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Post by n7vorcha on Jul 26, 2017 18:35:38 GMT
Which is better?
I used to see a lot of people claiming the Human was better, but that may have been before patches, I'm not sure.
These tier lists people are creating keep putting them into separate categories despite the fact they are so similar. To me the main differences seem to be that the Asari has faster recharge speeds and the human is the tiniest bit more robust.
Barricade and the Aegis essentially serve the same purpose (however Barricade is great at rank 6 and Aegis kind of sucks regardless).
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Post by taimaxsk on Jul 26, 2017 18:47:12 GMT
It comes down to play style for me because the asari sentinel is much better at run 'n gun. The human sentinel is better at CC because barricade can stymie the enemies, plus with passive weapon bonuses he can squeeze out a bit more damage. They are both awesome and are good choices, but I certainly have more fun with the asari. She's just not as campy as the human and the aegis shield is more responsive than barricade. I've had plenty of instances where I was unable to place a barricade because an enemy or teammate was too close. Aegis doesn't have that issue. The trade-off is that the barricade can absorb all damage aimed at it, unlike aegis, so you've got to aware of your situation before engaging with the asari.
I like both classes but if I had to pick a best choice, I'd go with the asari sentinel if we're strictly speaking in terms of fun and preference. The human can be a tank though and offers better CC, so if a team needs those qualities more than the mobile objective/docwagon asari I go that route.
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Post by Schreiner on Jul 26, 2017 18:49:06 GMT
the human sentinel has the weapon training passive, which allows him to get a whopping 28% static weapon damage from just the passive. i find that building the hsent for power damage makes little sense as throw doesn't deal damage on its own and energy drain isn't really a high damage ability. overall, the human sentinel feels primarily like a weapons platform class supplemented by abilities for utility.
on the other hand, the asari sentinel gets the offensive biotics passive, which doesn't do a whole lot for weapon damage, but allows some really cool synergy with backlash and throw (e.g. backlash for a split second to proc biotic warrior). backlash can also trivialize a lot of the most annoying enemy abilities on plat, like flak cannon and ascendant spirit bombs.
as for which one is better... honestly i don't know. i personally prefer the human sentinel just because i generally like relying on weapons more than niche powers.
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Post by JRandall0308 on Jul 26, 2017 18:50:22 GMT
Barricade is less glitchy than Backlash, overall. Both powers don't work 100% reliably but I'd say Barricades get deployed 80% of the time I ask it, and Backlash works about 50% of the time (the other 50% it briefly flickers into existence and then drops, or simply fails to block damage).
Barricade Electric Defense is amazingly fun against dogs and KroBros, which is slightly more fun than Backlashing Observers and Anointed.
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Post by gethadept on Jul 26, 2017 18:51:30 GMT
I think for Platinum, Human Sentinel is better.
Just because Barricade is nearly indestructible and become effective 5th player during objectives.
For Gold.. they both own.
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Post by n7vorcha on Jul 26, 2017 18:55:36 GMT
Barricade is less glitchy than Backlash, overall. Both powers don't work 100% reliably but I'd say Barricades get deployed 80% of the time I ask it, and Backlash works about 50% of the time (the other 50% it briefly flickers into existence and then drops, or simply fails to block damage). Barricade Electric Defense is amazingly fun against dogs and KroBros, which is slightly more fun than Backlashing Observers and Anointed. Winner: Human Sentinel. My god Backlash is so annoying when it does that Edit: I forgot what the power was called but somehow remembered the word Aegis
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Post by gethadept on Jul 26, 2017 18:58:06 GMT
Barricade is less glitchy than Backlash, overall. Both powers don't work 100% reliably but I'd say Barricades get deployed 80% of the time I ask it, and Backlash works about 50% of the time (the other 50% it briefly flickers into existence and then drops, or simply fails to block damage). Barricade Electric Defense is amazingly fun against dogs and KroBros, which is slightly more fun than Backlashing Observers and Anointed. Winner: Human Sentinel. My god Backlash is so annoying when it does that Edit: I forgot what the power was called but somehow remembered the word Aegis I realize two things mess up backlash usage. Cover ... & reload.... I gotta make sure my character is absolutely clear of those two before I use backlash.
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Post by seductivewizard on Jul 26, 2017 18:59:52 GMT
For Platinum Human Sentinel>>>>>>Asari Sentinel For Gold Human Sentinel == Asari Sentinel
You are not required to camp with barricade, as most folks repeatedly tend to suggest (facepalm), if you're an aggressive player. You can run/evade over to a mob, set barricade down, cause a rank 6 group stun and start the fireworks. You don't set a barricade down and wait for them to come to you. You take the barricade to them. The barricade is safer, versatile, offers group bonuses, helps with revives, and is very good for objectives (block off door during hack, blockade while picking up a device, etc). The Asari is fun to play for sure, but the human is a platinum workhorse.
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Post by taimaxsk on Jul 26, 2017 18:59:56 GMT
Huh, now that's odd. I rarely experience backlash failures, no way my experience is close to 50% fails. Damn netcode.
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Post by JRandall0308 on Jul 26, 2017 19:00:09 GMT
Silly gethadept don't you know we have jetpacks now? That makes both cover and reloading obsolete! You are not a real MEAMPer unless you avoid cover and use a Remnant weapon (reload-less).
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Post by JRandall0308 on Jul 26, 2017 19:00:45 GMT
Huh, now that's odd. I rarely experience backlash failures, no way my experience is close to 50% fails. Damn netcode. It's probably not really 50%, but it is enough that it makes me unable to rely on Backlash.
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Post by taimaxsk on Jul 26, 2017 19:05:31 GMT
Okay, but that's still odd. I find barricade more faulty than backlash and your experience is the opposite.
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Post by n7vorcha on Jul 26, 2017 19:09:49 GMT
Huh, now that's odd. I rarely experience backlash failures, no way my experience is close to 50% fails. Damn netcode. It's probably not really 50%, but it is enough that it makes me unable to rely on Backlash. I would say around 20% of the time. The power itself can actually be pretty badass in certain situations, but I've found the area between where the enemy shoots you or shoots your Backlash is really hard to anticipate if that makes sense.
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Post by inert on Jul 26, 2017 19:16:34 GMT
Weapon Damage - HSent Power Damage - ASent
Unless it's flak cannon/grenades, Plat doesn't care about your power damage.
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Post by Kenny Bania on Jul 26, 2017 19:44:52 GMT
Huh, now that's odd. I rarely experience backlash failures, no way my experience is close to 50% fails. Damn netcode. I never experienced a single issue with Backlash either, and I played the shit out of her. Oh, she's far superior also.
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Post by gnperdue on Jul 26, 2017 19:48:20 GMT
I thought Backlash was lame at first, but actually it is awesome. It offers fantastic opportunities for style points, and it is a decent panic button. It is also pretty good with just 1 point, although obviously it can do some cool things with more points.
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Post by Gya on Jul 26, 2017 23:59:42 GMT
Personally I like them both. AsSent has great mobility and faster combos, human female sentinel is bae and barricade is great for trolling enemies and allies alike. The male human sentipede has the face of a thousand nightmares.
That said, this probably won't trigger people enough, so my final answer is "whichever one you prefer sucks fiend ass and so do you fite me irl".
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Post by t41rdeye on Jul 27, 2017 4:06:22 GMT
Personally, I find the human a bit on the boring side. The Asari is one of my favorite classes, mainly because of backlash.
Some tips that might help get the most out of it:
1. Use a recharging weapon. This eliminates the problem of not being able to reload with the aegis up.
2. Prioritize observers and annointed. They will suicide themselves pretty reliably. Aim your reticle at whatever you want to kill. Shenanigans like killing dogs with observer lasers will ensue.
3. With enough practice you should never let break, the stagger can be a death sentence. If it turns red drop it immediately.
4. Seek out ascendants. There's nothing quite as satisfying as reflecting their energy ball. Don't hold it up, time it a split second before it reaches you. I've managed to reflect 2 separate balls in one cast before, and even one-hit kill them under the right circumstances. Bonus points for catching enemy bystanders with the reflection. Platinum damage values of the ball will wreck humanoid enemies.
5. When under heavy fire/about to die, cast it and jump-jet to safety keeping the aegis directed at the incoming fire. Buys precious time for powers/shields to recharge and might save your life. You can also hover with it, I don't think many people realize that.
I like the human too, but I play her more as a weapons platform with shock barricade and team drain for support, throw being the dump stat. The Asari I spec duration on throw and priming drain so I can setup my own biotic and tech combos whenever I please. So much fun
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Post by dariat on Jul 27, 2017 8:40:57 GMT
HSent has good damage resistance, high weapon boost and priming Barricade. In my view HSent > AsSent Oh, she's far superior also.
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Post by Pounce de León on Jul 27, 2017 9:00:13 GMT
Completely different playstyle. But with the current Benny Hill show the human is a good pick for map control.
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Post by thelostturian on Jul 27, 2017 9:01:10 GMT
Both are very good on gold and fun.
I would chose the HSent on plat without hesitation. Barricade offers more utility and team support. You can block chokepoints, damage, dogs, you can prime enemies with it and it also gives 15% weapon damage and accuracy boost on top of the massive weapon passives of the HSent.
On top of this your allies using your barricade also receive these weapon bonuses. So for example a Hsol or Tsol with turbocharge getting an additional 15% damage and accuracy bonus. Not bad, not bad. Yesterday I had a game just like this: a Hsol sitting with me, he topscored easily.
On top of this allies sitting with you benefit from your team support specced ED as well.
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Post by Kenny Bania on Jul 27, 2017 10:38:49 GMT
HSent has good damage resistance, high weapon boost and priming Barricade. In my view HSent > AsSent Oh, she's far superior also. Gonna cry again, and began new to leave the site?
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Post by N7Mith on Jul 27, 2017 11:55:51 GMT
Barricade is less glitchy than Backlash, overall. Both powers don't work 100% reliably but I'd say Barricades get deployed 80% of the time I ask it, and Backlash works about 50% of the time (the other 50% it briefly flickers into existence and then drops, or simply fails to block damage). Barricade Electric Defense is amazingly fun against dogs and KroBros, which is slightly more fun than Backlashing Observers and Anointed. Winner: Human Sentinel. Honestly I don't see much difference in that regard. Depends on the playstyle I guess. For me the winner is Asent, no doubt in my mind. I hate the clunkyness of barricade, it disappearing when still active, it slowing you down for the 1 sec animation. And I love killing enemies with Nuffler shots, Ascended orbs and Observer lasers.
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Post by brannigans1ove on Jul 27, 2017 12:44:03 GMT
I prefer the Asari Sentinel, mostly playing as a tech combo build with energy drain & throw, occasional situational use of backlash. Maybe I built my human sentinel poorly, but I find him underwhelming. Maybe I'll try a different build with the female sentinel.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 27, 2017 12:48:33 GMT
I've tried the Asari and ability wise she looks great. As in those "style points". I really like the barricade very much, but the art of its placement is a touch finikie. My only problem with Asari Sentinel is like with all Asari, is that you have to play an Asari.... wish they gave that set of abilities to a Quarian or Angara.
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