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Post by dutchsghost7 on Aug 20, 2017 3:31:40 GMT
Remember when I was nagging about the lack of proper gameplay videos and demos? Doctored gameplay trailers don't count.
We never received a proper reveal of how the game played until it released in ea access.
I just recently booted up MEA and it's even more buggier than the last time I played it. Coupled that with the fact that Bioware no longer wants to update the game or add DLC what conclusion can I come up with other than this game shouldn't have ever been released?
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Post by Qolx on Aug 20, 2017 3:32:41 GMT
Inevitable in retrospect.
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Post by Revan Reborn on Aug 20, 2017 3:34:07 GMT
Hi dutch. I was wondering where you've been.
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Post by dutchsghost7 on Aug 20, 2017 3:36:27 GMT
Inevitable in retrospect. Back then I was worried about the lack of gameplay. People on here used the excuse that Bioware didn't want to reveal much and wanted to surprise us. They sure surprised us.
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Post by dutchsghost7 on Aug 20, 2017 3:37:05 GMT
Hi dutch. I was wondering where you've been. Yes, I'm here to discuss about the recent news. I've also contributed to your thread revan.
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Post by smilesja on Aug 20, 2017 3:39:54 GMT
Hi Dutch.
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Post by Qolx on Aug 20, 2017 3:41:34 GMT
Inevitable in retrospect. Back then I was worried about the lack of gameplay. People on here used the excuse that Bioware didn't want to reveal much and wanted to surprise us. They sure surprised us. Back then I was telling people on reddit they should be cautious before purchasing. I know when I'm about to be served a turd burger. All the pre-release signs for Andro screamed crap game. I knew this shitshow was coming. Didn't even get a cookie...
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Post by bigbad on Aug 20, 2017 3:44:29 GMT
It seems that Marauder Shields was trying to warn us about this too. It's a pity that I did not heed him.
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Post by dutchsghost7 on Aug 20, 2017 3:44:33 GMT
Back then I was worried about the lack of gameplay. People on here used the excuse that Bioware didn't want to reveal much and wanted to surprise us. They sure surprised us. Back then I was telling people on reddit they should be cautious before purchasing. I know when I'm about to be served a turd burger. All the pre-release signs for Andro screamed crap game. I knew this shitshow was coming. Didn't even get a cookie... The writing was on the wall frankly. Still despite what people here think on how I feel about Bioware I had hopes for them to succeed. They didn't, at least I got my cookie in the game though.
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Post by isaidlunch on Aug 20, 2017 3:47:45 GMT
There were gameplay videos though, it was videos on everything else that was lacking. The Peebee mission and gameplay series videos were definitely before EA access.
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Post by dutchsghost7 on Aug 20, 2017 3:50:12 GMT
There were gameplay videos though, it was videos on everything else that was lacking. The Peebee mission and gameplay series videos were definitely before EA access. Those were doctored compilation footage of 2 min videos. Stop spreading fake news on here.
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Post by Revan Reborn on Aug 20, 2017 4:01:53 GMT
Yes, I'm here to discuss about the recent news. I've also contributed to your thread revan. For the sake of "contribution," the game should have been delayed until it was in a passable state for release. There's strong evidence to suggest most of the game was made in the last year and a half of development. It is unreasonable to believe any studio, in such a short amount of time, can deliver a game so ambitious and with little to no issues in that time frame. It was an absolute disaster waiting to happen, and the blame goes with the BioWare leadership. I don't know who's call it was to release the game in the state that it was, but it may have doomed the franchise's future. At the very least, it's assured we won't be seeing anything Mass Effect-related for a very long time.
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Post by dutchsghost7 on Aug 20, 2017 4:04:40 GMT
Yes, I'm here to discuss about the recent news. I've also contributed to your thread revan. For the sake of "contribution," the game should have been delayed until it was in a passable state for release. There's strong evidence to suggest most of the game was made in the last year and a half of development. It is unreasonable to believe any studio, in such a short amount of time, can deliver a game so ambitious and with little to no issues in that time frame. It was an absolute disaster waiting to happen, and the blame goes with the BioWare leadership. I don't know who's call it was to release the game in the state that it was, but it may have doomed the franchise's future. At the very least, it's assured we won't be seeing anything Mass Effect-related for a very long time. Agreed. And Bioware will likely drop mass Effect for Star Wars. SAD.
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Post by warrior on Aug 20, 2017 4:04:48 GMT
Yes, I'm here to discuss about the recent news. I've also contributed to your thread revan. For the sake of "contribution," the game should have been delayed until it was in a passable state for release. There's strong evidence to suggest most of the game was made in the last year and a half of development. It is unreasonable to believe any studio, in such a short amount of time, can deliver a game so ambitious and with little to no issues in that time frame. It was an absolute disaster waiting to happen, and the blame goes with the BioWare leadership. I don't know who's call it was to release the game in the state that it was, but it may have doomed the franchise's future. At the very least, it's assured we won't be seeing anything Mass Effect-related for a very long time. I think it was likely EA higher-ups that made that awful decision, not BW folks
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Post by isaidlunch on Aug 20, 2017 4:10:16 GMT
There were gameplay videos though, it was videos on everything else that was lacking. The Peebee mission and gameplay series videos were definitely before EA access. Those were doctored compilation footage of 2 min videos. Stop spreading fake news on here. No, the gameplay videos were quite thorough and even showed issues with the combat like the bad squad AI and enemies moonwalking. I remember this very well since I was hoping we'd see gay sex in the marketing and all we got was boring combat.
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Post by armass81 on Aug 20, 2017 4:10:53 GMT
I expected them to have some balls...
Not just pack up and throw their hands in the air when theres one mediocre game in a good series, and jump the fence...
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Post by suikoden on Aug 20, 2017 4:14:20 GMT
I expected them to have some balls...
Not just pack up and throw thie hands in the air when theres one mediocre game in a good series...
That's why for many people, Bioware died when they sold out to EA. Because they no longer have direct control.
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Post by Revan Reborn on Aug 20, 2017 4:15:59 GMT
I think it was likely EA higher-ups that made that awful decision, not BW folks EA may have been the ones to force BioWare to ultimately release the game (they do have to make a certain amount of money every fiscal year), but you also have to realize the game had been in development hell for five years and was even delayed six months. EA gave BioWare every opportunity in the world to do something with this game. Andromeda had a longer development cycle than any previous BioWare game. It's easy to blame the publisher, but this one falls to BioWare. They didn't have proper guidance and they released a product not ready to be shipped.
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Post by dutchsghost7 on Aug 20, 2017 4:18:22 GMT
I expected them to have some balls...
Not just pack up and throw their hands in the air when theres one mediocre game in a good series, and jump the fence...
They couldn't go anywhere with Andromeda. There's no relays, meaning they're stuck in a boring/Dead cluster. They should have just went with a sequel to Me3, use the destroy or control ending and build off a new trilogy with the Yahg as the new threat.
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Post by Andrew Lucas on Aug 20, 2017 4:22:14 GMT
It's dead, Jim.
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Post by dutchsghost7 on Aug 20, 2017 4:23:39 GMT
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Post by warrior on Aug 20, 2017 4:37:47 GMT
I think it was likely EA higher-ups that made that awful decision, not BW folks EA may have been the ones to force BioWare to ultimately release the game (they do have to make a certain amount of money every fiscal year), but you also have to realize the game had been in development hell for five years and was even delayed six months. EA gave BioWare every opportunity in the world to do something with this game. Andromeda had a longer development cycle than any previous BioWare game. It's easy to blame the publisher, but this one falls to BioWare. They didn't have proper guidance and they released a product not ready to be shipped. No, the BW folks screwed up by wasting too much time and too many resources early on. But sometimes your team/employee screws up; that doesn't mean you release the product before it's ready and say "Oh well." It's not life or death (like a car or something), but it's still kind of a Fuck You to your consumer, especially those who pre-ordered because they love the franchise so much. This is why people were worried about BW being subsumed into a behemoth corp like EA. They sell us an unfinished product for a game that was hyped to hell, and we're just supposed to be cool with it because the "fiscal quarter." Hey, they gotta eat, too buy their spot on the space station with all the other obscenely rich people before the nukes make Earth unhabitable ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ Too bad BW can't work on a game until it's basically perfect, like CDPR can, so that major setbacks don't unexpectedly ruin not only a much-anticipated game, but also potentially a whole franchise. I won't be pre-ordering EA games anymore, that's for sure.
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Post by Revan Reborn on Aug 20, 2017 4:45:14 GMT
No, the BW folks screwed up by wasting too much time and too many resources early on. But sometimes your team/employee screws up; that doesn't mean you release the product before it's ready and say "Oh well." It's not life or death (like a car or something), but it's still kind of a Fuck You to your consumer, especially those who pre-ordered because they love the franchise so much. This is why people were worried about BW being subsumed into a behemoth corp like EA. They sell us an unfinished product for a game that was hyped to hell, and we're just supposed to be cool with it because the "fiscal quarter." Hey, they gotta eat, too buy their spot in the space station with all the other obscenely rich people before the nukes make Earth unhabitable ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ Too bad BW can't work on a game until it's basically perfect, like CDPR can, so that major setbacks don't unexpectedly ruin not only a much-anticipated game, but also potentially a whole franchise. I won't be pre-ordering EA games anymore, that's for sure. I certainly don't make it a habit of defending billion dollar corporations. It's obvious where their allegiance lies. That being said, this would never have happened if BioWare had a clear plan from the start of Andromeda's development. CDPR is in a unique situation in which they can really do whatever they want without fear of backlash from a major publisher. BioWare doesn't have that luxury, but they do have a lot of resources, manpower, and funding if they make a quality game in the boundaries that EA sets. BioWare has made some great games under EA, and I think they can continue to do so as long as they do not repeat the mistakes of Andromeda's development woes. I'm not happy about how this turned out anymore than you are, as Mass Effect is my favorite BioWare franchise. I just refuse to solely blame EA for Andromeda's poor performance, because EA ultimately did not develop this game. I just want BioWare to learn from this so that we never have another situation like this ever again.
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Post by The Biotic Trebuchet on Aug 20, 2017 8:53:35 GMT
Hi, DutchTM.
How are things in Kekistan?
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Post by dutchsghost7 on Aug 20, 2017 15:38:40 GMT
Hi, Dutch TM. How are things in Kekistan? >kekistan
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