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Post by OdanUrr on Aug 20, 2017 1:00:53 GMT
So we don't get to cure our mom; we don't get to find out what Cerb-I mean "someone" was after by killing Jien Garson; and we don't get to save the Quarians. This may be unfair but next time, BioWare, don't leave the loose ends for DLC. I was far more invested in curing Ryder's mom than I ever was in killing the Archon. Yeah I love how they resolved the least interesting part of the story in-game and then leave the rest to books. LOL. I don't want to play games that need to be finished by books. I make an exception for KotOR and The Sith Lords.
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Post by xassantex on Aug 20, 2017 1:01:21 GMT
well that is a real shame. Here i was, 15$ in my hands ready to go.
N7 day, what could they release of any value then ? MP stuff? i already find the multiplayer a jumble of nonsense driven by some schizoid AI . And they just keep adding more. Anyway.
I will play the SP some more to complete all classes and then i'll probably toss it where dreams go to die.
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Post by sageoflife on Aug 20, 2017 1:04:11 GMT
His utterly immature, and in at least one instance borderline criminal, behavior towards his skeptics might have something to do with that. Criminal? I sincerely doubt that.
But in any case I bet this could be said in regards to the people that attacked him as well.
But I digress, in a normal situation, normal people would react to a story like this however they will, and then they will move on. To say that the reactions to his story were heated would be an understatement. He felt under attack, and responded by attacking back, escalation ensued.
I don't care about all that personally, I care about news, and I care about reporters that prove to be reliable at finding and reporting on said news.
No one here incited cyberharrasment against Jason. He very much did incite cyberharrasment against people here.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 20, 2017 1:07:46 GMT
Well that sucks big time i did have hope there wood be story dlc now i just feel sad.
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Post by krazyguy on Aug 20, 2017 1:11:18 GMT
Really sad to hear, was hoping for dlc. I really liked Mass Effect Andromeda, had a lot of flaws, it was rough but I liked it... If they ever do decide to change their mind I'd buy dlc no problem but oh well. I hope Mass Effect continues. Still excited for Dragon Age and Anthem, hope they learned and release a more polished work and don't do this again.
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Post by suikoden on Aug 20, 2017 1:11:49 GMT
Thanks for that quality sperg. You're an object lesson in how not to post on a fan forum. The fecal matter oozing from my monitor into my evening nightcap that you call a "post" is astounding. I've seen chimpanzees at the zoo do better with nothing but a bit of straw and some poop. You're welcome
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Post by sageoflife on Aug 20, 2017 1:13:35 GMT
No one here incited cyberharrasment against Jason. He very much did incite cyberharrasment against people here. I don't know, I saw some comments here about him that sounded like violent threats. (probably not credible, but still, if we are comparing victimhood)
And I don't think what he did was actually inciting harassment. What was it, he posted a screen grab with a username that he didn't delete? I wouldn't call that harassment.
In any case, that's irrelevant to me. He is a credible reporter when it comes to things of this nature, he has proven himself in the past, and was proven right yet again. So yes, I'm certainly going to give further stories from him all due attention.
Sharing those screenshots with his Twitter followers for the purpose of mocking anyone who didn't take his word as gospel was crossing the line into inciting harassment. Even if he did end up being right, his juvenile behavior has severely damage his reputations.
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Post by suikoden on Aug 20, 2017 1:15:35 GMT
Criminal? I sincerely doubt that.
But in any case I bet this could be said in regards to the people that attacked him as well.
But I digress, in a normal situation, normal people would react to a story like this however they will, and then they will move on. To say that the reactions to his story were heated would be an understatement. He felt under attack, and responded by attacking back, escalation ensued.
I don't care about all that personally, I care about news, and I care about reporters that prove to be reliable at finding and reporting on said news.
No one here incited cyberharrasment against Jason. He very much did incite cyberharrasment against people here. After he was defamed and slandered. Because people didn't like what he wrote.
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Post by sageoflife on Aug 20, 2017 1:17:14 GMT
No one here incited cyberharrasment against Jason. He very much did incite cyberharrasment against people here. After he was defamed and slandered. Because people didn't like what he wrote. Asking who his sources are and why they should be considered credible is slander and defamation now?
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Post by sageoflife on Aug 20, 2017 1:18:28 GMT
Sharing those screenshots with his Twitter followers for the purpose of mocking anyone who didn't take his word as gospel was crossing the line into inciting harassment. Even if he did end up being right, his juvenile behavior has severely damage his reputations. I disagree, this isn't harassment. This is a response to people talking shit on the internet. When you say something on someone on the internet, that person has a right to respond without getting blamed for "harassment".
Whether he should have responded or whether it was smart to do so is a moot point. His credibility only came out of this story looking better in all due honesty.
It wasn't harassment from Jason himself, but it was inciting others to commit harassment. There are plenty of better ways to respond that wouldn't have made him look like a tantruming bully.
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Post by suikoden on Aug 20, 2017 1:20:13 GMT
I don't know, I saw some comments here about him that sounded like violent threats. (probably not credible, but still, if we are comparing victimhood)
And I don't think what he did was actually inciting harassment. What was it, he posted a screen grab with a username that he didn't delete? I wouldn't call that harassment.
In any case, that's irrelevant to me. He is a credible reporter when it comes to things of this nature, he has proven himself in the past, and was proven right yet again. So yes, I'm certainly going to give further stories from him all due attention.
Sharing those screenshots with his Twitter followers for the purpose of mocking anyone who didn't take his word as gospel was crossing the line into inciting harassment. Even if he did end up being right, his juvenile behavior has severely damage his reputations. The only people that will remember any of that are on this forum. There's no law against taking screenshots of forum users using made-up names. If people can freely post/identify all the alt-right protestors and spread their info all over the internet, screenshotting some forum posts is literally nothing. Nothing. It just feels good to have something you can go after him for now that it turns out he was 100% right about every single thing he reported on.
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Post by suikoden on Aug 20, 2017 1:21:58 GMT
After he was defamed and slandered. Because people didn't like what he wrote. Asking who his sources are and why they should be considered credible is slander and defamation now? Oh, is that all people ever posted about him? Talk about looking through rose-coloured glasses.
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Post by sageoflife on Aug 20, 2017 1:22:41 GMT
Sharing those screenshots with his Twitter followers for the purpose of mocking anyone who didn't take his word as gospel was crossing the line into inciting harassment. Even if he did end up being right, his juvenile behavior has severely damage his reputations. The only people that will remember any of that are on this forum. There's no law against taking screenshots of forum users using made-up names. If people can freely post/identify all the alt-right protestors and spread their info all over the internet, screenshotting some forum posts is literally nothing. Nothing. It just feels good to have something you can go after him for now that it turns out he was 100% right about every single thing he reported on. Right, so you think it was perfectly okay for him to incite people to commit cyberharassment against people who had the gall not to take his word as gospel. It wasn't harassment from Jason himself, but it was inciting others to commit harassment. There are plenty of better ways to respond that wouldn't have made him look like a tantruming bully. I don't think so. He had a right to respond, and he didn't call for others to harass anyone. He is only responsible for his own actions. And there are plenty of ways that he could have responded that would have made him look like a professional instead of a tantruming child because there were people who wouldn't believe every word he said.
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Post by LordGunSmith90 on Aug 20, 2017 1:23:09 GMT
This is a real shame.
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Post by colfoley on Aug 20, 2017 1:28:07 GMT
still if EA won't throw money at Dlc i doubt they will for a FULL GAME. ME is very damaged goods right now. They did after Dragon Age II's poor reception. The fact is that a full game has a very different cost-benefit ratio than DLC. I suppose that's a good point. After all they did cut their losses and move on with a much better product. However, under no circumstances is this news good. And yes the game may come back in some form later on down the line, full reboot, soft reboot, sequel to Andromeda, I personally highly doubt it after this news or at the very least we would see such a thing any time soon. Still though, at least imo ME finally went out on a high note rather than the compromised note ME 3 went out on. still if EA won't throw money at Dlc i doubt they will for a FULL GAME. ME is very damaged goods right now. Exactly. The franchise is dead. It doesn't matter how many plot threads were left unanswered and how poorly a comic will do so. If there is not enough money to be made in answering them -- and we've learned that general profit is not enuogh, it must be super-extra-mega-profit -- they won't do it. These suits are in the business of getting rich and making others rich; they really don't give a shit. Personally, as you can see, I blame EA for the death of the franchise. I still blame ME 3 lol. *** You know its actually kind of funny what this news does with my personal relationship with EA and BioWare. I still trust them, I trust them from a creative standpoint. They are clearly capable of delivering high quality products. HOWEVER its hard to trust them from a business standpoint because it is kind of clear, there was a lot of stringing along by EA...and now, its officially dead. *shrugs* Not going to stop buying BioWare games, especially DA 4...but this is annoying.
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Post by sageoflife on Aug 20, 2017 1:28:18 GMT
And there are plenty of ways that he could have responded that would have made him look like a professional instead of a tantruming child because there were people who wouldn't believe every word he said. You are allowed to call him a child if you want, but he's allowed to respond as he wants. Again, this isn't harassment. It was inciting harassment, and at best it made him look completely unprofessional.
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Post by llandwynwyn on Aug 20, 2017 1:28:39 GMT
Multiplayer is where the money is for BW. Player count is faarrr higher on multiplayer than singleplayer. A logical decision. If this game MP was generating money, they'd continue making dlc (MP) for it for a while. If DLC isn't worth it for them to make... do you really think a sequel would be? It was for Dragon Age II after they cancelled the expansion. DAII was financially successful.
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Post by suikoden on Aug 20, 2017 1:29:29 GMT
The only people that will remember any of that are on this forum. There's no law against taking screenshots of forum users using made-up names. If people can freely post/identify all the alt-right protestors and spread their info all over the internet, screenshotting some forum posts is literally nothing. Nothing. It just feels good to have something you can go after him for now that it turns out he was 100% right about every single thing he reported on. Right, so you think it was perfectly okay for him to incite people to commit cyberharassment against people who had the gall not to take his word as gospel. I don't think so. He had a right to respond, and he didn't call for others to harass anyone. He is only responsible for his own actions. And there are plenty of ways that he could have responded that would have made him look like a professional instead of a tantruming child because there were people who wouldn't believe every word he said. There were multiple threads, with probably hundreds of posts of people talking shit about him that went far beyond questioning the accuracy of his sources. He spent 2 minutes making fun of you on twitter where all of 8 people retweeted his post. You make it sound like he got you all blacklisted at Hop Sing's.
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Post by sageoflife on Aug 20, 2017 1:29:47 GMT
Multiplayer is where the money is for BW. Player count is faarrr higher on multiplayer than singleplayer. A logical decision. If this game MP was generating money, they'd continue making dlc (MP) for it for a while. It was for Dragon Age II after they cancelled the expansion. DAII was financially successful. So was Andromeda, just not as much as they wanted it to be, and not enough for the cost-benefit ratio of DLC to be worth it.
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Post by fchopin on Aug 20, 2017 1:30:56 GMT
Sad news but it was expected. This is also very sad for Mass Effect as it could be the end.
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Post by Daft Arbiter on Aug 20, 2017 1:32:52 GMT
still if EA won't throw money at Dlc i doubt they will for a FULL GAME. ME is very damaged goods right now. Exactly. The franchise is dead. It doesn't matter how many plot threads were left unanswered and how poorly a comic will do so. If there is not enough money to be made in answering them -- and we've learned that general profit is not enuogh, it must be super-extra-mega-profit -- they won't do it. These suits are in the business of getting rich and making others rich; they really don't give a shit. Personally, as you can see, I blame EA for the death of the franchise. It's a video game franchise. Video game franchises don't die; one just goes dormant until a developer is given the orders to work on it again. It might be 4 years, or 8 years, or even 15 years, but the closest thing to a franchise dying is when the rights are split up between multiple non-affiliated entities, and that's not the case here, as far as I know.
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Post by llandwynwyn on Aug 20, 2017 1:35:46 GMT
If this game MP was generating money, they'd continue making dlc (MP) for it for a while. DAII was financially successful. So was Andromeda, just not as much as they wanted it to be, and not enough for the cost-benefit ratio of DLC to be worth it. It that was true, there would be DLC. The writing is on the wall dude.
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Post by armass81 on Aug 20, 2017 1:36:48 GMT
So this is how the andromeda saga ends pretty much for us fans...
Such a waste...
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Post by sageoflife on Aug 20, 2017 1:39:09 GMT
So was Andromeda, just not as much as they wanted it to be, and not enough for the cost-benefit ratio of DLC to be worth it. It that was true, there would be DLC. The writing is on the wall dude. Maybe, maybe not. Anything about sequels is pure speculation at this point.
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Post by suikoden on Aug 20, 2017 1:40:38 GMT
It that was true, there would be DLC. The writing is on the wall dude. Maybe, maybe not. Anything about sequels is pure speculation at this point. Sonic Chronicles 2 is more likely at this point.
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