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Post by rolenka on Jul 28, 2017 23:18:19 GMT
Like oh, I don't know, creating the Scourge. There are a few episodes of Stargate: Atlantis where they come across Ancient technology that had been decommissioned and turned out to be very dangerous to attempt to use.
Of course we find out that is not the case, and there is nothing to worry about.
It still struck me as unwise to rely too much on technology they don't understand or know how to fix if something goes wrong. But they were desperate for a fast solution.
If you reach 100% viability on all worlds, they start terraforming Habitat 7 the old-fashioned way. I would probably have picked a non-Remnant planet in case the vault acts up again or an unforeseen danger with Remtech emerges.
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Post by lilyenachaos on Jul 29, 2017 1:54:24 GMT
Are there any even remotely habitable non-Remnant planets in the cluster? I don't recall coming across any, but I didn't read the planet descriptions while exploring/scanning very closely either.
I agree it's foolish to rely on technology they don't understand, but they don't have any choice at this point. Hopefully SAM will be able to help Peebee and the other scientists figure things out. Meridian still seems like a terrible idea. I think that's seriously going to bite them in the bum somehow.
Edit: Also, wasn't the Scourge created by an opposing faction/enemy of the people who created the Remnant?
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Post by rolenka on Jul 29, 2017 2:39:55 GMT
Are there any even remotely habitable non-Remnant planets in the cluster? I don't recall coming across any, but I didn't read the planet descriptions while exploring/scanning very closely either. Edit: Also, wasn't the Scourge created by an opposing faction/enemy of the people who created the Remnant? Yeah, that is what they discover at Meridian. I don't know what they were fighting over that would be worth making the cluster not worth fighting over. That plus the vanishing of both species is a little implausible and fizzles out where there could have been a plot twist, but there you go. What they need is for a pathfinder to do some long-range scouting and branch out of the cluster. They could use telescopes on the Nexus to find likely candidates. Maybe they will now that short-term survival is assured. It's just odd no one really has misgivings about using remtech. Kallo hopes they will find a way to neutralize or protect ships from the scourge. Maybe they will.
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Post by lilyenachaos on Jul 29, 2017 3:56:47 GMT
Are there any even remotely habitable non-Remnant planets in the cluster? I don't recall coming across any, but I didn't read the planet descriptions while exploring/scanning very closely either. Edit: Also, wasn't the Scourge created by an opposing faction/enemy of the people who created the Remnant? Yeah, that is what they discover at Meridian. I don't know what they were fighting over that would be worth making the cluster not worth fighting over. That plus the vanishing of both species is a little implausible and fizzles out where there could have been a plot twist, but there you go. What they need is for a pathfinder to do some long-range scouting and branch out of the cluster. They could use telescopes on the Nexus to find likely candidates. Maybe they will now that short-term survival is assured. It's just odd no one really has misgivings about using remtech. Kallo hopes they will find a way to neutralize or protect ships from the scourge. Maybe they will. It's definitely a plot line they left open, one that I hope we get to see more of in MEA2. (Yeah, I'm one of the 'delusional fans' who thinks there will be a second. No apologies.)
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Post by rolenka on Jul 29, 2017 4:24:20 GMT
Yeah, that is what they discover at Meridian. I don't know what they were fighting over that would be worth making the cluster not worth fighting over. That plus the vanishing of both species is a little implausible and fizzles out where there could have been a plot twist, but there you go. What they need is for a pathfinder to do some long-range scouting and branch out of the cluster. They could use telescopes on the Nexus to find likely candidates. Maybe they will now that short-term survival is assured. It's just odd no one really has misgivings about using remtech. Kallo hopes they will find a way to neutralize or protect ships from the scourge. Maybe they will. It's definitely a plot line they left open, one that I hope we get to see more of in MEA2. (Yeah, I'm one of the 'delusional fans' who thinks there will be a second. No apologies.) I believe the reports of BW Montreal unexpectedly downsizing and of Mass Effect being put on ice, but I also believe they will get back to it and make a sequel someday. As long as they don't wait so long it becomes awkward and fan enthusiasm fades, like Valve with Half Life.
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Post by xeternalxdreams on Jul 29, 2017 6:31:06 GMT
Living on planets controlled by these vaults that could malfunction at any time with a main kill switch somewhere else is nerve wrecking as a civilian on those planets..
..the scourge is attracted to the remnant and I'm sure it would spread to those planets sooner or later.
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Post by rma2110 on Jul 29, 2017 8:23:47 GMT
I think the vault malfunctioned due to a conflict or war. The Scourge is similar to a minefield either to keep enemies out or maybe box them in. Maybe the technology turned on thier creators. Architects destroying instead of building, observers and breaches attacking. Who knows if we'll go back to the theme of organic vs. inorganic life.could this Ancirnt conflict be the reason Reapers were create do? The Jardaan went too far and someone wants to make sure it never happens again?
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Post by rolenka on Jul 29, 2017 14:43:21 GMT
I think the vault malfunctioned due to a conflict or war. The Scourge is similar to a minefield either to keep enemies out or maybe box them in. Maybe the technology turned on thier creators. Architects destroying instead of building, observers and breaches attacking. Who knows if we'll go back to the theme of organic vs. inorganic life.could this Ancirnt conflict be the reason Reapers were create do? The Jardaan went too far and someone wants to make sure it never happens again? It sounded like they turned off the lights, packed the car and went into hiding, sending Meridian away so it couldn't be used while they were gone.
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Post by rma2110 on Jul 29, 2017 15:15:10 GMT
I think the vault malfunctioned due to a conflict or war. The Scourge is similar to a minefield either to keep enemies out or maybe box them in. Maybe the technology turned on thier creators. Architects destroying instead of building, observers and breaches attacking. Who knows if we'll go back to the theme of organic vs. inorganic life.could this Ancirnt conflict be the reason Reapers were create do? The Jardaan went too far and someone wants to make sure it never happens again? It sounded like they turned off the lights, packed the car and went into hiding, sending Meridian away so it couldn't be used while they were gone. Maybe. Would be interesting to know if they went the way of the Protheans or there's a group of their desendants alive somewhere.
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Post by rapscallioness on Aug 2, 2017 3:40:09 GMT
Hmm, this is interesting. I had not considered this.
Question: did the Jaardan specifically say what the "weapon" was that was unleashed on them by their enemy? It's alot of bits of info, so I may have missed some. But now that I'm wondering, what I remember was them referring just to a weapon, not necessarily the Scourge, or description of it because I doubt they called it the Scourge.
I also remember at the end finding out that the Jaardan were-for some reason-wary of Meridian itself, even though they tucked it away.
Could it be that these vaults and whatnot were hacked by their enemy and then used like a Trojan Horse, and the Scourge was actually deployed by the Jaardan to wipe the system? And a hard reboot/wipe of a system can really jank your stuff up. All the software and upgrades, everything you've done to that point - janked up.
Then Meridian being something like the super hard drive core of the system needed to saved, but they weren't entirely sure if it was "virus" free. Maybe the Jaardan in creating this tech and vaults left a back door wide open?
Although, do we know for sure that the Jaardan created the remnant tech? I doubt the Angaran know for sure, either. I mean, but do we know, or am I just filling in the spaces of missing info with assumption? Or did the Jaardan stumble upon it, too. Only to find it was a trap?
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Post by dmc1001 on Aug 3, 2017 19:56:01 GMT
Like oh, I don't know, creating the Scourge. There are a few episodes of Stargate: Atlantis where they come across Ancient technology that had been decommissioned and turned out to be very dangerous to attempt to use. Of course we find out that is not the case, and there is nothing to worry about. It still struck me as unwise to rely too much on technology they don't understand or know how to fix if something goes wrong. But they were desperate for a fast solution. If you reach 100% viability on all worlds, they start terraforming Habitat 7 the old-fashioned way. I would probably have picked a non-Remnant planet in case the vault acts up again or an unforeseen danger with Remtech emerges. Generally agree but at the same time these places were known viable worlds in the past. It was the Remnant tech that created the problems. Still, it would make sense to use these planets as a starting point while also seeking out worlds that the Remnant haven't toyed with.
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