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Post by BioFan on Jul 20, 2017 21:06:29 GMT
The news lowdown on EVERYTHING we know about Dragon Age 4 including details on where the plot is going,
what was learned from previous games, developer interviews, etc.
What're you wanting to see most from the game in general? Which cameos are you hoping will happen?
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Post by tacsear on Jul 20, 2017 21:13:40 GMT
I'm planning on saying in the dark as much as possible. I was following every aspect of mea development now it feels like a wasted of time. I'm not planning on repeating that.
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Post by shechinah on Jul 20, 2017 21:18:04 GMT
I'm planning on saying in the dark as much as possible. I was following every aspect of mea development now it feels like a wasted of time. I'm not planning on repeating that. Man, it's going to be so hard for me to stay in the dark. I want to especially in regards to companions but the temptation...!
Thank for the collection of information, BioFan!
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Post by Fen'Harel Faceman on Jul 20, 2017 21:27:48 GMT
While I know they feel like they tied off the main protag in Inquisitor with Trespasser... they really didn't. The last scene is based off a choice in the last dialogue with Solas and it's clearly the Quizzy and some select friends plotting on how to handle Solas in the future. Hopefully, they'll slap the Inquisitor in there somewhere, using the Keep, if they're not going to be the main protag again.
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Post by kumazan on Jul 20, 2017 21:49:05 GMT
I'm getting hungry for DA, and I know it's still easily 3 years away.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 20, 2017 21:59:24 GMT
Was there a news update, if so, where? Or is it just a summary of Trespasser or something?
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Jul 20, 2017 22:15:18 GMT
Can't believe they are actually throwing away the Inquisitor just to follow their stupid rule about a new protagonist every game. It is such a waste of a good story.
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Post by Fen'Harel Faceman on Jul 20, 2017 22:21:34 GMT
Can't believe they are actually throwing away the Inquisitor just to follow their stupid rule about a new protagonist every game. It is such a waste of a good story. I speculate that they may be trying to stay away from another Cmdr Shepard situation. But, they did think seriously about the Quizzy being Hawke at one time, so maybe they'll revisit this idea...
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Post by shechinah on Jul 20, 2017 22:24:01 GMT
Was there a news update, if so, where? Or is it just a summary of Trespasser or something? The video is basically information from Bioware that BioFan has collected for a video. While it contains some speculation, it is mostly information that people may not know about.
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Post by shechinah on Jul 20, 2017 22:26:07 GMT
Can't believe they are actually throwing away the Inquisitor just to follow their stupid rule about a new protagonist every game. It is such a waste of a good story. It does not necessarily mean that the Inquisitor will be completely absent in Dragon Age 4: it merely means that the Inquisitor is unlikely to be the main protagonist. I'm keeping to hoping until further notice.
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Post by shechinah on Jul 20, 2017 22:31:56 GMT
While I know they feel like they tied off the main protag in Inquisitor with Trespasser... they really didn't. The last scene is based off a choice in the last dialogue with Solas and it's clearly the Quizzy and some select friends plotting on how to handle Solas in the future. Hopefully, they'll slap the Inquisitor in there somewhere, using the Keep, if they're not going to be the main protag again. True but I think the line "Then we'll find people he doesn't know." is universal. In that and Solas' familiarity with the Inquisitor, I think they meant tying off the Inquisitor as the protagonist. The familiarity would mean Solas could have a significant advantage when it came to tracking the Inquisitor's movements if the latter took to the field as they did in Inquisition as oppose to assigning that role to an agent such as the new protagonist. If the Tevinter Imperium is the destination for the next game then that also provides a reason for why the Inquisitor as a protagonist would be a problem since the Inquisitor is known in Tevinter and not by kind words. That said, that familiarity and that line does not, however, exclude the possibility that the Inquisitor may be present in some other role or appearance of sorts. My hope is still on either dual protagonist with the majority of time dedicated to the new one with the other time dedicated to the Inquisitor specifically in regards to Solas. My reserve hope is the Inquisitor as a playable character for specific segments to avoid the problems that were with Hawke's which could be far more troublesome with the Inquisitor.
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Jul 20, 2017 22:59:35 GMT
Can't believe they are actually throwing away the Inquisitor just to follow their stupid rule about a new protagonist every game. It is such a waste of a good story. It does not necessarily mean that the Inquisitor will be completely absent in Dragon Age 4: it merely means that the Inquisitor is unlikely to be the main protagonist. I'm keeping to hoping until further notice. So they get the NPC treatment? No thank you. They've already ruined two protagonists by doing that.
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Post by Hrungr on Jul 20, 2017 23:11:40 GMT
A good summary of where thing are at (especially digging up those tweets from ages ago)!
That said, Mark did squash those DA Tactics Game rumors recently...
Mark Darrah @biomarkdarrah Jun 29, 2017 Things I (EP of The Dragon Age Franchise) am NOT currently working on: Anthem Mass Effect Jade Empire™ A DA Tactics game Star Wars
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Post by Zemgus on Jul 20, 2017 23:30:21 GMT
Can't believe they are actually throwing away the Inquisitor just to follow their stupid rule about a new protagonist every game. It is such a waste of a good story. I speculate that they may be trying to stay away from another Cmdr Shepard situation. But, they did think seriously about the Quizzy being Hawke at one time, so maybe they'll revisit this idea... I've seen this said so many times yet I've never seen any actual evidence of this. In fact I remember one of the devs saying something totally opposite on the old forums. Bioware considering Hawke to be the Inquisitor is nothing more than pure fan speculation as far as I know yet people constantly mention it like it's a fact...
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Post by tacsear on Jul 20, 2017 23:33:49 GMT
I speculate that they may be trying to stay away from another Cmdr Shepard situation. But, they did think seriously about the Quizzy being Hawke at one time, so maybe they'll revisit this idea... I've seen this said so many times yet I've never seen any actual evidence of this. In fact I remember one of the devs saying something totally opposite on the old forums. Bioware considering Hawke to be the Inquisitor is nothing more than pure fan speculation as far as I know yet people constantly mention it like it's a fact... I think it is because Hawke was really characterised like Shepard was and people saw it as an attempt of DA team trying to create their own Shepard
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Post by Fen'Harel Faceman on Jul 20, 2017 23:36:34 GMT
I speculate that they may be trying to stay away from another Cmdr Shepard situation. But, they did think seriously about the Quizzy being Hawke at one time, so maybe they'll revisit this idea... I've seen this said so many times yet I've never seen any actual evidence of this. In fact I remember one of the devs saying something totally opposite on the old forums. Bioware considering Hawke to be the Inquisitor is nothing more than pure fan speculation as far as I know yet people constantly mention it like it's a fact... A couple of days ago during a Q&A session at GX Australia, BioWare’s former Lead Write David Gaider shed some light on and discussed a cancelled Dragon Age 2 expansion.
The said Dragon Age 2 expansion which was never realized in order to grant more development time to Dragon Age: Inquisition would have carried Hawke’s storyline forward and ended with Varric’s tragic demise; as reported by Press-Start.
Continuing, Gaider also confirmed that a small amount of content from the said expansion was reworked into Dragon Age: Inquisition, but a large chunk of it had to be cut due to its primary focus on Hawke.segmentnext.com/2016/02/29/biowares-david-gaider-discusses-cancelled-dragon-age-2-expansion/
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Post by Deleted on Jul 20, 2017 23:39:47 GMT
*makes a plan for a new progie...*
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Post by shechinah on Jul 20, 2017 23:42:30 GMT
*makes a plan for a new progie...* I'm already contemplating character designs: I'm thinking albino if possible to contrast with my Inquisitor's design. Here's hoping they'll expand upon Dragon Age Inquisition's character creator. That one's the best Bioware has had, in my opinion, so I'd prefer having more options added onto it than it being replaced but I'm not a developer so I don't know how functional that idea is.
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Post by LordGunSmith90 on Jul 20, 2017 23:46:06 GMT
Thanks for this update!
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Post by Zemgus on Jul 20, 2017 23:57:18 GMT
I've seen this said so many times yet I've never seen any actual evidence of this. In fact I remember one of the devs saying something totally opposite on the old forums. Bioware considering Hawke to be the Inquisitor is nothing more than pure fan speculation as far as I know yet people constantly mention it like it's a fact... A couple of days ago during a Q&A session at GX Australia, BioWare’s former Lead Write David Gaider shed some light on and discussed a cancelled Dragon Age 2 expansion.
The said Dragon Age 2 expansion which was never realized in order to grant more development time to Dragon Age: Inquisition would have carried Hawke’s storyline forward and ended with Varric’s tragic demise; as reported by Press-Start.
Continuing, Gaider also confirmed that a small amount of content from the said expansion was reworked into Dragon Age: Inquisition, but a large chunk of it had to be cut due to its primary focus on Hawke.segmentnext.com/2016/02/29/biowares-david-gaider-discusses-cancelled-dragon-age-2-expansion/This is about the expansion mostly. It doesn't state that Hawke was ever considered to be the protagonist of the next game. Unless I'm missing something (didn't read the article, just the parts you quoted).
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Post by Fen'Harel Faceman on Jul 21, 2017 0:01:15 GMT
A couple of days ago during a Q&A session at GX Australia, BioWare’s former Lead Write David Gaider shed some light on and discussed a cancelled Dragon Age 2 expansion.
The said Dragon Age 2 expansion which was never realized in order to grant more development time to Dragon Age: Inquisition would have carried Hawke’s storyline forward and ended with Varric’s tragic demise; as reported by Press-Start.
Continuing, Gaider also confirmed that a small amount of content from the said expansion was reworked into Dragon Age: Inquisition, but a large chunk of it had to be cut due to its primary focus on Hawke.segmentnext.com/2016/02/29/biowares-david-gaider-discusses-cancelled-dragon-age-2-expansion/ This is about the expansion mostly. It doesn't state that Hawke was ever considered to be the protagonist of the next game. Unless I'm missing something (didn't read the article, just the parts you quoted). They took the expansion and worked it into Inquisition. So yes, Hawke (who was supposed to be captured by the Inquisition at the end of the expansion) was originally part of the story. I'm not sure why you're having such a hard time believing this, it's obvious Hawke's role was re-worked then removed in this process.
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Post by mmoblitz on Jul 21, 2017 2:34:56 GMT
Can't believe they are actually throwing away the Inquisitor just to follow their stupid rule about a new protagonist every game. It is such a waste of a good story. I speculate that they may be trying to stay away from another Cmdr Shepard situation. But, they did think seriously about the Quizzy being Hawke at one time, so maybe they'll revisit this idea... I would love to see Hawk and crew in DA4. They have been my favorites of all the DA games.
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Post by Zemgus on Jul 21, 2017 9:33:14 GMT
This is about the expansion mostly. It doesn't state that Hawke was ever considered to be the protagonist of the next game. Unless I'm missing something (didn't read the article, just the parts you quoted). They took the expansion and worked it into Inquisition. So yes, Hawke (who was supposed to be captured by the Inquisition at the end of the expansion) was originally part of the story. I'm not sure why you're having such a hard time believing this, it's obvious Hawke's role was re-worked then removed in this process. Having a larger role is not the same as a returning protagonist (which people claim Hawke was meant to be). Saying Hawke was supposed to be the Inquisitor like it's a fact is misleading.
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Post by tacsear on Jul 21, 2017 9:47:23 GMT
I speculate that they may be trying to stay away from another Cmdr Shepard situation. But, they did think seriously about the Quizzy being Hawke at one time, so maybe they'll revisit this idea... I would love to see Hawk and crew in DA4. They have been my favorites of all the DA games. I like them to but I don't want them returning. Just like I don't want the Warden to return. their time is over I wouldn't want the inquisitor to return as well but that seems highly unlikely
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Post by Sah291 on Jul 21, 2017 14:27:45 GMT
Can't believe they are actually throwing away the Inquisitor just to follow their stupid rule about a new protagonist every game. It is such a waste of a good story. Agreed. But, so far that's still only speculation. They really haven't said anything new hinting one way or the other since those development slides we've all already seen about Trespasser where they mentioned "tying off" the Inquisitor's story. Even if they opt for a new main protagonist, with an Inquisitor cameo, it's still possible they could experiment with making them playable for a mission, we don't know. Not saying it's likely, but until they rule it out, I'll wait and see.
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