is it just me or is bann teagen an ungrateful or forgetful SOB. I mean seriously.

Yes, and also no.

Yes, from the viewpoint of my Inquisitors, Bann Teagan is an ass.

But from Bann Teagan's viewpoint, he's got a foreign military occupying land that belongs to Ferelden (or is close to Ferelden, I guess), and this foreign military has become one of the most powerful in the known world in the space of just a few years. Ferelden already has Orlais to worry about, and now they've also got this upstart, but very powerful, Inquisition that could become a very dangerous enemy. If I were him, I'd be afraid, too.

He's a politician. A shitty, hamfisted, lippy politician who got lucky the events of Trespasser supported his agenda but still.

The crown gave him an agenda to push - get the Inquisition off their land - and he pushed for it. I'm not sure if some of the things he says are even his personal opinions since he complains no matter what you do.

In complete contrast, he sounds nice enough here. He allows the Inquisition to send a champion to fight for a bannorn. Tell us how you REALLY feel, Teagan.

Teagan doesn't matter. He's just the face of the Ferelden opinion. I used to dislike him but that's my new opinion after pondering on things. The entire point of Trespasser was to remove the Inquisitor as a protagonist and the Inquisition from power. No sense getting upset at what amounts to a position anyone from Ferelden could serve for that narrative.

His criticisms of the Inquisition as a whole are valid, but the specific points he brings up at the Exalted Council are not well thought out. The Inquisition seized the keep in Crestwood from bandits, and the Inquisitor is rightly given the opportunity to snark that they could just give it back if that would make Teagan happy. Bringing up the Ferelden history of the Grey Wardens in world states where the King (and possibly Princess-Consort!) ARE Wardens is just dumb.

I don't disagree with his fundamental objection to the unaligned military power on Ferelden's doorstep, but they should have given him better arguments.

Tegan's concerns are legitimate however i do believe that due to his hostile mood he wasn't able to articulate in a good manner his points and that's why he may sound a little bit ridiculous in the council.
He was sent apprently by the monarch/s of Ferelden (Anora and the prince in my case) to dismantle somehow the Inquisition so in my case he was just doing what Anora and my warden told him to do and he did a pretty good job because now the Inquisition (which is still powerful )in my case is in the hand of the Divine whom is a LI of the warden so the Inquisition passed from the hands of the Inquisitor to the one of the Divine and the HoF rather than being controlled by Orlais.

Teagan is an ass and so is whoever sent him.

They may be worried about the Inquisition, they may not approve of Inquisition forces squatting on their beautiful keep, but you know what... they could have asked. Asked for the Inquisition to hand back the keep. Asked them to move the bulk of their forces somewhere else. Asked them to sign a non-aggression pact. But nooo, he went with the full nine yards right away - the Inquisition needs to go! That is an act of ingratitude and barely veiled hostility.

Plus, a neutral force between Ferelden and Orlais right in the middle of the mountains - where no farmland or some such is lost - might actually be a good thing.

But the real reason is likely that BioWare wanted to end the Inquisition and this was the best they could come up with.

Teagan is worried because Orlais seeks to have political influence over the Inquisition. That would put Ferelden in an uncomfortable position. Especially since the Inquisition's troops are still occupying the Bannorn.

Also, don't forget: the Inquisition decides the future of the Orlesian Empire. An institution with such massive political and military power with the liberty of invading countries right, left and center to "chase down wicked Magisters from ancient Tevinter resurrected from the grave" is worrisome, to say the least. This opens up a dangerous precedent: any weird world-threatening event serves as justification for the Inquisition to launch an invasion in the future.

So Ferelden is asking to know where the Inquisition stands when it comes to respecting national borders. That's pretty much it. It's a legitimate request.

I don't think that was Teagan. I think either Teagan is dead/being held prisoner and that was an imposter or Teagan has had blood magic used on him to alter his personality.I think it happened back in RedCliff when the Venatori took over and I think getting Allister/Anora to RedCliff was going to be an assassination attempt but the Inquisition spoiled that plot so now Fake Teagan is on a mission to take down the Inquisition because the Inquisition is too good/efficient at what it does.

Wouldn't surprise me either! LOL Also...I'm not the only one who thinks they're banging behind Eamon's back, am I? I mean...come on...she's just way too possessive over him. I'm at the point were I just let her be sacrificed in the blood ritual. I wish I could do the same for Anora.  

How bout this...you come across a town rafe with walking corpses and bandits, the only other type of law enforcement tells you their boss has other plans for you and they're leaving the townfolk to their own defences...no other help is on the way so you help out the town with bandits and walking dead, complete your mission, and find out the mayor has run off. The town folk are scared and happy to have you stick around and offer them free protection and training until SOMEONE in charge shows up...no one does..instead they run around like effen idiots, throwing accusations and making demands for reimbursement for the group of mages you just took off their hands, you send your troops in to assist their kingto identify assassins, then you send in one of your people to hash out a treaty with there closest rival. You intend to work things out with them but they start throwing more accusations around about you and your people, make no effort to discuss the issue with you, just make effing demands, and then they lead the charge to have your organization get put out of commission.

Wouldn't you find that a bit suspicious and insulting?

I can't be the only one that thinks that Teagan should have died in a Qunari gaatlok suicide bombing.

Actually before DAI Teagan was a damn good diplomat, we see that in DAO in the Red Cliff Chantry, in DA2 when he and Allister show up and in MoA when your talking to at the chateu. He was very friendly, polite and diplomatic. That War room mission we got from him surprised me. He seemed rather pissy and to be honest if was going to be pissy with anyone it should've been Allister for sending the mages to Red Cliff in the first place. We did him a favor by taking them away. It was also odd that on the War table, Allister was the friendlier of the two, Teagan is usually the one to be the more diplomatic, so if Allister is satisfied with the Inquisition, I would figure Teagan would've been too, since he seems to take the lead in situations like that.

That whole situation in Ferelden is odd and I question what's happening there.