Q: Turian Soldier vs. Human Juggernaut DR

I don't have the numbers, I just can say I played a Gold game with a rank I level 8 juggernaut and didn't fall once, and I'm not a great player (although I'm usually a good tank).
TS is tanky too, but especially when he has low health, while the juggernaut always is tanky. Well as long as you do damage, so don't take a buggy weapon like the Crusader.

Kind of weird The Human Juggy vs the TS...

In my opinion the TS should get way more DR since he loses mobility something has to make up for it say...more DR? As people say the Human Juggy pretty much gets all the time this massive DR while the TS only gets it while at the brink of eminent dead. Unmoving defense is kind of good but only if you "sit like a duck" and have a weapon that has sustained fire like the Soned.

To make the TS dish out more DPS one needs to spec into grenades but that to has its flaw loosing DR you have to sacrifice some points in fortify or shields...this however depends on some ones playstyle.

Human Juggy is agile, fast, has sh*t ton of DR, immune to damage after every kill why bother with the TS?
Something is wrong here i was under the impression that slower heavy characters get more defense ie DR dish out more damage this was pretty much always has been the case in games.

It would be great if you spec all into fortify and shields but still get 4 or 5 grenades as of now fully spec'd into fortify and shields nets you a lousy ONE grenade...Nothing against the Juggy but it should have been more balanced between the 2 tanky characters...

You also need to look at the type of play style you have. Are you mobile? Static? Prefer weapons? Power?

It's hard to compare the two, because the H-Jug lacks any combat abilities. You need to be mobile to make the most use of the class. Granted, you can just sit and snipe, but even with Apex maxed for damage, you will will get outclassed by weapon DPS heavy classes.

Also, I find the cyro explosions somewhat lacking in terms of damage.  Even if you opt for Apex power damage, you still won't kill anything outright on Gold.

So it's sort of a mixed class in terms of it's offensive capabilities.

HOWEVER, the overall DR outclasses anything in this game. The H-Jug is a walking tank. I only have 1 point in Fortify, and I rarely go down in Gold matches. I've done a few matches with the Platinum apex missions, and had success.

I'm messing around with a different build; a damage based class. I like that I can just sit and fire, and not have to worry about constantly taking cover to fire. Since the biotic/tech rarely kills, I use it more for the de-buff mechanics. Also, speccing for Aerial abilities, actually feels more effective than it does with the Turian Havoc.

Still messing around with it; I'm thinking of just going 5-6-3-6-6, once I get him to X.

Both TSOL and JUGGY need to sacrifice DR to get max DPS. The Human Soldier can outdo their DPS without sacrificing anything. I run a HSOL on platinum with a hurricane, fully speccd concussive shot and incendiary ammo (for fire explosions). You kill things so fast, there's nothing left alive to question how much DR you have. ha!

Well this game has stuff like elemental tech which doesn't work at all like it's described but yeah, experience suggests the invuln works when you get credit for "kill" when the score pops up rather than "damage."

As for the core topic, poultry said it best. T Sol gets a lot of DR while in cover and while stationary but the juggernaut gets to benefit from comparable DR while moving around. Both have access to unmoving defense evo from fort but there's a reason the juggernaut doesn't typically take it. It means juggernaut doesn't die from getting pinned down anywhere near as frequently as a sniper perch T Sol build.

And as mentioned, the invuln evo is really where most of the great tankiness comes from. 1.5s per kill is a lot of uptime on a class with Snap Freeze and is enough to get your shields recharging every kill with the right setup. Really great stuff. Hold the line, as good as it is, doesn't really compare.

As for damage, juggernaut has a discrete advantage on Platinum and vs factions with a lot of armor if there isn't another Snap freezer or cryo beamer. The 135% extra damage for the juggernaut alone outpaces what the T Sol can put out, assuming there isn't another Snap freezer/cryo Beamer in the party. And when you factor in the entire party benefitting from that debuff, they don't compare.