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Post by guanxi on Jul 20, 2017 17:10:50 GMT
Would APEX Requirements for Each Tier Improve MEAMP?
This post might sound entitled as fuck but it is what it is. Playing with friends isn't always an option so occasionally (as you do) I'll join a random Platinum lobby and it will be filled with players who either can't have played more than an hour or are just so laughably underprepared I'd rather immediately quit MP and re-login just so I don't get dropped into the same hopeless lobby over and over and as I'm staring at loading screens I think to myself... what a crap system this is.
Why these people keep coming to platinum like hordes of bronze zombies I don't know. Either they lack the self-awareness of how poorly equipped they are which is a failing of the game's UI system or they just don't care and are looking to leach off people who have put in the hours and hours required to contribute effectively at that level.
Surely getting kicked 500 times, making lobby wait times 10x longer and platinum games 25%-50%+ harder/longer you would have thought they would have got the message. Why doesn't BioWare just make the tiers unlockable rewards so that every player in a lobby is guaranteed to have achieved a basic manifest standard required for a given difficulty level so as to ensure they will not struggle and have a negative experience and save us the hassle of having to kick people out of games over and over again like professional nightclub bouncers?
You could argue about what each Apex Requirement might or should be but for me from my experiences I'd probably say:
APEX 0: Bronze (default) APEX 2.5K: Silver (Silver Trophy/Achievement/Banner) APEX 5K: Gold (Gold Trophy/Achievement/Banner) APEX 10k: Platinum (UR unlock/Banner)
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Post by Uchimura on Jul 20, 2017 17:12:23 GMT
5k for plat should be fine I think.. Don't think it'd be needed elsewhere.
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Post by Transcended One on Jul 20, 2017 17:32:19 GMT
No, because there are 20K+ players on PC who suck balls.
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Post by guanxi on Jul 20, 2017 17:34:22 GMT
5k for plat should be fine I think.. Don't think it'd be needed elsewhere. People significantly below APEX <10k tend to be miles behind everyone else imo.
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Post by JRandall0308 on Jul 20, 2017 17:37:58 GMT
No.
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Post by jadedragonmtr on Jul 20, 2017 17:45:10 GMT
IMO, challenge points are a better indicator as one would have to complete certain amount of gameplay to earn them. You can increase Apex ratings by buying stuff, not necessarily by playing. But we can't easily see challenge points here like in ME3.
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Post by JulianVerse on Jul 20, 2017 17:52:01 GMT
No, because there are 20K+ players on PC who suck balls. ^^^ I played only a little MP at first and then when I felt like I got the hang of combat/powers from SP, I played more. It took me forever (real-world time) to get past like 3k because of all the time I spent in SP. The instant I went into gold matches after I started MP again, I was topping scoreboards and wondering why these people with 15k sucked so bad and died every 20 seconds. When platinum came out I was like 7k. I've been doing alright, and I still only have a hurricane I.
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Post by DoctorFox on Jul 20, 2017 17:55:08 GMT
I think it would improve MEA MP .... if... and this is a big IF the game had a large enough following. It's hard enough finding a full 4 person squad on platinum already. Adding restrictions to the search pool would make it even more difficult to find games.
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Post by BadgerladDK on Jul 20, 2017 18:03:21 GMT
Nope, Apex is a great indicator of time spent, but not skill. Was running golds with a friend and two pugs yesterday. The 17k pug on a shield boost character died a lot more than the 2.5k adept. And it wasn't the 17k guy who played the objectives.
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Post by zan on Jul 20, 2017 18:08:51 GMT
APEX rating is largely an indicator of time instead (barring cheating) which is also an indicator of msnifest status. Only reason I would like a requirement is to prevent downright silliness of first timers in platinum. So 500 points for silver 1500 for gold 5000 for platinum
Yes this will cutoff a small portion of population that can perform well even at low APEX but at least it will provide some relief to plat lobbies. Had a 300 APEX level 1 kroguard join an in progress plat match and not get kicked because one person didn't know how/ didnt care.
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Post by kumazan on Jul 20, 2017 18:13:24 GMT
Nah, I've seen (few, admittedly) people under 1k apex do well enough in gold. If anything, I'd consider locking platinum behind a number of gold extractions.
Edit: Also, c'mon, I'm a scrub and I was regularly succesfully extracting silver way before 5k APEX. I'm sure most 5k APEX people would be doing well in gold in no time if they went for it.
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Post by jadedragonmtr on Jul 20, 2017 18:14:38 GMT
Of course not in GIP, but in the lobby you can check the character levels, weapon levels, gear/boosters to ensure a decent loadout.
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Post by JRandall0308 on Jul 20, 2017 18:15:38 GMT
Git gud. Learn 2 curry.
Or play with friends only.
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Post by angrybobh on Jul 20, 2017 18:29:14 GMT
Which would be better in platinum?
a team of 3 non cloakers and a low apex, low level infiltrator
or a team with nothing but Leroy Jenkins wannabes with high APEX?
A carry looks pretty good there.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 20, 2017 18:29:54 GMT
No, because there are 20K+ players on PC who suck balls. Hey! I resemble that remark...
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Post by jadedragonmtr on Jul 20, 2017 18:46:44 GMT
Which would be better in platinum? a team of 3 non cloakers and a low apex, low level infiltrator or a team with nothing but Leroy Jenkins wannabes with high APEX? A carry looks pretty good there. I've played with both types. The former had higher success rate because we talked (100% success rate actually), the latter 50% becaus we didn't communicate.
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Post by Transcended One on Jul 20, 2017 19:12:41 GMT
No, because there are 20K+ players on PC who suck balls. Hey! I resemble that remark... That's because I was referring specifically to you .
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Post by Jeremiah12LGeek on Jul 20, 2017 19:14:32 GMT
No way.
Best thing ever was when I managed to spend almost a month playing Gold on PS 3 as a N7 rank 69.
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Post by Transcended One on Jul 20, 2017 19:19:00 GMT
No way. Best thing ever was when I managed to spend almost a month playing Gold on PS 3 as a N7 rank 69. N7 rating <> APEX rating.
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