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Post by Kelwing on Aug 20, 2017 5:10:48 GMT
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Post by rolenka on Aug 20, 2017 5:45:46 GMT
I guess it's good I just started a new character in SWTOR. For those not aware most of the content can now be soloed...including most Flashpoints and even some operations. Don't worry "MUH RAID REWARDS" people, the reward from group versions are still better. I'll come back when they reintroduce fully voiced class stories to the game. I have googled what was up with swtor every year or so, hoping to find something to pull me back. It sort of looks like they are done adding things and are merging servers. Not a great time to get reinvested in the game.
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Post by kikkai on Aug 20, 2017 6:13:44 GMT
I don't really care much about Quarians (as in, I'm not a talimancer), but the story of the Quarians is pretty interesting and I would have paid and maybe actually played SP if they made the dlc.
I just need my glorious Batarian Soldier and bubble Asari back.
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Post by ProbeAway on Aug 20, 2017 6:50:08 GMT
Very disappointing, but not unexpected. I wish EA had backed Edmonton to save some face with a quality DLC but it was probably a bit much to expect them to take the gamble.
It just makes me shake my head how many people are actually happy that there is no DLC. It's like they can't handle others finding enjoyment in something they dislike. That is next level sad.
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Post by warrior on Aug 20, 2017 7:02:11 GMT
Another thought...and you can reply to me or not, I'm not going to waste time arguing with people over this. On the one hand I am very sad to see the death of what is probably my most favorite game franchise ever. But on the other, I'm happy that Bioware took a hard hit because of the level of preaching their politics in their games they have reached. They couldn't make Foster Addison not look like a creature from your worst nightmare or Cora not walk like an ape...but they damn sure shoveled in their trans character, their multiple gay characters, and diversity in that most of the leaders or strong people were female. Of course there are other things too...but most people remaining here are blind to it anyway and will just use this post as an excuse to virtue signal anyway.
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Post by Fredward on Aug 20, 2017 7:26:00 GMT
Genuinely disappointing but the writing's been on the wall for a while for people not to busy yelling "FAKE NEWS!" at stuff they didn't wanna hear.
I'm genuinely concerned for what this augers for Bioware's longterm future as a primarily single-player RPG dev though.
Oh well, at least we'll have Minrathous.
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Post by Qolx on Aug 20, 2017 7:31:27 GMT
Another thought...and you can reply to me or not, I'm not going to waste time arguing with people over this. On the one hand I am very sad to see the death of what is probably my most favorite game franchise ever. But on the other, I'm happy that Bioware took a hard hit because of the level of preaching their politics in their games they have reached. They couldn't make Foster Addison not look like a creature from your worst nightmare or Cora not walk like an ape...but they damn sure shoveled in their trans character, their multiple gay characters, and diversity in that most of the leaders or strong people were female. Of course there are other things too...but most people remaining here are blind to it anyway and will just use this post as an excuse to virtue signal anyway. Triggered!
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Post by lennybusker on Aug 20, 2017 7:44:10 GMT
I'll never forgive BioWare management for killing my favorite franchise like this. Gave it to a rookie squad who clearly wasn't up for the task. Meanwhile The Division's year two is looking pretty good and Destiny 2 is going to fly off the shelves, so unless Anthem has world-shattering gameplay it's going to be dead in the water on launch. It'll be the Windows Phone of the Destivision genre (Anthevisiony? I'll work on this.) Might as well label this comic 2018. static.giantbomb.com/uploads/original/0/2610/2161667-zFrTB.jpg
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Post by Phalaenopsis on Aug 20, 2017 7:48:06 GMT
I feel so bashed out waking up to this! It wasn't unexpected as many of you have said but yet, I still had hope due to all the cliffhangers about the Quarians, Mummy Ryder getting potentially cured, the Jardaans and the mysterious Benefactor...
Personally I couldn't care less about multiplayer. I play BW games for their story content (plus my internet connection is sooo slow here MP is unplayable...). I feel let down. More than let down: as I've just said, I PLAY BioWare GAMES. Reading books or comics on the different franchises is just icing on the cake. As a PLAYER I feel insulted I won't be able to solve those cliffhangers 1st handedly, with my Ryder(s), my choices.
Sorry if I sound a bit radical there...Just had to let it out. I'm so disappointed. Guess I'll go uninstall.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 20, 2017 7:56:04 GMT
Damn this hurt. I felt like a truck hit me at top speed. I always hoped for at least at minimum a single DLC on the Quarians but I guess we will have to buy a novel to find it out. I love the Quarians so I think I'll end up buying that novel but I'm very disappointed because that's prime gaming material went to waste. No disrespect to the author of the novel intended, I mean I would have preferred the issue to be solved in the game. That's it.
I'm not sure how to feel on this. MEA is the first game from quite a while that have not received any DLC. Let's not lie to ourselves this is a crystal clear signal that it didn't sell well albeit many of us (me included) believed the situation was better than this. Clearly I was wrong but sadly can't understand why some people overjoyed over them being right about this. Failing of a franchise isn't something I definitly would want to be right about.
So what will the future holds for ME? Hudson and Gamble made it quite clear that it is their intention to return back to the franchise after all it is Casey's baby. I believe EA hasn't lost hope on ME as it is still a great franchise to make profit from them, it should be given to the experienced team though to succeed. Sadly this MEA controversy and the shutting down of Montreal studio means logically that we are not going to see a new ME for a long time as both Edmonton and Austin have probably their hands full on other projects. Maybe after DA4 completed its developing cycle they'll start work on the next ME game. I think though this pause is necessary and important to re-evaluate the franchise and where they should go from there to move on.
A couple of personal considerations as a fan which would make me happy for ME:
- This is a prime opportunity to release a HD remaster of the old trilogy as it would create some easy profit for the company and would rekindle the passion of its fans for the franchise. It will also serve to buy additional time to plan the next proper ME game.
- When a new ME is released they should be considering if continuing in Andromeda is a viable decision. I would love if they continue Ryder story but I love this franchise as a whole more than the single story in itself, so if they feel that forgetting about Andromeda to start anew in the MW is better for the franchise I wouldn't object this. Ultimately they should tell the story they want to tell and make it good.
- If they decide to return to the MW a couple of considerations are necessary. A sequel of Shepard trilogy is unlikely because they don't want to canonize any ending although I personally wouldn't oppose it. Clearly I'd favor Destroy but if they can create a good story from others ending then I would be ok with. Still this is very unlikely.
-The other alternative is doing a prequel or midquel of the events happening on MET. This though would create a totally different game with a smaller and personal story which is not about saving the world. I'm not opposed to it but I don't see BW doing something like that. It will be difficult to surpass the deeds of Shepard and would need to be a quite enjoyable experience but in all honesty I'm quite fed up with Reapers and indoctrination so it should really be able to offer a fresh perspective on the old MW to be really engaging. Same goes for a prequel, shooting Turians all the day would become quite annoying considering I know them and like them quite a lot.
- The last option is a reboot of the franchise. I'm not opposed to this in principle but we have to understand what we intend with reboot here. If reboot means changing the established races lore, appearance and everything that made us love them in the first place then I would advise them to make a new sci-fi franchise and be done with it. Hard-reboots would absolutely destroy the franchise for me. I would have a game called ME with nothing on it reminding of what I appreciated of this franchise. I'm absolutely open for a soft-reboot which means keep the basic skeleton of the races, lore and appearance but modify completely the story, context and politics of it to tell us a different story in the MW galaxy. It's quite tricky but can be done.
We shall see what the future holds for ME.
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Post by therevanchist25 on Aug 20, 2017 8:03:35 GMT
While this is not the least bit surprising to me, having played the game myself... I must confess I am still incredibly disappointed, to see what was once my all time favorite franchise, that I loved in ways I never knew were possible, to be reduced to this state. I guess I can thank ME3 for one thing, for making me numb to heartbreak and disappointment a long time ago, so this announcement does not truly hurt.
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Post by yan on Aug 20, 2017 8:07:56 GMT
Okay, Bioware already had their fun. Can we please go back to the milky way now?
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Post by roivas on Aug 20, 2017 8:08:56 GMT
Well I hope that ME franchise is not dead. Going to skip Anthem, pretty sure they are killing ME for that franchise, so not going to buy it, hopefully they will be back fast on ME if it doesn't sell *.*
Now I hope next DA will come soon & that it will be good >.<
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Post by haolyn on Aug 20, 2017 8:11:16 GMT
I pretty much called this exact situation would happen when the batarian dropped. However, I assumed DLC was planned but then cancelled and they were repurposing assets in MP, but this part of their announcement suggests otherwise:
So am I reading this right? They planned to expand the story through multiplayer FROM THE START? Even if MEA was a critical/financial success there would have been no single player DLC?
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Post by sil on Aug 20, 2017 8:14:26 GMT
I pretty much called this exact situation would happen when the batarian dropped. However, I assumed DLC was planned but then cancelled and they were repurposing assets in MP, but this part of their announcement suggests otherwise: So am I reading this right? They planned to expand the story through multiplayer FROM THE START? Even if MEA was a critical/financial success there would have been no single player DLC? That's the way they're phrasing it, but that's bollocks. It's a PR method of making it feel less of a blow than it is by making it appear more like "business as usual". The game was clearly set up for DLC, majorly set up for it in the case of the Quarian Ark.
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Post by haolyn on Aug 20, 2017 8:16:10 GMT
I pretty much called this exact situation would happen when the batarian dropped. However, I assumed DLC was planned but then cancelled and they were repurposing assets in MP, but this part of their announcement suggests otherwise: So am I reading this right? They planned to expand the story through multiplayer FROM THE START? Even if MEA was a critical/financial success there would have been no single player DLC? That's the way they're phrasing it, but that's bollocks. It's a PR method of making it feel less of a blow than it is by making it appear more like "business as usual". The game was clearly set up for DLC, majorly set up for it in the case of the Quarian Ark. What if the Quarian ark stuff in the game is just a primer for a multiplayer mission?
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Post by sil on Aug 20, 2017 8:19:04 GMT
That's the way they're phrasing it, but that's bollocks. It's a PR method of making it feel less of a blow than it is by making it appear more like "business as usual". The game was clearly set up for DLC, majorly set up for it in the case of the Quarian Ark. What if the Quarian ark stuff in the game is just a primer for a multiplayer mission? It wouldn't be. That'd be like Aria sitting on the Purgatory couch being a primer for an Omega MP mission. The Quarian ark was going to be dlc. Remember, all Bioware games for the past decade have had DLC, and after ME1 and DA:O they've had a plan in place for their DLC. DLC is a major part of business in games now, they tend to pre-plan what they will be making. I highly doubt Ryders mother, the Benefactor and the Quarian Ark are MP teases. And if you're right and the quarian ark stuff is for MP, then they would be pushing the boat out much more on that in the announcement, making it clear that you'll save the quarians through MP rather than through a book.
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Post by KaiserShep on Aug 20, 2017 8:22:21 GMT
That's the way they're phrasing it, but that's bollocks. It's a PR method of making it feel less of a blow than it is by making it appear more like "business as usual". The game was clearly set up for DLC, majorly set up for it in the case of the Quarian Ark. What if the Quarian ark stuff in the game is just a primer for a multiplayer mission? That would be good reason to hate MP's inclusion in BioWare games.
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Post by Xerxes52 on Aug 20, 2017 8:26:17 GMT
Unfortunate, but not unexpected.
Well, I still have a second play through to finish anyway, still on Elaaden I think.
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Post by merlinistyle on Aug 20, 2017 8:29:06 GMT
So.. this is it, isnt it..
At least, we have as answer.. at last.
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Post by JokeDealer on Aug 20, 2017 8:31:04 GMT
I have two things to say and I will try to be brief.
1) This isn't necessarily the end of Mass Effect as a franchise. Needless to say, this isn't good for the series overall, but there is a chance it could return. There are still books and comics coming. If those sell well, then it shows EA that there is still interest in the franchise. Then again, I could be totally wrong.
2) Although EA and Bioware are equally at fault, we fans need to acknowledge the role we played in this. To borrow some words from Bioware Follower on YouTube, the response to Andromeda's quality was disproportionate and vitriolic. The game was not perfect by any means, but there was a volatile overreaction from fans. Bioware and EA made mistakes, both in terms of development and public response to criticism, but we are at fault too. The worst part is, I know someone is reading is and thinking that the response was justified, but it wasn't.
Mass Effect has been a controversial title since the ending of Mass Effect 3. It's rare for an article to mention Mass Effect without referencing this fact. Even to this day, there are still people who aren't satisfied with Bioware's response. If Andromeda was lacking in resources or pushed on a B-Team of developers, that was entirely EA's call. However, they made that call based on one simple fact -- it was the smarter business move. I ask everyone, regardless of emotional reactions or bias, which game would be the smarter thing to invest more heavily in? Mass Effect, the game with a controversial past, or Anthem, a new IP that has the potential to attract old and new fans alike. When the reaction to Mass Effect 3's ending was so volatile and remains that way to some extent, it's a no-brainer.
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Post by zigosid on Aug 20, 2017 8:35:30 GMT
RIP Bioware and don't expect me to buy your @!%*@ Destiny 2.5 for whom ME was sacrificied.
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Post by haolyn on Aug 20, 2017 8:36:00 GMT
What if the Quarian ark stuff in the game is just a primer for a multiplayer mission? It wouldn't be. That'd be like Aria sitting on the Purgatory couch being a primer for an Omega MP mission. The Quarian ark was going to be dlc. Remember, all Bioware games for the past decade have had DLC, and after ME1 and DA:O they've had a plan in place for their DLC. DLC is a major part of business in games now, they tend to pre-plan what they will be making. I highly doubt Ryders mother, the Benefactor and the Quarian Ark are MP teases. And if you're right and the quarian ark stuff is for MP, then they would be pushing the boat out much more on that in the announcement, making it clear that you'll save the quarians through MP rather than through a book. Bioware are now developing a new IP entirely focused on multiplayer. All previous games have had DLC, but Bioware was much more focused on single player then than they are now. You've got the EA survey asking about multiplayer, and despite the fact that the Montreal team was disbanded the MP team was kept intact. They are clearly prioritizing MP. The Benefactor, the Remnant and the Kett are much bigger storylines than the Quarian Ark, they are intended to be sequel hooks since they can't be simply solved in a DLC unless it's a huge one. To put it another way, there's just no way DLC was cancelled halfway through development just because of MEA's reception, that would be wasted money. So SP DLC was never planned. And yet you have the Quarian Ark tease in the game. So they did plan to have something Quarian related. Plus all further teases about the Quarian Ark so far have been in MP briefings. You also have the batarian who was introduced in MP but not SP and his lore explained in a blog post. It's not a huge stretch to imagine the same was planned to happen with the Quarians and their lore will be handled in novels and comics. And for what it's worth, Jason Schreier's sources mention that no DLC was planned, not that it was cancelled. DLC is a huge part of business now, but MP is FAR bigger. I expect the MP team will announce a Quarian multiplayer addition when the novel comes out. They are teasing an MP announcement in the blog post and plans for N7 day. Honestly I wouldn't be surprised if MEA was always intended as a test drive for a MP driven game, to prepare people for Anthem.
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Post by vonuber on Aug 20, 2017 8:40:28 GMT
It's telling that they haven't even released the equivalent of Horse Armour DLC.
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