Very Disturbing Cryo Ammo test

www.reddit.com/r/MECoOp/comments/6v0ji0/psarant_ammo_powers_are_so_unbalanced_broken/

also here: www.reddit.com/r/MECoOp/comments/6uvpfm/reposting_information_request_form_for_numbers/

All thanks/credit to SRKm00b at Reddit for testing and posting:

"Tagging u/bwebastiaanfrank on the off chance a BWE employee might read it... I don't happen to know Fernando or anyone else's usernames so maybe those in the know can tag them as well..

So.. last stream Bioware reached out to the community seeking feedback on how they should implement Ammo Booster purchases (what price points / rarities / etc). Cool that they're asking feedback from the community so directly now.

However, 2 out of the 3 ammo boosters are still broken (since release). The only ammo booster that is WYSIWYG is Disruptor Ammo. It primes, it does bonus damage to shields, it works nicely with Elemental Tech and other debuffs. It seems pretty unanimous that it's currently THE best Ammo type in the game.

Now, let's talk about Incendiary Ammo. It does a great DOT, doing 25 damage over 5 seconds per shot. This can add up to quite a bit of damage with fast guns. It works properly with ET and other debuffs (although it will interfere with Cryo type debuffs, which is expected). In the tooltips, however, it states it does additional damage versus Armored targets. This damage doesn't exist. It does exactly the same amount of damage (after appropriate damage reduction based on difficulty) against armored targets and health targets. This damage only applies to the DOT (Thanks peddro for correction).

Lastly, the worst offender: Cryo Ammo. This booster also lists a supposed armor damage boost that doesn't exist in game. Atleast it plays well with the current meta of Snap Freeze debuffs, right? WRONG. Equipping Cryo Ammo completely negates any anti-armor bonus you get from a target being debuffed by either Cryo Beam/Trap or Snap Freeze. Instead of that juicy 2.35x multiplier on that Blaze Hydra the group's Scrapper was kind enough to Snap Freeze... you're now getting a modest 1.2x. Someone was confident enough to bring that Human Engineer Cryo Trap build into your PUG Platinum game? Too bad you're using Cryo Ammo. The Behemoth that just strolled into the Cryo Trap, you're only doing 1.35x from Elemental Tech instead of 2.5x. So.. not only do you not get along with any Incinerate / Flamethrower classes, you also don't synergize well with Cryo classes, either.
How would I fix it?

Fix compatibility issues with Cryo Ammo / Cryo Powers.
Either rewrite the tooltips (less than ideal) or give Cryo / Incendiary Ammo bonus damage to armor.
Make the shield / armor bonuses on their respective boosters scale with Booster level, creating an incentive to use II/III/IV Boosters."



This is absurd! I cannot believe cryo ammo cancels cryo armor debuffs!
I have been doing it so wrong!
This needs fixed before support disappears as it has to be a bug.

JRandall0308 this belongs at the top of the Twitch questions this week!