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Post by Deleted on Sept 20, 2016 21:58:55 GMT
Not really. If you know a little about history, and if you see what happens around the world nowadays, you'll see that the countries that are fine, or better than others are those who had and built, and have a strong identity, with the strong concept of nation and the strong feeling from the citizen of being a part of a Nation, sharing the same fate with others within the same lands, under the same values, the same rules, the same global ideals, the same government. The big issue in many poor countries of Africa is the lack of strong identity, that's what leads to civil wars like in Rwanda, with obsolete concepts of tribal affiliation, and also corruption in the government and lack of altruism and self sacrifice for your country. What you wouldn't see happen in Great Britain for example. That's why some african countries despite having the resources still struggle to move forward infortunately. With more patriotism in these countries, they would certainly be better to be honest. Nationalism and supremacist feelings are more what i would condemn. It's something else.
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Post by crusty on Sept 20, 2016 22:09:52 GMT
I think people who say 'wew lad' are jackwagons. *edit* let me rephrase: I think 'wew lad' is obnoxious. Wew lad.
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Post by Solas on Sept 20, 2016 22:11:14 GMT
I think people who say 'wew lad' are jackwagons. *edit* let me rephrase: I think 'wew lad' is obnoxious. wew lad e w l a dal wew
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Post by PATPATPATlol on Sept 20, 2016 22:26:50 GMT
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Post by Voxr on Sept 20, 2016 22:32:09 GMT
I think people who say 'wew lad' are jackwagons. *edit* let me rephrase: I think 'wew lad' is obnoxious. L E W W A D E W W A D
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Post by bmwcrazy on Sept 20, 2016 22:37:15 GMT
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Post by ToLazy4Name on Sept 20, 2016 22:38:57 GMT
I consider patriotism and nationalism to be the same thing (by definition they pretty much are), though I admit they tend to carry different connotations. I consider myself very nationalistic.
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Post by Ravenous Bear on Sept 20, 2016 22:49:55 GMT
I find body piercings of any kind to be repulsive and painful. I am also not too keen on tattoos for how painful the procedure is.
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Post by dzejkob on Sept 20, 2016 22:57:20 GMT
I find body piercings of any kind to be repulsive and painful. I am also not too keen on tattoos for how painful the procedure is. i can relate, i don't mind normal ear piercings but when someone has lip piercings etc really puts me off as well as too many tattoos i mean when i see things like this, it makes me sick, or at least gives me cringes..
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Post by The Hype Himself on Sept 20, 2016 23:05:44 GMT
I consider patriotism and nationalism to be the same thing (by definition they pretty much are), though I admit they tend to carry different connotations. I consider myself very nationalistic. There is a discernible difference between patriotism and nationalism; we've discussed that in the political thread. Patriotism is pride in your country. It is not inherently negative, though it can become negative when taken too far. The product of that is nationalism, which is the belief that your nation (be it a country, ethnic group, race, etc.) is inherently superior to others. The extreme forms of nationalism are xenophobia and racism, which are the outright fear and contempt for others different from you and your country, and imperialism and expansionism, in which you believe that your country/nation/etc. should expand into, subjugate, annex, or conquer others. Patriotism -> Nationalism -> Xenophobia/racism/imperialism/expansionism.
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Post by mattig89ch on Sept 20, 2016 23:09:16 GMT
I don't see the point of either, if I'm honest. My little sister had 2 tattoos, and every time I ask why, its like she's speaking Greek with her answers. "they make me stand out" or "they make me an individual" or even "because I like them". To me these make no sense at all. Why would you like tattoos? And how could they make you more of an individual then you already are?
All that said, it comes down to one thing. Its your body, not mine. Do what you like.
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Post by The Hype Himself on Sept 20, 2016 23:27:40 GMT
I'm in that boat too; tattoo's are a deal breaker for me, hundred percent. I don't think less of a person for having them, but I find myself unable to find them attractive in any way, and indeed get repelled by them. It doesn't matter the meaning or position or why a girl has them; I agree entirely with a person who does something for a deeper personal reason, and that their tattoo means something for them. But that precludes any possible romantic interest I would have in them either. I'll be their friend, and I'll never think less of them, but it's what I am there. I don't ask about the tats of course. I'm simply not interested in their story for them. It's their business.
In some ways, it's been difficult for me; I had a girl I got along great with, and as we were making out, really about to go all the way, I noticed her tat (which before that, I had not known about.) It killed it for me; I had to make an excuse to leave. She was upset and confused (probably rightfully); I feel bad for letting her get that close, but really, what else was I supposed to do? I remember mentioning this experience once before on the old BSN and catching some hell for it, and I still don't really understand why.
Events like that, and differing attitudes and opinions on a great deal many things, as well as my many hang-ups and flaws are what really lead me to conclude that I'm just not compatible with people in a sense such as romance. I prefer it that way - it's somewhat enticing knowing that I'm alone in the world and that there is no fit for me. Show me a match for me, and I'll show you a target marker.
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Post by Nayawk on Sept 20, 2016 23:45:09 GMT
I view tattoos sort of like permanent jewellery, and like jewellery there is lots of various reasons to have them. Wedding rings, grandmas necklace etc are important pieces that mean something and talk about who you are, tattoos can also serve a similar purpose. At the other end of the scale we have crappy plastic earrings in bright blue that are just for fun, tattoos can be a nod to that also.
The point I guess is that in the end the tattoos are for their benefit not the viewers, to serve as a reminder, to make them smile, to make a commitment to something or to cheer them up on a wet grey day.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 20, 2016 23:46:15 GMT
Not really my definition of Patriotism; Being pride isn't the core of what it is. Being willing to do things to improve things in your country regardless of your own interests and without thinking about it, being wiling to do public services, is being a patriot at its core. Any guy who wishs to enter into politics because he dreams to make his country better, to do great things for his people is automatically a patriot for example. You have common people ( most of them ) who don't care about that, who just care about themself and who just want to live their own life. How many heroes in each country in history because of that kind of feelings ? It's altruistic, it's absolutely positive. More people like that in Africa would certainly mean less corruption in the governments for example, and more people caring about their people and the advancement of their country. Things would be better. But as long as the governments will mostly count corrupt and selfish people who only care about their family, no big improvements, all the money stolen wasted.
On the opposite, for nationalism. it doesn't necessarily mean that you want to subjuguate other people. There are plenty of nationalists iwho don't want to annex another country, who are pacifists. They just don't want to hear anything that they feel is foreign to their identity and culture. No more EU, no more immigrants, no more tolerance to different cultures in the same society, more protectionism against foreign products, etc. They are focused on identity in an antagonistic way. It's negative, and that's why it's not the same.
A patriot is open minded, just willing to make things better, being willing to sacrifice himself for his country, caring and being passionate about the fate of his country, while the nationalist, in addition to these things, fears what he doesn't feel a part of his identity and rejects anything that is foreign and considers it as a threat. His point of view is antagonistic.
Most socialists politicians in my country are as liberal as patriots. But never one of them would call themself " nationalists ", especially when they reject so much what it implies.
I'm not really seeing what is so complicate to understand.
But to remain on topic, I think the marvel serie tvs and movies are overrated. they are spreading in the media and it annoys me.
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Post by mrsanomaly on Sept 20, 2016 23:55:52 GMT
I think a lot of anime characters look super creepy.
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Post by mrsanomaly on Sept 21, 2016 0:01:31 GMT
I don't see the point of either, if I'm honest. My little sister had 2 tattoos, and every time I ask why, its like she's speaking Greek with her answers. "they make me stand out" or "they make me an individual" or even "because I like them". To me these make no sense at all. Why would you like tattoos? And how could they make you more of an individual then you already are? All that said, it comes down to one thing. Its your body, not mine. Do what you like. LOL this cracks me up because my beloved baby brother is covered in high quality ink from his neck down to his toes. (he is a charming handsome bastard and was able to trade with some fantastic ink artists). I just told him multiple times (since he started when he was 18) that while he might find all arguments that tattoos look horrible on the 80 year old physique to be completely irrelevant as it pertains to his path to body of ink glory- that he cannot deny that his attitudes/personality/preferences will alter over the spans of decades that he will hopefully live. We all do not like the same music or foods or just the SAME precise things our entire lives do we? As a 41 year old: I'm going to laugh my ass off if I hear of the regret a few decades in the future from all of the people completely covered like my brother. I can only imagine that my children now (aged 15-2) will go the opposite direction as the multitude of tattooed people today because it will be out of style
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Post by mousestalker on Sept 21, 2016 0:05:27 GMT
This is absolutely unpopular:
No matter how well you take care of yourself, every part of you will stretch and sag. If you have work to get things tightened, then any art you have will be even more distorted and your features will begin to look unnatural.
The longer you live the more you will age. You can slow the process, but you can not stop it. And even if you have the cheekbones of Lena Horne, you will still age inside.
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Post by mattig89ch on Sept 21, 2016 0:12:46 GMT
Oh, here's an unpopular opinion! I don't like abortion, but I understand it in certain situations. In cases of rape, or incest, or cases of 'we can't afford to raise another human being'.
All that said, I honestly believe the father of any child should have a say in its life. From conception, to birth, to raising it, ect.
So I honestly believe, if a couple get pregnant, the father of that pregnancy should have a say on whether or not its terminated. I'm not sure how that would work realistically. Given how, if a woman doesn't want to carry a child to term and is determined to abort, there's not a whole lot anyone can do to stop her (short of tying her down to a bed, and keeping her sedated [also not in favor of that]).
Anyone I've expressed this opinion to, has looked at me like I have 3 heads. So its not exactly something you might call popular.
Edit: Just to be clear, situations like the 3 I listed above are the exception to this opinion. If a woman gets raped, or has sex with a male relative, or even doesn't live in a place where she can raise another human being, then yea I'm pro abortion.
I'm talking about situations where she decides she doesn't want the father in the child's life. Or of she can afford it, but doesn't want to have a child now, and doesn't consult the father prior to getting the abortion.
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Post by mrsanomaly on Sept 21, 2016 0:17:33 GMT
This is absolutely unpopular: No matter how well you take care of yourself, every part of you will stretch and sag. If you have work to get things tightened, then any art you have will be even more distorted and your features will begin to look unnatural. The longer you live the more you will age. You can slow the process, but you can not stop it. And even if you have the cheekbones of Lena Horne, you will still age inside. One of my favorite friends was trying to convince me to get botox (I don't think I'm interested) and we were having that convo about aging. She's in her 30's and I'm older than her- and she kept on telling me to "do it now! before it gets bad!" and then I reminded her: gravity- it exists. So even if you get all kinds of surgery or whatever it is you do, gravity is still gravity
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Post by rspanther on Sept 21, 2016 0:39:36 GMT
I don't care that Brad Pitt and Angelina Jolie are getting divorced.
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Post by Giant Ambush Beetle on Sept 21, 2016 0:56:06 GMT
I think the leather jacket is the coolest piece of clothing there is - for both genders.
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Post by The Hype Himself on Sept 21, 2016 1:42:16 GMT
Oh, here's an unpopular opinion! I don't like abortion, but I understand it in certain situations. In cases of rape, or incest, or cases of 'we can't afford to raise another human being'. All that said, I honestly believe the father of any child should have a say in its life. From conception, to birth, to raising it, ect. So I honestly believe, if a couple get pregnant, the father of that pregnancy should have a say on whether or not its terminated. I'm not sure how that would work realistically. Given how, if a woman doesn't want to carry a child to term and is determined to abort, there's not a whole lot anyone can do to stop her (short of tying her down to a bed, and keeping her sedated [also not in favor of that]). Anyone I've expressed this opinion to, has looked at me like I have 3 heads. So its not exactly something you might call popular. Edit: Just to be clear, situations like the 3 I listed above are the exception to this opinion. If a woman gets raped, or has sex with a male relative, or even doesn't live in a place where she can raise another human being, then yea I'm pro abortion. I'm talking about situations where she decides she doesn't want the father in the child's life. Or of she can afford it, but doesn't want to have a child now, and doesn't consult the father prior to getting the abortion. I refer you to the political thread for my detailed argument against your position, but I'm glad you recognize the problem over how the father having a say over the life of a child might come to conflict with the free will and personal agency of the mother over her own body. Also, I wouldn't say you were pro-abortion. That means that you actually want abortions to happen. I'm about as pro-choice as you can get, but I would never say I want to see abortions happen. I get what you're saying though. Personally, I think only one person should have a say in the potential life of the fetus, and that's the mother that's carrying it. If she wants to abort without telling the father, that's her prerogative. What goes on in her body is her business under her control. No exceptions, unless she has lost her mental faculties and is medically and legally designated as a mental invalid.
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Post by Nightman on Sept 21, 2016 1:44:10 GMT
I think Big Mac's suck. ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
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Post by mattig89ch on Sept 21, 2016 1:55:15 GMT
yep, that's the response I normally get. So I tend to keep this opinion to myself. As I said, I get looks like I have 3 heads, and one is wearing clown makeup.
I'm not sure you'd call my position a political one. Its more of a moral position. As far as I know, that opinion doesn't take away the mothers free will over her body.
That's probably the one thing that really gets my gears grinding anymore. Is taking away a persons ability to make choices and decisions. Basically free will. I will always fight tooth and nail for a persons freedom of choice and expression. I may not like that expression, but they should be allowed to express it. Same with choice. I don't have to like the choice, to believe they have the right to make it.
I'm actually very pro-firearm ownership, because of this belief. (another UN-popular opinion, here in NY at least)
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