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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Aug 25, 2017 19:04:03 GMT
The Mass Relays require pairs to work. The one in Dark Space connected to the Citadel. So when the Citadel couldn't be activated for that purpose, they had no way of using the Mass Relay in Dark Space thus they had to use conventional FTL until they could reach another Mass Relay like they were aiming to do with the Alpha Relay in Arrival. Gotcha. Shep bested them twice that way then. So I guess the one in dark space and the Citadel can only connect to each other? Cause all the other ones can connect to the others freely. Yep. It depends on the Mass Relay. There are two kinds: primary and secondary. Primary Mass Relays can only connect to one other Mass Relay but have a longer range of thousands of light years. Secondary Mass Relays can connect to multiple other Mass Relays but have a shorter range of only a few hundred light years.
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Post by LogicGunn on Aug 25, 2017 19:05:58 GMT
Gotcha. Shep bested them twice that way then. So I guess the one in dark space and the Citadel can only connect to each other? Cause all the other ones can connect to the others freely. Yep. It depends on the Mass Relay. There are two kinds: primary and secondary. Primary Mass Relays can only connect to one other Mass Relay but have a longer range of thousands of light years. Secondary Mass Relays can connect to multiple other Mass Relays but have a shorter range of only a few hundred light years. The size of one to connect to another galaxy is unthinkable. Bit of a design flaw by the Reapers, for some super intelligent AIs, not being able to connect to other relays from DS.
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Aug 25, 2017 19:09:28 GMT
Yep. It depends on the Mass Relay. There are two kinds: primary and secondary. Primary Mass Relays can only connect to one other Mass Relay but have a longer range of thousands of light years. Secondary Mass Relays can connect to multiple other Mass Relays but have a shorter range of only a few hundred light years. The size of one to connect to another galaxy is unthinkable. Bit of a design flaw by the Reapers, for some super intelligent AIs, not being able to connect to other relays from DS. More likely I think there would have to be a series of Mass Relays to connect the Milky Way to Andromeda, though maybe two Mass Relays on par with the Citadel would be able to connect the two galaxies by themselves. To be fair to the Reapers, the design had worked for over a billion years, or 20,000 harvests, at least without incident. Plus it only takes them a couple years to reach the galaxy without it, that time is nothing to them.
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Post by LogicGunn on Aug 25, 2017 19:12:29 GMT
The size of one to connect to another galaxy is unthinkable. Bit of a design flaw by the Reapers, for some super intelligent AIs, not being able to connect to other relays from DS. More likely I think there would have to be a series of Mass Relays to connect the Milky Way to Andromeda, though maybe two Mass Relays on par with the Citadel would be able to connect the two galaxies by themselves. To be fair to the Reapers, the design had worked for over a billion years, or 20,000 harvests, at least without incident. Yeah, that might have made them complacent. Well, a series of relays could work. In another 300 years, cause some poor buggers would have to make the trip again, from both galaxies, to drop off some relays. Maybe by then the ME3 endings will be obsolete.
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Post by Element Zero on Aug 26, 2017 6:19:00 GMT
The Mass Relays require pairs to work. The one in Dark Space connected to the Citadel. So when the Citadel couldn't be activated for that purpose, they had no way of using the Mass Relay in Dark Space thus they had to use conventional FTL until they could reach another Mass Relay like they were aiming to do with the Alpha Relay in Arrival. Gotcha. Shep bested them twice that way then. So I guess the one in dark space and the Citadel can only connect to each other? Cause all the other ones can connect to the others freely. If it took the entire Citadel to power a connection to Dark Space, I don't think it's feasible or practical to build one that can reach another Galaxy then. The power requirements would out do any of the current tech in ME. Your skepticism is logical, but in MEA we have geth converting relays into intergalactic, lag-free telescope arrays. Apparently, strange as it seems, those corridors of massless space can reach 2.5M LY, at least. I enjoy MEA, but it's full of stuff about which you can't think too hard, or at all. SciFi is full of impossible things, but MEA stretches even the basic premises of ME to their limits, all for the sake of going to Andromeda.
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Post by sil on Aug 26, 2017 9:51:13 GMT
Best way to connect Andromeda to Milky Way? Say that the Benefactor brought along the Conduit. That'd close the plothole in ME3 of why Shep didn't just dive through that to get to the Citadel.
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Post by Element Zero on Aug 26, 2017 14:31:47 GMT
Best way to connect Andromeda to Milky Way? Say that the Benefactor brought along the Conduit. That'd close the plothole in ME3 of why Shep didn't just dive through that to get to the Citadel. The conduit was a connection between the Ios ruins and the Citadel. It was also stated that it's defunct, after the events of ME. (Who knows why? Plot boundaries, I assume.) It could be repaired, I guess, but I think there are better ways. How much eezo is needed to traverse 2.5M LY, anyway? Could such a tiny relay manage that? The conduit was never intended for a major workload. It was an experiment by prothean scientists that ended up being extremely valuable. It only worked in one direction; but fortunately in the useful direction.
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Post by sil on Aug 26, 2017 14:35:59 GMT
That's true, it was an experimental piece, but also a technology so advanced that it was barely knowable. The Cerberus Daily News had made it clear that even experimenting near one was considered risky, and almost no-one had done so to determine their true age until just prior to the war. I'd think that the Conduit, even if it was defunct, has the biggest chance of being restored and calibrated to connect back to the Citadel. That is unless there is some Jaardan tech that can do something similar, connecting to Jaardan tech in the Milky Way perhaps, if there is some there (barely 1% had been explored). All supposition, though.
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Post by alanc9 on Aug 26, 2017 17:24:46 GMT
Gotcha. Shep bested them twice that way then. So I guess the one in dark space and the Citadel can only connect to each other? Cause all the other ones can connect to the others freely. If it took the entire Citadel to power a connection to Dark Space, I don't think it's feasible or practical to build one that can reach another Galaxy then. The power requirements would out do any of the current tech in ME. Your skepticism is logical, but in MEA we have geth converting relays into intergalactic, lag-free telescope arrays. Apparently, strange as it seems, those corridors of massless space can reach 2.5M LY, at least. I enjoy MEA, but it's full of stuff about which you can't think too hard, or at all. SciFi is full of impossible things, but MEA stretches even the basic premises of ME to their limits, all for the sake of going to Andromeda. Reaction to ME:A seems to depend a lot on whether you were taking ME lore seriously in the first place. I thought I didn't, but Cora's LM bugged me anyway.
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Post by ArabianIGoggles on Aug 26, 2017 20:01:45 GMT
I wish they would have shown us what the citadel looks like when in "relay mode". I bet it's glorious.
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