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Post by The Hype Himself on Sept 20, 2016 1:29:15 GMT
I'd vote for Trump if I could. DAI is one of the worst games Bioware has made. I'd say the worst but apparently they made a Sonic game. Why do you like Drumpf? |
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Post by Ravenous Bear on Sept 20, 2016 1:30:20 GMT
RIP Discovery, History, and National Geographic. Real housewives of wherever, keeping up with the kardasians, and the like are the shows that I mean. It is all the same to me. All scripted crap with "reality stars".  |
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Post by crusty on Sept 20, 2016 1:30:43 GMT
Then you'd be wrong, I'm a powerlifter/strongman and I was in the military.  Basic training then served in the NBC corps for a while. No problems whatsoever, especially first aid combat drills that meant lifting and carrying geared-up fellow soldiers around was super easy, as were pushups and marching with heavy gear. Thats was absolutely nothing compared to the weights I use in training. Also in terms of practical strength, you'd be wrong as well. When I moved being able to lift washing machines and heavy furniture out of the truck and up/downstairs without having to ask any neighbors for help was great. Practical strength is the whole idea behind strongman.  Someone got offended quickly. "both power-lifters and body-builders are generally a bunch of meatheads that couldn't hack it in practical/applied situations such as the military" Ehhhh, I dunno, someone resorted to insults and generalisations without provocation very quickly. And it wasn't Beetle. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 20, 2016 1:32:06 GMT
Then you'd be wrong, I'm a powerlifter/strongman and I was in the military. Basic training then served in the NBC corps for a while. No problems whatsoever, especially first aid combat drills that meant lifting and carrying geared-up fellow soldiers around was super easy, as were pushups and marching with heavy gear. Thats was absolutely nothing compared to the weights I use in training. Also in terms of practical strength, you'd be wrong as well. When I moved being able to lift washing machines and heavy furniture out of the truck and up/downstairs without having to ask any neighbors for help was great. Practical strength is the whole idea behind strongman. Someone got offended quickly. The goal is to put more emphasis on cardiovascular robustness and being able to build endurance, not through weight training completely, but through applied techniques and skill that you outlined. You don't need to be a weightlifter at all to be able to accomplish all of that with ease. There are easier techniques that you can apply with minimal weight training skills that make the sorts of weight-lifting you do redundant. I still don't see it, honestly. You emphasize working harder. I believe in working smarter. Dexterity and cardio health are much more important in that aspect. Which, to be honest, I credit more to your conditioning in the military than your training with weights. Says the person who insulted him. And I'm pretty sure he's going to give you a lecture on why what you said is full of BS. |
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Post by The Hype Himself on Sept 20, 2016 1:33:57 GMT
Someone got offended quickly. "both power-lifters and body-builders are generally a bunch of meatheads that couldn't hack it in practical/applied situations such as the military" Ehhhh, I dunno, someone resorted to insults and generalisations without provocation very quickly. And it wasn't Beetle. I wasn't expecting a response in that manner in a thread deliberately talking about unpopular opinions created by said guy. Which is, you know, the point of the thread. |
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Post by crusty on Sept 20, 2016 1:35:24 GMT
"both power-lifters and body-builders are generally a bunch of meatheads that couldn't hack it in practical/applied situations such as the military" Ehhhh, I dunno, someone resorted to insults and generalisations without provocation very quickly. And it wasn't Beetle. I wasn't expecting a response in that manner in a thread deliberately talking about unpopular opinions created by said guy. Which is, you know, the point of the thread. What, a rebuttal? The thing that you did to several posters on the last page when you didn't agree with their opinions? |
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Post by Trilobite Derby on Sept 20, 2016 1:37:01 GMT
I think the biggest problem is this insistence on being empirically right and demonizing anyone who disagrees (stupid, bigot), and that civility is highly under-rated.
That's not the unpopular opinion. The unpopular opinion is that I think it may be more beneficial to be civil than to yell about your point of view.
There's plenty of standard bearers in this world, but we're social monkeys after all. Nothing seems to change our minds more than quietly living next to the other. I dunno; I'm trying to verbalize this because of COURSE it's important to stand up for your beliefs. And no, just tolerating someone being a jerk to avoid an argument isn't always the right path. But I feel like excessive polarization of view points and this insistence on never compromising has encouraged extreme views (which get more attention, creating a feedback loop). It just seems like we could all be a bit more friendly. And maybe we should.
I also really like alcohol, but have found it amazingly easy to quit when diet or location called for it.
And on the current topic: while I value fitness, I've always found the gym completely useless. But I've also always had a lot of access to wilderness and my life's been pretty active (physically demanding jobs, outdoor hobbies), so I might just not actually like gyms. It's soooooo boring! D:
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Post by Giant Ambush Beetle on Sept 20, 2016 1:37:43 GMT
Then you'd be wrong, I'm a powerlifter/strongman and I was in the military. Basic training then served in the NBC corps for a while. No problems whatsoever, especially first aid combat drills that meant lifting and carrying geared-up fellow soldiers around was super easy, as were pushups and marching with heavy gear. Thats was absolutely nothing compared to the weights I use in training. Also in terms of practical strength, you'd be wrong as well. When I moved being able to lift washing machines and heavy furniture out of the truck and up/downstairs without having to ask any neighbors for help was great. Practical strength is the whole idea behind strongman. Someone got offended quickly. The goal is to put more emphasis on cardiovascular robustness and being able to build endurance, not through weight training completely, but through applied techniques and skill that you outlined. You don't need to be a weightlifter at all to be able to accomplish all of that with ease. There are easier techniques that you can apply with minimal weight training skills that make the sorts of weight-lifting you do redundant. I still don't see it, honestly. You emphasize working harder. I believe in working smarter. Dexterity and cardio health are much more important in that aspect. No, not offended at all, I simply felt like correcting this sadly popular misconception about practical strength (in the military.) I hear it all the time from people who have little experience with weight lifting. I have been in the military, performed as well as all the others in my group and excelled in stuff that required strength. *shrugs* Another popular misconception I have to correct is that it is no problem to build endurance as a (natural) lifter. You have to work a little bit harder on it because you are heavier than the average person but unless world-class endurance is required its not a problem to achieve a decent amount of endurance. (again, as a natural lifter). I love mountain cycling BTW. Last but not least I'm not sure why I as a lifter cannot use clever techniques to lift stuff, those techniques are not limited to people that do not lift. In fact, if I use those techniques I can lift even more weight than other people with even less effort  |
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Post by The Hype Himself on Sept 20, 2016 1:37:48 GMT
Someone got offended quickly. The goal is to put more emphasis on cardiovascular robustness and being able to build endurance, not through weight training completely, but through applied techniques and skill that you outlined. You don't need to be a weightlifter at all to be able to accomplish all of that with ease. There are easier techniques that you can apply with minimal weight training skills that make the sorts of weight-lifting you do redundant. I still don't see it, honestly. You emphasize working harder. I believe in working smarter. Dexterity and cardio health are much more important in that aspect. Which, to be honest, I credit more to your conditioning in the military than your training with weights. Says the person who insulted him. And I'm pretty sure he's going to give you a lecturer on why what you said is full of BS, Said thread is on unpopular opinions. Plus I don't recall actually addressing the guy personally. And we're adults here. From what I've seen of the OP, he can handle it just fine. I'm don't think he's a delicate flower. And I'll be honest, I've never seen the wiry guy who can run and hike ever have trouble in the military. I've seen a lot of strongmen, weight lifters, etc. struggle. Not all of them, but a lot more than the guy who runs marathons instead of focusing on weight-training. |
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Post by DragonKingReborn on Sept 20, 2016 1:38:49 GMT
I'd vote for Trump if I could. DAI is one of the worst games Bioware has made. I'd say the worst but apparently they made a Sonic game. Why do you like Drumpf?  |
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Post by The Hype Himself on Sept 20, 2016 1:39:27 GMT
I wasn't expecting a response in that manner in a thread deliberately talking about unpopular opinions created by said guy. Which is, you know, the point of the thread. What, a rebuttal? The thing that you did to several posters on the last page when you didn't agree with their opinions? When did I say I disagreed with anyone's opinions on here? He's free to disagree with my opinion as much as he wants. I'm not forcing any train of thought on anyone here Crusty. |
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Post by isaidlunch on Sept 20, 2016 1:40:11 GMT
I'd vote for Trump if I could. DAI is one of the worst games Bioware has made. I'd say the worst but apparently they made a Sonic game. Why do you like Drumpf? He scares me less than Hillary. I've always liked him since he trashed the other Republic candidates in the debates though, he's amusing to watch. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 20, 2016 1:43:28 GMT
"No offense" is not a get out of jail free card for offending someone.
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Post by DragonKingReborn on Sept 20, 2016 1:43:29 GMT
Unpopular opinion....
Hilary Clinton got he Democratic nomination 8 years too late. And Barack Obama got it 8 years too early.
A democratic Hawk with her command of language and no...I'll use the word controversies, though most of them are nonsense...would have beaten McCain as easily as Obama did.
A supreme orator like Obama - without any personal drama or scandal attached - would wipe the floor with the Drumpf.
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Post by The Hype Himself on Sept 20, 2016 1:44:20 GMT
Someone got offended quickly. The goal is to put more emphasis on cardiovascular robustness and being able to build endurance, not through weight training completely, but through applied techniques and skill that you outlined. You don't need to be a weightlifter at all to be able to accomplish all of that with ease. There are easier techniques that you can apply with minimal weight training skills that make the sorts of weight-lifting you do redundant. I still don't see it, honestly. You emphasize working harder. I believe in working smarter. Dexterity and cardio health are much more important in that aspect. No, not offended at all, I simply felt like correcting this sadly popular misconception about practical strength (in the military.) I hear it all the time from people who have little experience with weight lifting. I have been in the military, performed as well as all the others in my group and excelled in stuff that required strength. *shrugs* Another popular misconception I have to correct is that it is no problem to build endurance as a (natural) lifter. You have to work a little bit harder on it because you are heavier than the average person but unless world-class endurance is required its not a problem to achieve a decent amount of endurance. (again, as a natural lifter). I love mountain cycling BTW. Last but not least I'm not sure why I as a lifter cannot use clever techniques to lift stuff, those techniques are not limited to people that do not lift. In fact, if I use those techniques I can lift even more weight than other people with even less effort That's fine then. I never stated you as a lifter don't use clever techniques. I stated I put emphasis on them. Let's get that one straight. I'm going to suggest an agreement to disagree here. |
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Post by straykat on Sept 20, 2016 1:46:13 GMT
He scares me less than Hillary. I've always liked him since he trashed the other Republic candidates in the debates though, he's amusing to watch. I would take any of those Republicans more than him. He's not even that Republican. Or at all really. For example, they were all free market types.. and he wants to slap tariffs on people. All in the name of nationalism. One has to give way..You can't truly be both. Maybe that's my unpopular opinion: Donald Trump isn't even a Republican. |
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Post by Trilobite Derby on Sept 20, 2016 1:47:27 GMT
"No offense" is not a get out of jail free card for offending someone. But at the same time, most of the time it's not particularly helpful to be offended past the "Hey, that's kind of mean" comment. And move on. On the same note, saying you were joking isn't a free card for being an offensive jackass. (I had a moment where I was like "Wait, is that too curmudgeonly? ...HANG ON A GOSH DARN MINUTE THIS IS THE UNPOPULAR OPINION THREAD FULL SPEED AHEAD.) Speaking of that, 'yolo' was a surprisingly useful term and I'm kind of sad it's died and only really lived ironically. |
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Post by Giant Ambush Beetle on Sept 20, 2016 1:49:52 GMT
No, not offended at all, I simply felt like correcting this sadly popular misconception about practical strength (in the military.) I hear it all the time from people who have little experience with weight lifting. I have been in the military, performed as well as all the others in my group and excelled in stuff that required strength. *shrugs* Another popular misconception I have to correct is that it is no problem to build endurance as a (natural) lifter. You have to work a little bit harder on it because you are heavier than the average person but unless world-class endurance is required its not a problem to achieve a decent amount of endurance. (again, as a natural lifter). I love mountain cycling BTW. Last but not least I'm not sure why I as a lifter cannot use clever techniques to lift stuff, those techniques are not limited to people that do not lift. In fact, if I use those techniques I can lift even more weight than other people with even less effort That's fine then. I never stated you as a lifter don't use clever techniques. I stated I put emphasis on them. Let's get that one straight. I'm going to suggest an agreement to disagree here. No hard feelings, we can do that. Though I'm not sure what exactly it is you are disagreeing on. Also you mentioned that you did not expect a response to your opinion. This thread is of course not just for dumping random opinions and then leaving but also to spark interesting conversations and discussions. Otherwise it would become a rather stale place pretty quick, no? |
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Post by straykat on Sept 20, 2016 1:51:24 GMT
Personally, I wouldn't mind some body builder carrying my pack while traversing the desert. Fine with me.  |
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Post by crusty on Sept 20, 2016 1:54:37 GMT
He scares me less than Hillary. I've always liked him since he trashed the other Republic candidates in the debates though, he's amusing to watch. I would take any of those Republicans more than him. He's not even that Republican. Or at all really. For example, they were all free market types.. and he wants to slap tariffs on people. All in the name of nationalism. One has to give way..You can't truly be both. Maybe that's my unpopular opinion: Donald Trump isn't even a Republican. Ive heard him described as a Jacksonian Democrat in the past and I think it's rather apt. |
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Post by The Hype Himself on Sept 20, 2016 1:56:51 GMT
That's fine then. I never stated you as a lifter don't use clever techniques. I stated I put emphasis on them. Let's get that one straight. I'm going to suggest an agreement to disagree here. No hard feelings, we can do that. Though I'm not sure what exactly it is you are disagreeing on. Also you mentioned that you did not expect a response to your opinion. This thread is of course not just for dumping random opinions and then leaving but also to spark interesting conversations and discussions. Otherwise it would become a rather stale place pretty quick, no? That focus on weight-training over cardiovascular training (or mountain-biking) is as efficient or effective as putting you into the best form of robust fitness. But let's leave it there. It seems I've offended other people in this thread who take particular issue with my opinions (which I do not believe has much to do with what my opinions are so much as who is making them.) |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 20, 2016 1:59:17 GMT
When people assume your offended when you actually don't give that much of a shit... oh wait that's in the popular opinions thread. :^)
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Post by The Hype Himself on Sept 20, 2016 2:01:23 GMT
I would take any of those Republicans more than him. He's not even that Republican. Or at all really. For example, they were all free market types.. and he wants to slap tariffs on people. All in the name of nationalism. One has to give way..You can't truly be both. Maybe that's my unpopular opinion: Donald Trump isn't even a Republican. Ive heard him described as a Jacksonian Democrat in the past and I think it's rather apt. I don't. Trump may have Jackson's bluster, but I don't see his commitment to policy. Trump is also a chickenhawk; Jackson was not only a war veteran (at 12 years old no less) but was known to personally beat down assassins. And duel his enemies (killing them, after letting them shoot first.) Jackson had a lot skeletons, but the raw charisma of his personality and political will is a lot different than the the inflammation Trump touts and spreads. |
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Post by crusty on Sept 20, 2016 2:08:10 GMT
Well I guess that's just my unpopular opinion. No need to get offended by it. :^)
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Post by E-Ro on Sept 20, 2016 2:11:19 GMT
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