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Post by mrsanomaly on Oct 6, 2016 19:07:03 GMT
I would equate that with indentured servitude. (although IF and when workers get mass replaced by machinery/robots GLWT poor people because it's the end game for the lower classes). Ehh I can imagine the outcome. ._. Mass and I mean mass upheaval and civil disruption on a scale difficult to describe. I mean what do you do when 90% of the population has no prospect for the future, no hope, no means of income? I would imagine several countries would fall into anarchic hellholes pretty damn quick. I mean you have already seen small glimpse of that future in Spain, Greece and Italy over the prior decade to just name a few. We agree? *mind blown* But yes- a huge portion the population that has no place to earn money or respect will be a very bad bad thing- and immoral IMO. Thus far capitalism has been the best model- however I do not think capitalism has a good response for the prospect of a huge chunk of the population becoming obsolete.
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XBL Gamertag: Beerfish77
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Post by Beerfish on Oct 6, 2016 19:39:34 GMT
Johnny Cash's version of 'Hurt' is not good. (I'll get an earful over this one.)
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Post by razrblck ☯ on Oct 6, 2016 19:50:14 GMT
Italy? Our economy is on the rise, unemployment rates are getting lower. Yes, we had issues, not because workers have been replaced by machines though.
Mechanization has been going on full speed for like 150 years now and it's not going to stop. But while there is less and less need for unskilled labor, there will be more demand for technicians that will service said machines at least until they can self repair (so a few more decades).
The biggest (hopefully positive) change to our society will come from circular economy. The linear economy system that required so much unskilled labor is doomed to end, as it is unsustainable both financially and environmentally on the long term. This shift will led to the creation of jobs out of the new challenges, while old professions will disappear.
Things are already moving in this direction, even more so now that EU is financing directly projects that help develop a comprehensive circular economy. And that's just the plan up to 2020, after that you can expect an even bigger push for change, while everyone else will have to adapt.
P.S. Our welfare works remarkably well, and because we have been through a long process of moving to more automated factories (while many others closed off when China undercut our prices 20 years ago), the unskilled workers rising up would be a very small number. A lot of the people you see working in factories today in Italy cannot be considered unskilled, as they all have some kind of deeper knowledge about their profession, way more than "put a nail in there and move to the next thing". A lot of this is due to the abundance of small businesses in our country, where every employee usually has to do a bit more than just their job description, so knowledge in more than one field is needed.
If you expect millions of workers to start a rebellion, like they could've done back in the 1920s, you are very far off the mark. That is more likely to happen in China.
P.P.S. Some unskilled workers will always have jobs in the agriculture industry, as for some crops there is still no machine that can pick up the good efficiently like a person can (tobacco is one example, and it's a rather sizeable industry in southern Italy).
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Post by mrsanomaly on Oct 6, 2016 21:41:54 GMT
Italy? Our economy is on the rise, unemployment rates are getting lower. Yes, we had issues, not because workers have been replaced by machines though. Mechanization has been going on full speed for like 150 years now and it's not going to stop. But while there is less and less need for unskilled labor, there will be more demand for technicians that will service said machines at least until they can self repair (so a few more decades). The biggest (hopefully positive) change to our society will come from circular economy. The linear economy system that required so much unskilled labor is doomed to end, as it is unsustainable both financially and environmentally on the long term. This shift will led to the creation of jobs out of the new challenges, while old professions will disappear. Things are already moving in this direction, even more so now that EU is financing directly projects that help develop a comprehensive circular economy. And that's just the plan up to 2020, after that you can expect an even bigger push for change, while everyone else will have to adapt. P.S. Our welfare works remarkably well, and because we have been through a long process of moving to more automated factories (while many others closed off when China undercut our prices 20 years ago), the unskilled workers rising up would be a very small number. A lot of the people you see working in factories today in Italy cannot be considered unskilled, as they all have some kind of deeper knowledge about their profession, way more than "put a nail in there and move to the next thing". A lot of this is due to the abundance of small businesses in our country, where every employee usually has to do a bit more than just their job description, so knowledge in more than one field is needed. If you expect millions of workers to start a rebellion, like they could've done back in the 1920s, you are very far off the mark. That is more likely to happen in China. P.P.S. Some unskilled workers will always have jobs in the agriculture industry, as for some crops there is still no machine that can pick up the good efficiently like a person can (tobacco is one example, and it's a rather sizeable industry in southern Italy). OH.
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Post by Trilobite Derby on Oct 6, 2016 21:54:47 GMT
Johnny Cash's version of 'Hurt' is not good. (I'll get an earful over this one.) I swear I will fight you Beerfish. Hallelujah is probably the song with the most decent covers out there.
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Post by smeckie on Oct 6, 2016 22:54:17 GMT
I don't give a fuck about Kim Kardashian being robbed.
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Post by straykat on Oct 6, 2016 22:57:51 GMT
I don't give a fuck about Kim Kardashian being robbed. In my imaginary world, this is a popular opinion.
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Post by Giant Ambush Beetle on Oct 7, 2016 0:01:44 GMT
I don't give a fuck about Kim Kardashian being robbed. Robbed is a nice way to say it, apparently there is some really shady stuff going on there.
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Post by straykat on Oct 7, 2016 0:21:15 GMT
I don't give a fuck about Kim Kardashian being robbed. Robbed is a nice way to say it, apparently there is some really shady stuff going on there. lol... you're keeping up with the story, I see.
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Post by Solas on Oct 7, 2016 0:26:55 GMT
Johnny Cash's version of 'Hurt' is not good. (I'll get an earful over this one.) u wot m8
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You're a talker and talkers make me thirsty.
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XBL Gamertag: smeckie
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Prime Likes: 3,665
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Post by smeckie on Oct 7, 2016 0:36:50 GMT
I don't give a fuck about Kim Kardashian being robbed. In my imaginary world, this is a popular opinion. I feel bad about Kim Kardashian getting robbed.
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Post by CrutchCricket on Oct 7, 2016 1:45:53 GMT
Hey just a reminder that unpopular opinions of the political sort can be stated here but if you want to discuss them, head over to wrongthink.
Oh and also: Coke, Pepsi? Same shit. Can't tell the difference.
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Post by Giant Ambush Beetle on Oct 7, 2016 1:46:45 GMT
Robbed is a nice way to say it, apparently there is some really shady stuff going on there. lol... you're keeping up with the story, I see. With the potency of media nowadays its nearly inevitable.
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Post by BamBam the Destroyer on Oct 7, 2016 2:05:35 GMT
Hey just a reminder that unpopular opinions of the political sort can be stated here but if you want to discuss them, head over to wrongthink. Oh and also: Coke, Pepsi? Same shit. Can't tell the difference. Pepsi tastes like sugar and Coke tastes like gasoline
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Post by DragonKingReborn on Oct 7, 2016 2:05:36 GMT
Hey just a reminder that unpopular opinions of the political sort can be stated here but if you want to discuss them, head over to wrongthink. Oh and also: Coke, Pepsi? Same shit. Can't tell the difference. ..the hell? Shots fired.
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Post by Arijon van Goyen on Oct 9, 2016 6:13:51 GMT
BTW it doesn't matter if our atoms, cells and genes have similarities with some animals, what really matters is that the humans have the ability to think, build tools, to create art and have morals.
That's what makes us very interesting and superior. Well at least till 18th/19th centuries...
In b4 you're a specieist... No, I like many animals too.
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Post by Lavochkin on Oct 9, 2016 6:14:42 GMT
Hey just a reminder that unpopular opinions of the political sort can be stated here but if you want to discuss them, head over to wrongthink. Oh and also: Coke, Pepsi? Same shit. Can't tell the difference. Pepsi tastes like sugar and Coke tastes like gasolineDoesn't smell as good as it though.
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Games: Mass Effect Trilogy, Dragon Age: Origins, Dragon Age 2, Dragon Age Inquisition, Baldur's Gate, Neverwinter Nights, Jade Empire, Mass Effect Andromeda
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Post by OneWomanArmy on Oct 9, 2016 7:59:43 GMT
Hey just a reminder that unpopular opinions of the political sort can be stated here but if you want to discuss them, head over to wrongthink. Oh and also: Coke, Pepsi? Same shit. Can't tell the difference. Noooooo you're one of those? There's a HUGE difference IMO, I can't drink Pepsi, it has to be Cola
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Post by Primordial Walker on Oct 9, 2016 11:46:44 GMT
Water > soda
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Post by OneWomanArmy on Oct 9, 2016 12:52:02 GMT
In my imaginary world, this is a popular opinion. I feel bad about Kim Kardashian getting robbed. I see what you did there 😜
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Post by Toyish Batphone on Oct 9, 2016 13:27:35 GMT
Unpopular opinions ? Boy have I got a few...
1) Equality is a pipe dream. People are different which means some people are better than other at some things and vice versa. As a result, any equality oriented reform is simply going to favor or privilege one group at the expense of other groups. You can either have meritocracy or equality, you cannot have both for it is impossible.
2) Black Lives Matter is a trash organization. Well, to be accurate, Black Live Matter is a black supremacist movement dressed up as some sort of equality-oriented organization. Furthermore, the biggest threat to Blacks in the USA is not Whites or Hispanics or Asians, but other Blacks since Black-on-Black crime is the highest and most deadly.
3) Feminism is a misandric female supremacist movement that is the primary cause of the destruction of the nuclear family in the West (single motherhood is the norm in the West now and with that comes a whole host of social problems), the meteoric rise of the burdensome welfare state in the West and the rampant male hatred (towards both boys and men) that is going on in the West.
4) Whites are far too gullible and easily guilt-tripped by other groups of people. It is quite frankly pathetic to watch and I hope that Whites grow a backbone and are proud of their culture once again - For example, Whites are the ones responsible to end slavery. Asians can appreciate their culture, Blacks can appreciate their culture, Hispanics and appreciate their culture but if Whites tried to do so, its racism !
5) The institution of academia is broken and corrupt beyond saving. Political correctness, censorship, safe spaces, micro-aggression, blind hatred of different ideas (academia so pro leftist that it alienates centrist like myself and conservatives) together with publish or perish mentality has ruined what was once a noble institution of knowledge acquisition.
6) Islam is the greatest evil in existence in the world right now. Read the Quran and you will see that Islam calls for the conquest, subjugation and even death of non-Muslims, apostates, homosexuals, atheists, agnostics, and women. Islam also promotes pedophilia, barbaric body mutilation as punishments, stoning, and slavery.
7) Western Europe as we know it is dead, for Western Europeans have committed cultural suicide in the name of abstract bullshit like multiculturalism. Sweden is the rape capital of Europe, crimes by Muslim immigrants are on the rise, Oktoberfest which took place recently had its lowest attendance record,etc. Here's hoping Eastern Europeans do not go full retard and so far, Eastern Europeans are doing splendidly and they are resisting cultural suicide. I guess they still remember the legacy of the Hussars and the Battle of Vienna.
8) Westerners should leave the Middle East the fuck alone - Enough is enough. That place is a complete messy clusterfuck thanks to European "Divide and Rule" policy during the colonial days which ensured that Middle East will remain fractured and this then results in violence whereby the only viable rulers in such an environment would be dictators. Just leave the Middle Easterners to fight each other and gloat over it on TV the same way we gloat over wrestling matches, there is no need to play policeman and interfere or to stage coups against the Middle Eastern leadership.
9) Its high time the American government stop thinking that it is still living in the Cold War period and ally with Russia. Both nations are now capitalists (in theory), both are White-majority nations founded on Christianity. The last time USA and Russia allied for a common cause, they stopped the evil Nazis (yeah I know the Brits helped too). Seriously USA, Russia is not your enemy.
10) The United Nations has outlived its usefulness and is now just a huge sinkhole of money. Either dissolve it completely or keep the good parts of it like UNESCO, WHO, etc and scrap the embarrassment that is the UN Human Rights Council and the impotent UN Security Council which cannot seem to do anything meaningful.
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Post by Kenny Bania on Oct 9, 2016 13:38:15 GMT
Yikes.
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Post by CrutchCricket on Oct 9, 2016 17:52:53 GMT
A pre-emptive reminder. Political opinions can be stated here but if you want to discuss them, take it to wrongthink or PM.
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Post by The Hype Himself on Oct 9, 2016 18:03:51 GMT
Unpopular opinion: American Football is awesome, better and more entertaining than rugby, and at least as exciting as Soccer.
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Post by The Hype Himself on Oct 9, 2016 18:05:33 GMT
Unpopular opinions ? Boy have I got a few... 1) Equality is a pipe dream. People are different which means some people are better than other at some things and vice versa. As a result, any equality oriented reform is simply going to favor or privilege one group at the expense of other groups. You can either have meritocracy or equality, you cannot have both for it is impossible. 2) Black Lives Matter is a trash organization. Well, to be accurate, Black Live Matter is a black supremacist movement dressed up as some sort of equality-oriented organization. Furthermore, the biggest threat to Blacks in the USA is not Whites or Hispanics or Asians, but other Blacks since Black-on-Black crime is the highest and most deadly. 3) Feminism is a misandric female supremacist movement that is the primary cause of the destruction of the nuclear family in the West (single motherhood is the norm in the West now and with that comes a whole host of social problems), the meteoric rise of the burdensome welfare state in the West and the rampant male hatred (towards both boys and men) that is going on in the West. 4) Whites are far too gullible and easily guilt-tripped by other groups of people. It is quite frankly pathetic to watch and I hope that Whites grow a backbone and are proud of their culture once again - For example, Whites are the ones responsible to end slavery. Asians can appreciate their culture, Blacks can appreciate their culture, Hispanics and appreciate their culture but if Whites tried to do so, its racism ! 5) The institution of academia is broken and corrupt beyond saving. Political correctness, censorship, safe spaces, micro-aggression, blind hatred of different ideas (academia so pro leftist that it alienates centrist like myself and conservatives) together with publish or perish mentality has ruined what was once a noble institution of knowledge acquisition. 6) Islam is the greatest evil in existence in the world right now. Read the Quran and you will see that Islam calls for the conquest, subjugation and even death of non-Muslims, apostates, homosexuals, atheists, agnostics, and women. Islam also promotes pedophilia, barbaric body mutilation as punishments, stoning, and slavery. 7) Western Europe as we know it is dead, for Western Europeans have committed cultural suicide in the name of abstract bullshit like multiculturalism. Sweden is the rape capital of Europe, crimes by Muslim immigrants are on the rise, Oktoberfest which took place recently had its lowest attendance record,etc. Here's hoping Eastern Europeans do not go full retard and so far, Eastern Europeans are doing splendidly and they are resisting cultural suicide. I guess they still remember the legacy of the Hussars and the Battle of Vienna. 8) Westerners should leave the Middle East the fuck alone - Enough is enough. That place is a complete messy clusterfuck thanks to European "Divide and Rule" policy during the colonial days which ensured that Middle East will remain fractured and this then results in violence whereby the only viable rulers in such an environment would be dictators. Just leave the Middle Easterners to fight each other and gloat over it on TV the same way we gloat over wrestling matches, there is no need to play policeman and interfere or to stage coups against the Middle Eastern leadership. 9) Its high time the American government stop thinking that it is still living in the Cold War period and ally with Russia. Both nations are now capitalists (in theory), both are White-majority nations founded on Christianity. The last time USA and Russia allied for a common cause, they stopped the evil Nazis (yeah I know the Brits helped too). Seriously USA, Russia is not your enemy. 10) The United Nations has outlived its usefulness and is now just a huge sinkhole of money. Either dissolve it completely or keep the good parts of it like UNESCO, WHO, etc and scrap the embarrassment that is the UN Human Rights Council and the impotent UN Security Council which cannot seem to do anything meaningful. There's a lot of problems in this post, but in the interest of preserving Crutch's authority and integrity in this thread I'll just say this: Buddy, you are not a centrist.
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