge during the ME3 ending debacle. Also according to rumor, he was personally involved in the mess. It was a reddit rumor. I think we can dismiss that claim. Anyway, i don't see any kind of hidden conspiracy behind his return.
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Post by suikoden on Jul 18, 2017 17:18:01 GMT
Anthem confirmed as a massive hit. How is it? Finally someone in charge with an overarching hard-sci-fi vision, whereas Andromeda - whether you liked it or not, lacked a cohesive vision. Seems like it was trying too hard to be everything to too many people, partly due to all the shifts in management that probably each had a different take on its overall direction.
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Post by SofNascimento on Jul 18, 2017 17:18:32 GMT
Fantastic news.
I had lost all hope for Bioware, but now I can look foward to something.
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Post by kotoreffect3 on Jul 18, 2017 17:19:47 GMT
Not necessarily true. He was in charge during the ME3 ending debacle. Also according to rumor, he was personally involved in the mess. that's really the most important thing. I don't care about his work on KOTOR or ME1 and 2, I'm looking at the most recent thing he's been involved in, and it was a shitshow You can't dismiss the fact that he was part of some of bioware's most succesful projects due to a lousy ten minutes in ME 3 (which in it's own right was still a damn good game).
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Post by vonuber on Jul 18, 2017 17:20:36 GMT
Finally someone in charge with an overarching hard-sci-fi vision, whereas Andromeda - whether you liked it or not, lacked a cohesive vision. Seems like it was trying too hard to be everything to too many people, partly due to all the shifts in management that probably each had a different take on its overall direction. Maybe, but that says nothing about Anthem which is just a Destiny clone and likely to be buried by it.
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Post by suikoden on Jul 18, 2017 17:26:03 GMT
Finally someone in charge with an overarching hard-sci-fi vision, whereas Andromeda - whether you liked it or not, lacked a cohesive vision. Seems like it was trying too hard to be everything to too many people, partly due to all the shifts in management that probably each had a different take on its overall direction. Maybe, but that says nothing about Anthem which is just a Destiny clone and likely to be buried by it. I'm just more confident now that it can sidestep such issues that plagued Andromeda - "Casey how about this scene, these animations look ok" - "fuck no those are awful try again"
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Post by KaiserShep on Jul 18, 2017 17:27:12 GMT
Not necessarily true. He was in charge during the ME3 ending debacle. Also according to rumor, he was personally involved in the mess. that's really the most important thing. I don't care about his work on KOTOR or ME1 and 2, I'm looking at the most recent thing he's been involved in, and it was a shitshow Hard to see how the most important thing is maybe 20 or so minutes of a serious misstep against many hours of what fans generally consider rather great, even the bulk of ME3 (regardless of what its most vocal BSN critics might want to believe). But, then again, I'm one of those weirdos that thinks the most serious issues exist in ME2.
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Post by tarotmage on Jul 18, 2017 17:28:41 GMT
There definitely were going to be repercussions over the "Andromeda" brouhaha. Not surprised over Mr. Flynn's departure, just that it happened before the six-month cutoff I gave it following "Andromeda's" underwhelming reaction. As for Mr. Hudson's return, it's been over five years since the "Mass Effect 3 'artistic integrity'" controversy. Time will tell if that's enough. Personally I'm taking a wait-and-see attitude. My feelings towards "Andromeda" were ones of disappointment...and currently I'm just not feeling that "Anthem" excitement. EA's treatment of "Andromeda" PC players didn't help any, either. Of course, this is just my opinion. Your mileage may vary.
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Post by Steelcan on Jul 18, 2017 17:29:14 GMT
that's really the most important thing. I don't care about his work on KOTOR or ME1 and 2, I'm looking at the most recent thing he's been involved in, and it was a shitshow Hard to see how the most important thing is maybe 20 or so minutes of a serious misstep against many hours of what fans generally consider rather great, even the bulk of ME3 (regardless of what its most vocal BSN critics might want to believe). But, then again, I'm one of those weirdos that thinks the most serious issues exist in ME2. well I don't think the endings were the only serious issues with ME3, its just hard to tell exactly he bears the most responsibility for
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Post by OdanUrr on Jul 18, 2017 17:29:59 GMT
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Post by Steelcan on Jul 18, 2017 17:30:14 GMT
that's really the most important thing. I don't care about his work on KOTOR or ME1 and 2, I'm looking at the most recent thing he's been involved in, and it was a shitshow You can't dismiss the fact that he was part of some of bioware's most succesful projects due to a lousy ten minutes in ME 3 (which in it's own right was still a damn good game). I'd disagree, I think the endings overshadowed a lot of other problems with the game that just got lost in the hooplah
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Post by Fen'Harel Faceman on Jul 18, 2017 17:30:37 GMT
Not necessarily true. He was in charge during the ME3 ending debacle. Also according to rumor, he was personally involved in the mess. And despite the ending controversy ME 3 was still largely a success as was the trilogy as a whole. As a whole the Trilogy was a successful body of work. He was the one running the show back then for the ME franchise. Sure there were other people there that helped make it a success but nobody has done more for this franchise than him. There are plenty of legit criticisms, including his presiding over the rool of cool influences that changed the ME franchise into something less than what it could be. Nobody with a functioning brain believes that ME3 was a critical success, it was obvious at the time that "gaming journalism" had become bought and paid for - a joke (this is one of the reasons why having a gaming journalist as a character in the game was rightly criticized) and that Casey himself was responsible for tons of public relations hyperbole that many considered (rightly) false advertising. None of that can be swept under the rug or forgotten.
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Post by haolyn on Jul 18, 2017 17:31:29 GMT
I think all Bioware games had problems of their own that were due to a multitude of factors, not just whoever was the man in charge of making them.
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Post by Andrew Lucas on Jul 18, 2017 17:37:25 GMT
Tbh, it doesn't really matter what he'll be working on. This man made KOTOR and the ME trilogy what they were. There is no scenario where this won't be positive.I'm sorry to see Flynn go, though. DAI was awesome. Not necessarily true. He was in charge during the ME3 ending debacle. Also according to rumor, he was personally involved in the mess. Now we listen to these rumors, eh?
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Post by Fen'Harel Faceman on Jul 18, 2017 17:38:25 GMT
Not necessarily true. He was in charge during the ME3 ending debacle. Also according to rumor, he was personally involved in the mess. Now we listen to these rumors, eh? I clearly described it as a rumor, so it's up to the individual to decide if they believe it or not. Me, I take it as just that. Rumor.
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