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Post by seductivewizard on Aug 1, 2017 2:42:05 GMT
When i play singleplayer on this game, I switch over from my PC monitor to my 75 inch 4k tv. Fortunately, I have a dual gpu rig that churns out the fps i need for 4k. Somedays, i am truly madly & deeply stunned by what what i'm looking at. This game and the witcher 3.....so fking beautiful fellas.....lets me float off into worlds where i can quite easily forget about my everyday problems.
I remember back in the 80s, when i used to play pac-man on my dad's DOS computer! Times have changed fellas.....times have changed. Some of you younger fellas who've never seen a DOS computer, a granpa phone or a dial up modem need to count your blessings. Gnite....
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Post by Zyurat on Aug 1, 2017 3:12:11 GMT
Are you placing The Witcher 3 and ME:A in the same level of graphical detail? because I refuse to believe that's true. seen and played both and ME:A is not even close to the level of graphical detail of Witcher 3.
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Post by kalas on Aug 1, 2017 3:13:51 GMT
nice.
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Post by Uchimura on Aug 1, 2017 3:16:27 GMT
I remember back in the 80s, when i used to play pac-man on my dad's DOS computer! Times have changed fellas.....times have changed. Some of you younger fellas who've never seen a DOS computer, a granpa phone or a dial up modem need to count your blessings. Gnite.... I remember playing Duke 3D and doom 2 over tcp/ip. That was some crazy shit.
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Post by Unicephalon 40-D on Aug 1, 2017 7:41:01 GMT
Are you placing The Witcher 3 and ME:A in the same level of graphical detail? because I refuse to believe that's true. seen and played both and ME:A is not even close to the level of graphical detail of Witcher 3. And I dont see whats the fuss about Witcher is, just plain ordinary forests. Its not even close to the detail of MEA See its about who likes what.
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Post by Transcended One on Aug 1, 2017 7:46:13 GMT
Are you placing The Witcher 3 and ME:A in the same level of graphical detail? because I refuse to believe that's true. seen and played both and ME:A is not even close to the level of graphical detail of Witcher 3. And I dont see whats the fuss about Witcher is, just plain ordinary forests. Its not even close to the detail of MEA See its about who likes what. This! While The Witcher 3 looks nice, it certainly doesn't look like it did in the alpha-footage (you know, the Watch_Dogs-effect...). The dynamic lighting is great in TW3, but the level of detail and the textures, let alone the tesselation is technically a lot worse than MEA's... Artistically it's always a matter of opinion...
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Post by Unicephalon 40-D on Aug 1, 2017 7:52:43 GMT
And I dont see whats the fuss about Witcher is, just plain ordinary forests. Its not even close to the detail of MEA See its about who likes what. This! While The Witcher 3 looks nice, it certainly doesn't look like it did in the alpha-footage (you know, the Watch_Dogs-effect...). The dynamic lighting is great in TW3, but the level of detail and the textures, let alone the tesselation is technically a lot worse than MEA's... Artistically it's always a matter of opinion... Yes. As I said in the shoutbox too, textures and real level of detail in the objects and surroundings is less than in ME:A. Its just the way it is, ME:A is newer and had a bigger budget for targeting PS4/XBONE/PC. Its like comparing DA:I to ME:A too.
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Post by RonnieBlastoff on Aug 1, 2017 11:08:21 GMT
People are often complaining about the crap in MEA, but ultimately I believe the graphics are the reason everything is such a mess in MEA, simply because yes it is a very very nice visual game. Had the quality in graphics been placed in quality everywhere else, this game would imo been a top-selling must have title for all platforms. Gameplay and fun factor > graphics.
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Post by Scathane on Aug 1, 2017 11:21:06 GMT
People are often complaining about the crap in MEA, but ultimately I believe the graphics are the reason everything is such a mess in MEA, simply because yes it is a very very nice visual game. Had the quality in graphics been placed in quality everywhere else, this game would imo been a top-selling must have title for all platforms. Gameplay and fun factor > graphics. You mean the game is demanding on the graphics or have I misunderstood? I've often wondered if that's the issue since most of the problems I had were gone after I bought a new laptop...
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Post by guanxi on Aug 1, 2017 11:36:55 GMT
The environments are pretty but too sparse - I'd have preferred smaller more detailed handcrafted environments with a smaller number of more substantial quests with branching paths rather than the low hanging fruit procedural filler we got. In other words it's pretty but vacuous, they advanced the series in the wrong direction - it was made for trailer beauty shots to sell copies and expensive hardware to a wider audience at the expense of the roleplaying and storytelling aspects which foster immersion - the stuff the fans actually cared about. So what we got was a largely forgettable shadow of it's former self which left very few people satisfied, but at least it looks pretty on a 4k tv. At least you're getting something out of it I suppose.
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Post by RonnieBlastoff on Aug 1, 2017 11:50:45 GMT
That clip looks beautiful.....fake,( I'll explain later) but beautiful. Read deep into what I posted above... the clip "looks" beautiful. But a few things cross my mind now when I see things like this, in relation to games. Does this game look like this at a consistent framerate? Everywhere? As in this isn't just a map used for a trailer? Is this just scenery, or do I get to play in this environment? Is the environment interactive? (I want to kick over that tower of rocks! ) How does the character I'm playing look in relation to the scenery? When I input a command, does my character function correctly EVERY time? Does everything else in the game, (fun factor, replay value ect.) match the quality of the scenery? I noticed now games are all about this, just this, visuals. Actual "gameplay" quality doesn't really matter anymore. This is what sells so this is what games are. This is fucking terrible.... (I subconsciously knew right from the get go without even acknowledging the title that it was a Unreal engine produced clip. It has that "glossy gears of war" effect.)
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Post by RonnieBlastoff on Aug 1, 2017 12:00:41 GMT
People are often complaining about the crap in MEA, but ultimately I believe the graphics are the reason everything is such a mess in MEA, simply because yes it is a very very nice visual game. Had the quality in graphics been placed in quality everywhere else, this game would imo been a top-selling must have title for all platforms. Gameplay and fun factor > graphics. You mean the game is demanding on the graphics or have I misunderstood? I've often wondered if that's the issue since most of the problems I had were gone after I bought a new laptop... I actually mean, that so much energy, or resources(?) are put on quality of graphics, that when a game is being developed, things such as playability and flaws seem to be completely overlooked. The game being demanding on hardware is just a whole new issue with games. With a constant increase in visual pleasure, there is a constant upgrade. My PC plays andromeda at a acceptible rate on ultra settings. But I know for a fact as in the clip of UE4, if a game came out like that, I'd have to upgrade.
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Post by Unicephalon 40-D on Aug 1, 2017 12:07:10 GMT
You mean the game is demanding on the graphics or have I misunderstood? I've often wondered if that's the issue since most of the problems I had were gone after I bought a new laptop... I actually mean, that so much energy, or resources(?) are put on quality of graphics, that when a game is being developed, things such as playability and flaws seem to be completely overlooked. The game being demanding on hardware is just a whole new issue with games. With a constant increase in visual pleasure, there is a constant upgrade. My PC plays andromeda at a acceptible rate on ultra settings. But I know for a fact as in the clip of UE4, if a game came out like that, I'd have to upgrade. Mostly eats memory and memory bandwidth of GPU ... a LOT. High resolution textures are still not too cheap. Add any kind of more "realistic" GI on top of that (and the normal run of the mill SSR, SSAO methods and such) you'll have "nothing is enough yet" situation, of course also depending a lot of which resolution you choose to run it
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Post by xaijin on Aug 1, 2017 12:14:04 GMT
And I dont see whats the fuss about Witcher is, just plain ordinary forests. Its not even close to the detail of MEA See its about who likes what. This! While The Witcher 3 looks nice, it certainly doesn't look like it did in the alpha-footage (you know, the Watch_Dogs-effect...). The dynamic lighting is great in TW3, but the level of detail and the textures, let alone the tesselation is technically a lot worse than MEA's... Artistically it's always a matter of opinion... lol, no. The average NPC in W3 has more bones in their head than the best hero model in MEA has in their entire body, same for base polycount, never mind tessellation, which actually doesn't exist in hero models and props for MEA. The only thing MEA can crow about is lighting, and you can certainly achieve that lighting in W3, at a huge cost to your framerate because of the LOD distance and amount of foliage casting direct unique shadows. BWM were completely out of their league, and it shows everywhere, especially animations and topology. W3 skeletons support three different kinds of blending and kinematics, MEA skeletons are apparently fished out a dumpster from behind the cancelled Muppets tv show, judging by ragdolls. Not even a fair comparison. Why would you play a 3PS with 40ms of input lag.
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Post by RonnieBlastoff on Aug 1, 2017 12:27:41 GMT
I actually mean, that so much energy, or resources(?) are put on quality of graphics, that when a game is being developed, things such as playability and flaws seem to be completely overlooked. The game being demanding on hardware is just a whole new issue with games. With a constant increase in visual pleasure, there is a constant upgrade. My PC plays andromeda at a acceptible rate on ultra settings. But I know for a fact as in the clip of UE4, if a game came out like that, I'd have to upgrade. Mostly eats memory and memory bandwidth of GPU ... a LOT. High resolution textures are still not too cheap. Add any kind of more "realistic" GI on top of that (and the normal run of the mill SSR, SSAO methods and such) you'll have "nothing is enough yet" situation, of course also depending a lot of which resolution you choose to run it By the way visuals are being churned out for games now, I almost can agree with those "conspiracy theory" types that say there are individuals who have a plan to keep a gamer constantly upgrading hardware, at least once per year or with every new big game release. I'd rather a game be fun and actually work 100% more than anything.
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Post by shinobiwan on Aug 1, 2017 12:42:31 GMT
The visuals are all over the place. The environments, armor, etc. all look great (although not much better if at all than other recent AAA titles) - seeing sandy armor in the desert with the sun beating off your back is nice.
But then the ship environments, and pretty much all of the humanoids, are hideous. In a game from a company that historically has hung its hat on character interactions and the like.
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Post by Unicephalon 40-D on Aug 1, 2017 12:50:52 GMT
This! While The Witcher 3 looks nice, it certainly doesn't look like it did in the alpha-footage (you know, the Watch_Dogs-effect...). The dynamic lighting is great in TW3, but the level of detail and the textures, let alone the tesselation is technically a lot worse than MEA's... Artistically it's always a matter of opinion... lol, no. The average NPC is W3 has more bones in their head than the best hero model in MEA has in their entire body, same for base polycount, never mind tessellation, which actually doesn't exist in hero models and props for MEA. Realtime tesselation is still a novelty and mostly just a GPU time eater, in rare cases it works ok (edge tesselation only for example). I have no idea about W3 bones or polygons, but it seems Ryders were 61k and 65k fem, male. In W2 Geralt of Rivia (Seltkirk) - 32k polys.
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Post by kaileena_sands on Aug 1, 2017 12:52:14 GMT
Yes, it's such a loss not to be able to see dat beautiful face in 4k.
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Post by RonnieBlastoff on Aug 1, 2017 13:19:45 GMT
Yes, it's such a loss not to be able to see dat beautiful face in 4k. It is, I never really took to much into the facial animations as anything besides a "placeholder" for characters. The games one true core are in the graphics, (althought not realistic, they are
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Post by Unicephalon 40-D on Aug 1, 2017 14:26:01 GMT
Yes, it's such a loss not to be able to see dat beautiful face in 4k. Oh but of course it looks like that, static, frozen in one frame where she derps? Yeah... I'm outta here.
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Post by gethadept on Aug 1, 2017 14:39:41 GMT
Looks great on my 4k 50 inch TV too.
It`s impressive that I could actually read what`s written on their armor in English.
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Post by kaileena_sands on Aug 1, 2017 14:41:10 GMT
Yes, it's such a loss not to be able to see dat beautiful face in 4k. Oh but of course it looks like that, static, frozen in one frame where she derps? Yeah... I'm outta here. If you took that stick out of your ass, maybe you could get what the overall joke was about. Also, your general quality of life would probably improve (don't quote me on that though, please contact your GP first).
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