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Post by smilesja on Jul 18, 2017 18:24:17 GMT
I had the most fun playing ME3, so I guess I don't have a functioning brain. Well, really if we're talking about whether or not a game is a critical success, whether or not any one of us here likes it doesn't matter. I only took a brief look around the internet to find review scores, and overall it seems to be quite positive. It seems to me that regardless of its pitfalls, ME3 has a generally high critic score. And that maybe due to EA paying reviewers off.
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Post by KaiserShep on Jul 18, 2017 18:25:41 GMT
Well, really if we're talking about whether or not a game is a critical success, whether or not any one of us here likes it doesn't matter. I only took a brief look around the internet to find review scores, and overall it seems to be quite positive. It seems to me that regardless of its pitfalls, ME3 has a generally high critic score. And that maybe due to EA paying reviewers off. Admittedly I never really followed stories around ME3 at the time, but is it more than a maybe?
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Post by Revan Reborn on Jul 18, 2017 18:26:00 GMT
Casey is the father of KOTOR and the Mass Effect trilogy (right alongside Drew Karpyshyn), some of the greatest RPGs ever created. This is a good trade off, even if I'll miss Aaryn Flynn. BioWare is back on track, baby!!!
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Post by SofaJockey on Jul 18, 2017 18:27:28 GMT
Naturally, after July 31st, aarynflynn is welcome to come and shit-post here with the rest of us. I suppose there will be NDA's and so forth (sigh)
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Post by smilesja on Jul 18, 2017 18:27:45 GMT
And that maybe due to EA paying reviewers off. Admittedly I never really followed stories around ME3 at the time, but is it more than a maybe? A lot of gamers were very suspicious of the very high review scores of ME3. Some of them gave it a 10.
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Post by Cyan_Griffonclaw on Jul 18, 2017 18:28:09 GMT
Nah, that treatment has been reserved for DA:2 and Andromeda. Inquisition was ok and didn't get the hate until after Witcher 3 was released. The fact they're delaying Anthem and now bringing Hudson back gives me confidence they're serious about this one. "A delayed game is eventually good, a rushed game is forever bad." I remember some people hating on origins for not being baldurs gate. That was short-lived. Also, WotC jacked around with license and took easy money from Atari or Infogrames or whatever it is now. The license wasn't (I know it's incredible) EA's fault. Hudson has baggage. I am not optimistic and disappointed that Flynn is stepping down.
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Post by sjsharp2010 on Jul 18, 2017 18:28:34 GMT
I see but truly I was more thinking about the development process and the animation issues that plagued the game at launch. Yeah that's the thing. He was pretty much trapped in the middle of all the controversies. That romance one was huge, the female dev being attacked, etc... MEA launched at a very bad time. Indeed I don't think that ewould happen again not with Casey in charge He'd defend ME to the hilt considering he created that universe. Don't know if he's played/looked at MEA and the problems it's facing but I hope he does as it would be good to get his take on it. Especially as I said he was one of the key figures in creating that universe.
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Post by hydroflame20 on Jul 18, 2017 18:29:16 GMT
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Post by KaiserShep on Jul 18, 2017 18:29:59 GMT
Admittedly I never really followed stories around ME3 at the time, but is it more than a maybe? A lot of gamers were very suspicious of the very high review scores of ME3. Some of them gave it a 10. Fair enough, but I'd still have to consider it little more than rumor.
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Post by Cyan_Griffonclaw on Jul 18, 2017 18:30:05 GMT
I had the most fun playing ME3, so I guess I don't have a functioning brain. I wasn't saying anyone who enjoyed the game doesn't have a functioning brain. Critical success is different in this context than personal enjoyment of the game... in other words, I was taking aim at the gaming journalist faction. They rightfully were seen as corrupt - those taking money from large video game publishers and delivering padded positive game reviews. This too-close relationship was on exhibition when a gaming journalist was allowed to voice a character in the game. Allers apparently knew how to give great... Expression in her dialogue. That was a total bull crap move by BioWare.
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Post by sjsharp2010 on Jul 18, 2017 18:32:01 GMT
So how will this affect Mass Effect going forward? Most likely positively, but we won't really know for long while. Yeah I think it will lead to a positive outcome for Mass Effect
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Post by smilesja on Jul 18, 2017 18:32:39 GMT
I had the most fun playing ME3, so I guess I don't have a functioning brain. I wasn't saying anyone who enjoyed the game doesn't have a functioning brain. Critical success is different in this context than personal enjoyment of the game... in other words, I was taking aim at the gaming journalist faction. They rightfully were seen as corrupt - those taking money from large video game publishers and delivering padded positive game reviews. This too-close relationship was on exhibition when a gaming journalist was allowed to voice a character in the game. Forgot about that. Yeah that was huge issue.
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Post by Vortex13 on Jul 18, 2017 18:32:41 GMT
Very interesting turn of events. I hope that Casey Hudson will be overlooking the continuation of Mass Effect and not just Anthem. As the brain child of the Mass Effect franchise I am happy to see him return, hopefully this will see a move back towards a more nuanced series, like when it started, but with the hindsight to allow for collaborative insights, so as to avoid another ME 3 ending debacle. The only other person we need back working for BioWare now is Chris L'Etoile.
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Post by Cyan_Griffonclaw on Jul 18, 2017 18:33:33 GMT
Most likely positively, but we won't really know for long while. Yeah I think it will lead to a positive outcome for Mass Effect But what about the grunts? How do they feel? If they're positive then I am.
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Post by Trivial on Jul 18, 2017 18:36:05 GMT
I clearly described it as a rumor, so it's up to the individual to decide if they believe it or not. Me, I take it as just that. Rumor. I remember reading something about Mac and Casey locking themselves up in a room to write the ending separate from the other writers. Don't know how much of it is true though. There was a leaked demo in November (by Microsoft) of the previous year in which the entire game script was data mined and the ending was basically the one that we got. The Geoff Keighley "Final Hours of Mass Effect 3" talks about this. Walters and Hudson left to the end the sequence with the Illusive Man.
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Post by sjsharp2010 on Jul 18, 2017 18:37:05 GMT
Indeed I don't think that ewould happen again not with Casey in charge He'd defend ME to the hilt considering he created that universe. Don't know if he's played/looked at MEA and the problems it's facing but I hope he does as it would be good to get his take on it. Especially as I said he was one of the key figures in creating that universe. Yeah despite all the patching, in my eyes, how MEA launched is how it will always be remembered. Patches don't make Scott/Jaal canon or permanently fix what broke during the launch. They are bandages to stop the bleeding wound, but the scar remains. Yeah but if there is anyone out there that can save ME from the trouble it's found itself in it's probably him.
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Post by ArabianIGoggles on Jul 18, 2017 18:37:26 GMT
I had the most fun playing ME3, so I guess I don't have a functioning brain. I wasn't saying anyone who enjoyed the game doesn't have a functioning brain. Critical success is different in this context than personal enjoyment of the game... in other words, I was taking aim at the gaming journalist faction. They rightfully were seen as corrupt - those taking money from large video game publishers and delivering padded positive game reviews. This too-close relationship was on exhibition when a gaming journalist was allowed to voice a character in the game. This is nothing new though. The call of duty games always got a good review, even if some of them are complete shit. Hell, I'll never forget about PC Gamer giving Duke Nukem Forvever an 80.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 18, 2017 18:38:37 GMT
I'm not saying the guy is perfect but to suggest that completely undermines successfully directing the only cohesive trilogy in gaming (as well as pretty much the best Star Wars game in its history), then I think you're being a little too harsh. And FWIW, I tend to look on the ME3 ending situation as being similar to the MEA reception - a root issue that was hyperinflated to the point of insanity. I was one of those who really enjoyed the High EMS/Destroy ending post-EC DLC. I enjoyed the ME3 ending too. Please... don't dredge those memories up...
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Post by Croatsky on Jul 18, 2017 18:39:49 GMT
Very interesting turn of events. I hope that Casey Hudson will be overlooking the continuation of Mass Effect and not just Anthem. As the brain child of the Mass Effect franchise I am happy to see him return, hopefully this will see a move back towards a more nuanced series, like when it started, but with the hindsight to allow for collaborative insights, so as to avoid another ME 3 ending debacle. The only other person we need back working for BioWare now is Chris L'Etoile. Casey will overlook every BioWare project, not just Anthem.
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Post by sjsharp2010 on Jul 18, 2017 18:39:57 GMT
Yeah I think it will lead to a positive outcome for Mass Effect But what about the grunts? How do they feel? If they're positive then I am. I doubt we'l lever have the answer t othat question unless BioTiberius wants to comment.
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Post by linksocarina on Jul 18, 2017 18:40:01 GMT
I had the most fun playing ME3, so I guess I don't have a functioning brain. I wasn't saying anyone who enjoyed the game doesn't have a functioning brain. Critical success is different in this context than personal enjoyment of the game... in other words, I was taking aim at the gaming journalist faction. They rightfully were seen as corrupt - those taking money from large video game publishers and delivering padded positive game reviews. This too-close relationship was on exhibition when a gaming journalist was allowed to voice a character in the game. I wish my review of the game back in 2012 was still around. Still gave it an 8/10 in the end. No cushy relationship with someone, no money exchanged (which is always a bullshit claim anyway, as someone who does reviews at best you get a review code a few days early) just personal thoughts on what was played.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 18, 2017 18:40:44 GMT
Admittedly I never really followed stories around ME3 at the time, but is it more than a maybe? A lot of gamers were very suspicious of the very high review scores of ME3. Some of them gave it a 10. Conspiracy theory alert: I think that is one of the reason's ME:A was rated as low as it was.
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Post by Fiery Phoenix on Jul 18, 2017 18:44:13 GMT
This is very good news as far as I'm concerned. Very happy to see the visionary back.
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