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Post by therevanchist25 on Feb 13, 2022 15:21:23 GMT
Ah hah, the truth comes out from it's dark corner. The real reason all you psychopaths think punching people in public is a totally acceptable thing to do. Real talk though, I agree, she needed it. Why would I want to punch anyone in public? idk, thats a great question, but punching the reporter seems like The hip thing to do, as if people think that's a totally normaly, not crazy person thing to do.
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Post by talyn82 on Feb 13, 2022 21:42:48 GMT
I'm in the middle of my third playthrough of the series, and I don't remember Sarah at all in ME3. I remember Ashley mentioning her. But whatever ethnicity Ashley is I still like her.
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Post by lordmoral on Feb 13, 2022 23:53:31 GMT
Why would I want to punch anyone in public? idk, thats a great question, but punching the reporter seems like The hip thing to do, as if people think that's a totally normaly, not crazy person thing to do. That is just like people who constantly brag about letting Ash or Kaidan die as if was their pride.
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Post by therevanchist25 on Feb 14, 2022 0:32:10 GMT
I'm in the middle of my third playthrough of the series, and I don't remember Sarah at all in ME3. I remember Ashley mentioning her. But whatever ethnicity Ashley is I still like her. Yep, I was right, Sarah is white as fuck. She's Neon white. Way to go Bioware...what a stupid ass mistake, and absolute proof how little bioware gave a damn about Ashley's character.
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Post by Son of Dorn on Feb 14, 2022 1:02:45 GMT
I'm in the middle of my third playthrough of the series, and I don't remember Sarah at all in ME3. I remember Ashley mentioning her. But whatever ethnicity Ashley is I still like her. Yep, I was right, Sarah is white as fuck. She's Neon white. Way to go Bioware...what a stupid ass mistake, and absolute proof how little bioware gave a damn about Ashley's character. If it's not Bio's favourite blue waifu, then they don't care.
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Post by therevanchist25 on Feb 14, 2022 1:07:53 GMT
Yep, I was right, Sarah is white as fuck. She's Neon white. Way to go Bioware...what a stupid ass mistake, and absolute proof how little bioware gave a damn about Ashley's character. If it's not Bio's favourite blue waifu, then they don't care. whats funny about that, is Liara in ME1 is basically a cardboard cutout whos ready to bone you after 2 conversations. Ashley is actually the most fleshed out character along with Wrex in the game.
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Post by Son of Dorn on Feb 14, 2022 1:11:06 GMT
If it's not Bio's favourite blue waifu, then they don't care. whats funny about that, is Liara in ME1 is basically a cardboard cutout whos ready to bone you after 2 conversations. Ashley is actually the most fleshed out character along with Wrex in the game. Aye, she had more personally in 1. Too bad that she got shafted in 2 and 3.
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Post by lordmoral on Feb 14, 2022 1:40:23 GMT
I'm in the middle of my third playthrough of the series, and I don't remember Sarah at all in ME3. I remember Ashley mentioning her. But whatever ethnicity Ashley is I still like her. Yep, I was right, Sarah is white as fuck. She's Neon white. Way to go Bioware...what a stupid ass mistake, and absolute proof how little bioware gave a damn about Ashley's character. Modders fixed that scene:
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Post by talyn82 on Feb 14, 2022 1:49:06 GMT
I'm in the middle of my third playthrough of the series, and I don't remember Sarah at all in ME3. I remember Ashley mentioning her. But whatever ethnicity Ashley is I still like her. Yep, I was right, Sarah is white as fuck. She's Neon white. Way to go Bioware...what a stupid ass mistake, and absolute proof how little bioware gave a damn about Ashley's character. I never saw that scene but you're right there's no mistaking it Sarah is white. I'll just head canon it that Ash is adopted. I've heard how badly they handled Ash in ME3. But I did not see that clip you posted entirely I only saw 5 seconds worth. I downloaded a mod for LE3 that's suppose to restore some cut lines from the romance, and add some better camera angles. Anyway since I am Hispanic in real life, I like to think of Ash as a sassy Latina.
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Post by talyn82 on Feb 14, 2022 1:51:28 GMT
Yep, I was right, Sarah is white as fuck. She's Neon white. Way to go Bioware...what a stupid ass mistake, and absolute proof how little bioware gave a damn about Ashley's character. Modders fixed that scene: Once again Hail to the modders for fixing billion dollar companies games who are too lazy to fix themselves.
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Post by therevanchist25 on Feb 14, 2022 1:53:29 GMT
Yep, I was right, Sarah is white as fuck. She's Neon white. Way to go Bioware...what a stupid ass mistake, and absolute proof how little bioware gave a damn about Ashley's character. Modders fixed that scene: Heh, ofc Bioware cut out another emotional scene from the game. I guess ruining Anderson's last moments just wasn't enough.
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Post by therevanchist25 on Feb 14, 2022 2:04:43 GMT
Yep, I was right, Sarah is white as fuck. She's Neon white. Way to go Bioware...what a stupid ass mistake, and absolute proof how little bioware gave a damn about Ashley's character. I never saw that scene but you're right there's no mistaking it Sarah is white. I'll just head canon it that Ash is adopted. I've heard how badly they handled Ash in ME3. But I did not see that clip you posted entirely I only saw 5 seconds worth. I downloaded a mod for LE3 that's suppose to restore some cut lines from the romance, and add some better camera angles. Anyway since I am Hispanic in real life, I like to think of Ash as a sassy Latina. I find it very hard to imagine Ash being adopted, considering how her family is basically her religion. As someone said above, Her writer said she was hispanic, which makes total sense honestly. But that begs the question of her last name, which sounds Not Really Hispanic. Very bizarre situation overall. ofc, it probably wouldn't be if Bioware ever bothered to elaborate on anything not named Garrus, Tali or Liara.
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Post by turianlannister on Feb 14, 2022 2:13:11 GMT
I'm in the middle of my third playthrough of the series, and I don't remember Sarah at all in ME3. I remember Ashley mentioning her. But whatever ethnicity Ashley is I still like her. Yep, I was right, Sarah is white as fuck. She's Neon white. Way to go Bioware...what a stupid ass mistake, and absolute proof how little bioware gave a damn about Ashley's character. If bioware gave a shit about Ashley get wouldn't have made her into barbie with guns in ME3
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Post by turianlannister on Feb 14, 2022 2:16:13 GMT
I never saw that scene but you're right there's no mistaking it Sarah is white. I'll just head canon it that Ash is adopted. I've heard how badly they handled Ash in ME3. But I did not see that clip you posted entirely I only saw 5 seconds worth. I downloaded a mod for LE3 that's suppose to restore some cut lines from the romance, and add some better camera angles. Anyway since I am Hispanic in real life, I like to think of Ash as a sassy Latina. I find it very hard to imagine Ash being adopted, considering how her family is basically her religion. As someone said above, Her writer said she was hispanic, which makes total sense honestly. But that begs the question of her last name, which sounds Not Really Hispanic. Very bizarre situation overall. ofc, it probably wouldn't be if Bioware ever bothered to elaborate on anything not named Garrus, Tali or Liara. Traynor's south asian but she doesn't have a south asian name
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Post by talyn82 on Feb 14, 2022 2:58:00 GMT
I never saw that scene but you're right there's no mistaking it Sarah is white. I'll just head canon it that Ash is adopted. I've heard how badly they handled Ash in ME3. But I did not see that clip you posted entirely I only saw 5 seconds worth. I downloaded a mod for LE3 that's suppose to restore some cut lines from the romance, and add some better camera angles. Anyway since I am Hispanic in real life, I like to think of Ash as a sassy Latina. I find it very hard to imagine Ash being adopted, considering how her family is basically her religion. As someone said above, Her writer said she was hispanic, which makes total sense honestly. But that begs the question of her last name, which sounds Not Really Hispanic. Very bizarre situation overall. ofc, it probably wouldn't be if Bioware ever bothered to elaborate on anything not named Garrus, Tali or Liara. I meant to say in my head canon she is adopted. At first I thought she was half Hispanic/ half Black like former NY Yankees centerfielder Bernie Williams. But then you showed me that clip about Sarah and there's no doubt they pretty much abandoned Ash as a character. So while she looks Hispanic she's really White. But like I said before Black, White, or Hispanic it doesn't matter I like ME1 Ash the best.
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Post by therevanchist25 on Feb 14, 2022 8:27:47 GMT
I find it very hard to imagine Ash being adopted, considering how her family is basically her religion. As someone said above, Her writer said she was hispanic, which makes total sense honestly. But that begs the question of her last name, which sounds Not Really Hispanic. Very bizarre situation overall. ofc, it probably wouldn't be if Bioware ever bothered to elaborate on anything not named Garrus, Tali or Liara. I meant to say in my head canon she is adopted. At first I thought she was half Hispanic/ half Black like former NY Yankees centerfielder Bernie Williams. But then you showed me that clip about Sarah and there's no doubt they pretty much abandoned Ash as a character. So while she looks Hispanic she's really White. But like I said before Black, White, or Hispanic it doesn't matter I like ME1 Ash the best. I know man...she was really something, once...
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Post by lordmoral on Feb 14, 2022 12:24:50 GMT
I find it very hard to imagine Ash being adopted, considering how her family is basically her religion. As someone said above, Her writer said she was hispanic, which makes total sense honestly. But that begs the question of her last name, which sounds Not Really Hispanic. Very bizarre situation overall. ofc, it probably wouldn't be if Bioware ever bothered to elaborate on anything not named Garrus, Tali or Liara. I meant to say in my head canon she is adopted. At first I thought she was half Hispanic/ half Black like former NY Yankees centerfielder Bernie Williams. But then you showed me that clip about Sarah and there's no doubt they pretty much abandoned Ash as a character. So while she looks Hispanic she's really White. But like I said before Black, White, or Hispanic it doesn't matter I like ME1 Ash the best. Hispanics, or better yet Latinos, are mostly caucasians as they are European descendants. What you see with a slightly darker tone are people who descend from the Natives tribes in the Americas. We don't actually separate the groups by skin color as they are all Latinos to us. This is something a lot of nations could learn.
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Post by obbie1984 on Feb 14, 2022 15:59:50 GMT
Ashley is hispanic according to her ME1 writer Christ L'Etoile I mean...all i'll say is, I ain't never seen a caucasian woman with that nose shape. I thought she was Italian or something. It's possible. But whenever Bioware makes a minority character, they make it pretty obvious in nearly all cases. like with James Vega, Steve Cortez, Sumesh Bhathia, Emily Wong, Kasumi Goto, Tong, the Japanese lady on Noveria who says "Parasini San," etc. It's not quite as obvious with Ashley Williams. And it's not difficult to see why some people would think she is Caucasian based on her appearance. Also doesn't help with her sister as others pointed out. It's also a moot point for me because I find Ash's romance and character arc very weak into ME3 after how good it was in ME1. I was so thoroughly disappointed with it, I never save her in ME1 anymore. It also helps I think Kaidan is better overall. But let's say you are right. She would still be the only one. This is sad for a company that claims they like diversity but don't really follow it.
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Post by obbie1984 on Feb 14, 2022 16:13:40 GMT
I only care about bro Shepard. So: Maya Brooks Kasumi Emily Gianna All female human romance are Caucasian. Some variety would be nice. I'd say even Khalisa could have been more interesting than Allers. Ashley is hispanic according to her ME1 writer Christ L'Etoile Sorry, my above post was intended for you since you were the one who said this first.
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Post by lordmoral on Feb 14, 2022 16:55:45 GMT
I mean...all i'll say is, I ain't never seen a caucasian woman with that nose shape. I thought she was Italian or something. It's possible. But whenever Bioware makes a minority character, they make it pretty obvious in nearly all cases. like with James Vega, Steve Cortez, Sumesh Bhathia, Emily Wong, Kasumi Goto, Tong, the Japanese lady on Noveria who says "Parasini San," etc. It's not quite as obvious with Ashley Williams. And it's not difficult to see why some people would think she is Caucasian based on her appearance. Also doesn't help with her sister as others pointed out. It's also a moot point for me because I find Ash's romance and character arc very weak into ME3 after how good it was in ME1. I was so thoroughly disappointed with it, I never save her in ME1 anymore. It also helps I think Kaidan is better overall. But let's say you are right. She would still be the only one. This is sad for a company that claims they like diversity but don't really follow it. I personally think Bioware did tthis on intent to make less players save Ashley and if so, f--- them. Edit: who says Latinos/as cannot have white skin? Modern day Latin (from European nations composed of Spain and Portugal) habitants hail from a mixture of backgrounds.
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Post by obbie1984 on Feb 14, 2022 17:43:29 GMT
It's possible. But whenever Bioware makes a minority character, they make it pretty obvious in nearly all cases. like with James Vega, Steve Cortez, Sumesh Bhathia, Emily Wong, Kasumi Goto, Tong, the Japanese lady on Noveria who says "Parasini San," etc. It's not quite as obvious with Ashley Williams. And it's not difficult to see why some people would think she is Caucasian based on her appearance. Also doesn't help with her sister as others pointed out. It's also a moot point for me because I find Ash's romance and character arc very weak into ME3 after how good it was in ME1. I was so thoroughly disappointed with it, I never save her in ME1 anymore. It also helps I think Kaidan is better overall. But let's say you are right. She would still be the only one. This is sad for a company that claims they like diversity but don't really follow it. I personally think Bioware did tthis on intent to make less players save Ashley and if so, f--- them. Edit: who says Latinos/as cannot have white skin? Modern day Latin (from European nations composed of Spain and Portugal) habitants hail from a mixture of backgrounds. They likely didn't do it for that reason. They saw she was divisive and didn't care to write her better. No different than Jacob, only he got it way worse. Even so, more people save Ash anyway and don't give Kaidan a chance. Incorrectly labeling him as a useless squadmate or calling him bad without seeing his entire character. Most ME players are straight male, so they would rather save the hot girl than guy anyway. Not to mention your average casual ME player probably only played the games once. Surprisingly LE is more close between the two from what I remember. Indian people can also have light/fair skin and can speak without accents. Yet they are usually portrayed with darker skin and accents. Just like Sumesh. But as I said, Bioware portrays these characters either through accents, skin color, how they speak, or their names. I said it was possible Ash is Hispanic. It just doesn't appear that way initially and there are other things to suggest otherwise.
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Post by talyn82 on Feb 14, 2022 18:42:59 GMT
I meant to say in my head canon she is adopted. At first I thought she was half Hispanic/ half Black like former NY Yankees centerfielder Bernie Williams. But then you showed me that clip about Sarah and there's no doubt they pretty much abandoned Ash as a character. So while she looks Hispanic she's really White. But like I said before Black, White, or Hispanic it doesn't matter I like ME1 Ash the best. Hispanics, or better yet Latinos, are mostly caucasians as they are European descendants. What you see with a slightly darker tone are people who descend from the Natives tribes in the Americas. We don't actually separate the groups by skin color as they are all Latinos to us. This is something a lot of nations could learn. I know brother, I am half Cuban/ half Puerto Rican our ancestors we are a mix of Taino (Ta-EE-no), Spaniard, and African. I am light skin myself but many Cuban/Puerto Ricans vary in skin color. But yeah you are correct.
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Post by lordmoral on Feb 14, 2022 22:50:33 GMT
Hispanics, or better yet Latinos, are mostly caucasians as they are European descendants. What you see with a slightly darker tone are people who descend from the Natives tribes in the Americas. We don't actually separate the groups by skin color as they are all Latinos to us. This is something a lot of nations could learn. I know brother, I am half Cuban/ half Puerto Rican our ancestors we are a mix of Taino (Ta-EE-no), Spaniard, and African. I am light skin myself but many Cuban/Puerto Ricans vary in skin color. But yeah you are correct. It is nice to see another neighbor from the Caribbean enjoy these games, I am from Puerto Rico (US) and I enjoyed hearing she is half hispanic.
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Post by lordmoral on Feb 14, 2022 22:51:15 GMT
I personally think Bioware did tthis on intent to make less players save Ashley and if so, f--- them. Edit: who says Latinos/as cannot have white skin? Modern day Latin (from European nations composed of Spain and Portugal) habitants hail from a mixture of backgrounds. They likely didn't do it for that reason. They saw she was divisive and didn't care to write her better. No different than Jacob, only he got it way worse. Even so, more people save Ash anyway and don't give Kaidan a chance. Incorrectly labeling him as a useless squadmate or calling him bad without seeing his entire character. Most ME players are straight male, so they would rather save the hot girl than guy anyway. Not to mention your average casual ME player probably only played the games once. Surprisingly LE is more close between the two from what I remember. Indian people can also have light/fair skin and can speak without accents. Yet they are usually portrayed with darker skin and accents. Just like Sumesh. But as I said, Bioware portrays these characters either through accents, skin color, how they speak, or their names. I said it was possible Ash is Hispanic. It just doesn't appear that way initially and there are other things to suggest otherwise. That is a lame excuse, those are the characters that are better to develop.
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Post by talyn82 on Feb 14, 2022 23:15:55 GMT
I know brother, I am half Cuban/ half Puerto Rican our ancestors we are a mix of Taino (Ta-EE-no), Spaniard, and African. I am light skin myself but many Cuban/Puerto Ricans vary in skin color. But yeah you are correct. It is nice to see another neighbor from the Caribbean enjoy these games, I am from Puerto Rico (US) and I enjoyed hearing she is half hispanic. A fellow Puerto Rican although I was born in Brooklyn, NY, but my mother was born and raised on the island. Even though my father was born and raised in Cuba, when Castro came to power he and his family fled to Puerto Rico. He was 13 years old at the time. But yeah I too enjoy hearing she's Hispanic, I just never put it together because in reality I don't pay attention to skin tone. Plus her last name through me off.
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