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Post by hammerstorm on Jul 22, 2017 19:08:52 GMT
The scouts vs the salarians are hard in a metagame sense, but not otherwise. A thing I found weird is that people weight the Scouts vs the salarian pathfinder. I never thought that way. I weight the scouts vs the civilian salarians, the pathfinder is a bonus I enjoy but I have a hard time justify chosen people that have volunteered to active duty (the scouts) against civilians that has been kidnapped without any chance of resistance. That said I have done both, but I can't really see a good reason morally to chose the scouts.
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Post by Monica21 on Jul 22, 2017 19:10:46 GMT
I think the hardest, and the one I tend to go back and forth on, is what to do with the Angaran AI. I don't consider AI to be property I can do what I want with, but I don't want it on my damn ship. Is she crazy or manipulative? Is she gonna corrupt SAM further down the line or will they live happily ever after and make AI babies? It's one of those thing where, if it has a consequence further down the line, I'm gonna have to metagame. That doesn't mean I'll pick the "best" outcome though. The Salarian Pathfinder/Krogan Scout thing was hard at first but I always pick the scouts. The Pathfinder took herself into danger, knew the risks, and tried to emotionally blackmail my Ryder. I can't choose to save a single pathfinder over multiple Krogan, esp when it's a situation she walked into. You know what? I was trying to think of which one it was, but it's this one. It feels a lot like Wrex on Virmire and how the genophage solution works out. No matter which choice you make, nothing works out perfectly.
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Post by MarilynRobert on Jul 22, 2017 19:30:25 GMT
First time I didn't blow up the Kett facility, in hopes that Angara could be saved but in later games I blew it up because I have a feeling that is the decision that saves more lives in the long run. Still, I don't like blowing up the facility and may not do it in the future. Also, I really struggle with the Sloane/Reyes decision. First time I warned Sloane and shot at Reyes but since then I've let the sniper shoot Sloane. In the future though, I think I'll always warn Sloane because I don't think that Reyes is any better than Sloane and I don't feel right allowing his sniper plan to go through. Also I feel guilty that I've helped Reyes just because he's cute.
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Post by KaiserShep on Jul 22, 2017 19:32:36 GMT
The scouts vs the salarians are hard in a metagame sense, but not otherwise. A thing I found weird is that people weight the Scouts vs the salarian pathfinder. I never thought that way. I weight the scouts vs the civilian salarians, the pathfinder is a bonus I enjoy but I have a hard time justify chosen people that have volunteered to active duty (the scouts) against civilians that has been kidnapped without any chance of resistance. That said I have done both, but I can't really see a good reason morally to chose the scouts. I didn't want the kett to have krogan-based kett monsters, and then it turned out that leaving them behind results in berserkers fighting you in the endgame. Anyway, in terms of most difficult decision, I'm having trouble really coming up with something that I found really difficult. Blowing up the kett exaltation facility was pretty much a no-brainer, rando angarans be damned, and letting Sloane die was only difficult insofar that it was difficult to get over the fact that I couldn't shoot her myself, though having that choice was very entertaining. Surprisingly, choosing whether or not Kalinda dies actually made me pause a moment, because she was so pitiful right there that shooting her to make her fall just seemed a bit much. Of course I did it, but I did feel slightly uneasy about it XD
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Post by themikefest on Jul 22, 2017 21:15:07 GMT
I didn't want the kett to have krogan-based kett monsters, and then it turned out that leaving them behind results in berserkers fighting you in the endgame. The only time I chose the krogan was when I did my speedruns
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Post by jaegerbane on Jul 22, 2017 21:24:30 GMT
For me it was the Salarians or the Krogan. I love the Salarians. They are probably my favorite ME species. But for Ryder to assume that the chosen Pathfinder was the only good candidate would be... hypocritical? Kind of. Plus tactically saving the Krogan gets good will with other Krogan and a lack of the Exalted Krogan, so that's nice. That. I really did have to think about that one. I'm running a completionist campaign at the moment and the angaran AI also caught me off-guard (didn't do it on my first run). Still not sure I made the right decision (went with it's wishes and sent it to SAM node). I was a bit pissed off with the Angara's attitude too - never mind the fact that I've basically just did the entire Resistance's job for them and wiped out most of the kett on Voeld, I've found an old old relic that happens to be self-aware and obeyed it's wishes so basically I'm just kett. Honestly, fuck that guy. And fuck Maariko too, with his stupid satellites.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 22, 2017 21:26:21 GMT
For me it was the Salarians or the Krogan. I love the Salarians. They are probably my favorite ME species. But for Ryder to assume that the chosen Pathfinder was the only good candidate would be... hypocritical? Kind of. Plus tactically saving the Krogan gets good will with other Krogan and a lack of the Exalted Krogan, so that's nice. That. I really did have to think about that one. I'm running a completionist campaign at the moment and the angaran AI also caught me off-guard (didn't do it on my first run). Still not sure I made the right decision (went with it's wishes and sent it to SAM node). I was a bit pissed off with the Angara's attitude too - never mind the fact that I've basically just did the entire Resistance's job for them and wiped out most of the kett on Voeld, I've found an old old relic that happens to be self-aware and obeyed it's wishes so basically I'm just kett. Honestly, fuck that guy. And fuck Maariko too, with his stupid satellites. I made a selfish decision about the AI... I did not want that crazy bitch having access to my sam and, indirectly, a path into my head. I sent her to the angara and smiled profusely when Evfra complained to me about her.
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Post by jaegerbane on Jul 22, 2017 21:31:24 GMT
I made a selfish decision about the AI... I did not want that crazy bitch having access to my sam and, indirectly, a path into my head. I sent her to the angara and smiled profusely when Evfra complained to me about her. That part I trusted SAM with. The guy's a bit of a hacking virtuoso, he knows full well what she's like, he's handled offensive hacks on his core before and she's basically been stuck in an igloo for centuries. I fully expect if she's going to be clever that SAM won't only be able to handle it, he'll have me informed the second it blows up. We didn't really find out what the circumstances of her creation were, but she didn't seem to be inherently malevolent.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 22, 2017 21:37:01 GMT
I made a selfish decision about the AI... I did not want that crazy bitch having access to my sam and, indirectly, a path into my head. I sent her to the angara and smiled profusely when Evfra complained to me about her. That part I trusted SAM with. The guy's a bit of a hacking virtuoso, he knows full well what she's like, he's handled offensive hacks on his core before and she's basically been stuck in an igloo for centuries. I fully expect if she's going to be clever that SAM won't only be able to handle it, he'll have me informed the second it blows up. We didn't really find out what the circumstances of her creation were, but she didn't seem to be inherently malevolent. I was playing my Ryder in such a way that his trust of SAM really only went so far... he had lingering concerns about AI that were exacerbated by his dad's actions. He wasn't all too happy about making the trip, but his life and career in the Alliance had been essentially ruined by his dad's research. He didn't really fully trust SAM until "dying" on the Salarian ark; whereas, I did the Voeld AI quest much, much earlier in the game. It's one reason why I really like this game... the criteria for making these decisions can change quite a bit - even depending on something as simple as what order you happen to do the quests in. The tougher decision for me during the AI quest was whether to just kill her and save the angaran fighter or keep her alive for the potential extra intel... "I chose the intel."
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Post by Deleted on Jul 22, 2017 21:42:48 GMT
Ugh - this is tough. The decisions themselves are difficult, as is trying to decide which was the most difficult.
This is largely due to Ryder's youth and inexperience. Ryder is not the seasoned, veteran military officer accustomed to making the hard choices that Shepard was, nor the young noble groomed for authority and leadership that my Cousland warden was, nor the seasoned mercenary band leader that my qunari Inquisitor was. Ryder was a rather unique, and very interesting, challenge for me to play.
All that said, I'm gonna go with the political appointment at the end.
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Post by haolyn on Jul 22, 2017 21:49:51 GMT
Whether to lie to my brother when he's in a coma about Alec being dead.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 22, 2017 21:52:50 GMT
Whether to lie to my brother when he's in a coma about Alec being dead. Yeah, that was a tough one (only it was Sara who was in a coma for me). I played it through again because the first time I told the truth on both counts and just couldn't deal with darn near killing her with the news. On the second try, I told her the truth about dad but lied about finding a home... and that seemed to work out OK.
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Post by LilTIM on Jul 22, 2017 22:14:26 GMT
Believe it or not, the hardest choice for me was to either expose the asari pathfinder or hide the dirty secret, i thought about that one a good deal. Also letting Sloane die, because it was timed, and i have a good deal of respect for her character (the ingame one, not the book version).
I can't remember any other, most choices are quite straightforward for me.
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Post by sjsharp2010 on Jul 22, 2017 22:23:17 GMT
For me deciding between the Salarians and the Krogan was the toughest. The Krogan can kick some serious ass and having them on your side could turn out to be a good thing with the threat of the Kett hanging over Heleus. The salarian pathfinder is tough considering that every ark has lost theirs by the time you find them it's hard to see that one purposely end up dead and get sacrificed like all the others.
What I mean by the fact that every pathfinder get sacrificed I mean obviously your father on Habitat 7. Something happens to Macen on the Turian Ark leading to Avitus having to take over and on the Asari ark Isharra being killed because her second Sederis didn't back her up and then Sederis gets relieved of duty as well. So in reality Pathfinder Reaka is the only one you can save.
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Post by LogicGunn on Jul 22, 2017 22:25:07 GMT
I think the hardest, and the one I tend to go back and forth on, is what to do with the Angaran AI. I don't consider AI to be property I can do what I want with, but I don't want it on my damn ship. Is she crazy or manipulative? Is she gonna corrupt SAM further down the line or will they live happily ever after and make AI babies? It's one of those thing where, if it has a consequence further down the line, I'm gonna have to metagame. That doesn't mean I'll pick the "best" outcome though. The Salarian Pathfinder/Krogan Scout thing was hard at first but I always pick the scouts. The Pathfinder took herself into danger, knew the risks, and tried to emotionally blackmail my Ryder. I can't choose to save a single pathfinder over multiple Krogan, esp when it's a situation she walked into. Even though I agree that she is an idiot for putting herself in that position, she went back to rescue more of her people. It's not just her you're rescuing. I thought she stumbled on them? Either way, I'm there to rescue a whole ark of Salarians. I'm not going after a few more because the Salarian pathfinder got emotional. There are few enough Krogan in Andromeda as it is.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 22, 2017 22:37:06 GMT
Even though I agree that she is an idiot for putting herself in that position, she went back to rescue more of her people. It's not just her you're rescuing. I thought she stumbled on them? Either way, I'm there to rescue a whole ark of Salarians. I'm not going after a few more because the Salarian pathfinder got emotional. There are few enough Krogan in Andromeda as it is. The comparative numbers of each species is a big concern. Some of it would depend on whether or not one believes the improved viability for reproducing among the krogan is enough for them to "catch up" quickly with the salairan numbers. One should perhaps also consider the differences in life span. In the end, I made my choice based on which would "hurt" the kett effort more. They seemed to be much closer to "kettifying" the krogan than they were to figuring out how to exalt the salarians. Therefore, taking away their krogan subjects makes more sense to me. The thing that gave me further pause, though was possibly leaving them with a SAM implant they could figure out... and feeling a little vulnerable after having been probed by the Archon.
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Post by maximusarael020 on Jul 23, 2017 1:48:55 GMT
Hey, here's a question. The AI on Voeld. Who brought it to the Hyperion, and who gave it to the Angara? And what happens differently between those choices?
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Post by colfoley on Jul 23, 2017 1:53:49 GMT
Hey, here's a question. The AI on Voeld. Who brought it to the Hyperion, and who gave it to the Angara? And what happens differently between those choices? I put it on the Hyperion, it basically flushes about of supply crates out the airlock, causes a bunch of other issues, gets Kesh mad at you, and every time you visit it usually is talking to SAM and you can ask it more questions.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 23, 2017 2:16:20 GMT
Hey, here's a question. The AI on Voeld. Who brought it to the Hyperion, and who gave it to the Angara? And what happens differently between those choices? I gave it to the angara. All I detected was Evfra complaining about you giving them a crazy suicidal AI that he wasn't really able to communicate with. It's located in the Resistance HQ and if you talk to it, it tells you how miserable it is and says that it hopes you die.
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Post by rma2110 on Jul 23, 2017 2:37:21 GMT
I destroyed the AI. I couldn't stand by and watch it kill that Angraran. What surprised was that even PeeBee told me I did good because that think creeped her out. I thought PeeBee would be mad about the lost data.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 23, 2017 2:47:33 GMT
I destroyed the AI. I couldn't stand by and watch it kill that Angraran. What surprised was that even PeeBee told me I did good because that think creeped her out. I thought PeeBee would be mad about the lost data. I'll probably go this route in my NG+ playthrough... although I'm sort of tempted to see what it's like to get Kesh mad at me (per maximusarael020)... decisions, decisions.
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Post by MarilynRobert on Jul 23, 2017 4:54:54 GMT
For me it was the Salarians or the Krogan. I love the Salarians. They are probably my favorite ME species. But for Ryder to assume that the chosen Pathfinder was the only good candidate would be... hypocritical? Kind of. Plus tactically saving the Krogan gets good will with other Krogan and a lack of the Exalted Krogan, so that's nice. That. I really did have to think about that one. I'm running a completionist campaign at the moment and the angaran AI also caught me off-guard (didn't do it on my first run). Still not sure I made the right decision (went with it's wishes and sent it to SAM node). I was a bit pissed off with the Angara's attitude too - never mind the fact that I've basically just did the entire Resistance's job for them and wiped out most of the kett on Voeld, I've found an old old relic that happens to be self-aware and obeyed it's wishes so basically I'm just kett. Honestly, fuck that guy. And fuck Maariko too, with his stupid satellites.I wish I could lie, even if it's just in a game. I always tell Maariko the truth even though I'd like to get whatever he gives you if you lie to him. Just can't do it...it's like I think the whole world will implode if I lie to that guy. Another thing I can't do is I can't allow that weird AI to kill the Angara scientist so the only way I get to see the other options is to watch youtube.
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Post by warrior on Jul 23, 2017 6:37:46 GMT
Oh, definitely krogans vs salarians. It's one of the few choices in the game that really had me pondering for a few minutes. I ended up going for the krogans (which surprised even me, I didn't much care about them in the OT). Although, indeed, who to romance wasn't the easiest decision either. I had decided on Jaal, but I wasn't really liking his romance. Then I met Reyes sadly, I was too far into the Jaal romance at that point (I went to Kadara really late in the game). But I'm on my second playthrouh right now, we'll see what happens Ok, so what's the Reyes draw? He was fun, until I found out he had been lying to me the whole time! Then I was so mad, I sided with Sloane the whole way against him. But some people like BioFan (YouTuber) just went nuts for the guy. I mean, he's pretty clever, but betrayal! I liked him more when I found out he was lying to me. and also when I saw that he had a torture chamber. When he shot Sloane I was like, This is the best BioWare romance option for a straight fem pc ever.
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Post by warrior on Jul 23, 2017 6:44:52 GMT
Hey, here's a question. The AI on Voeld. Who brought it to the Hyperion, and who gave it to the Angara? And what happens differently between those choices? I gave it to the angara. All I detected was Evfra complaining about you giving them a crazy suicidal AI that he wasn't really able to communicate with. It's located in the Resistance HQ and if you talk to it, it tells you how miserable it is and says that it hopes you die. Haha I forgot about that part. Ryder casually walks up all "nice to see you!" and the thing is just like "I hope you die." I lol'd. If there's a next game, this is one of the decisions I'm more interested in seeing the consequences of.
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Post by vonuber on Jul 23, 2017 8:06:25 GMT
Eat shit and die / fuck you.
Oh, wrong game - have to be the AI i think, although the Asari pathfinder is another interesting one.
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