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Post by Deleted on Sept 14, 2017 12:42:14 GMT
The Mako wins SCREW THE WORLD!!! >8) The Mako or Mako from SWTOR?
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Post by griffith82 on Sept 14, 2017 12:52:28 GMT
The Mako wins SCREW THE WORLD!!! >8) The Mako or Mako from SWTOR? Darn you. Now as soon as my computer is fixed I'm going to want to start up SWTOR again. All the stuff you've brought up. *hits you* J/k😋😉😁
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Post by Deleted on Sept 14, 2017 13:16:17 GMT
The Mako or Mako from SWTOR? Darn you. Now as soon as my computer is fixed I'm going to want to start up SWTOR again. All the stuff you've brought up. *hits you* J/k😋😉😁 Heh, hope you will not be disappointed if you do. 'Tis a good game, well, at least imo.
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Post by anarchy65 on Sept 14, 2017 14:04:54 GMT
Tier 1: Legion, Mordin Solus, Morrigan, Sten, Garrus Vakarian, Thane Krios, SANDAL, Varric, Peebee
Tier 2: Oghren, Isabella, EDI, Joker, Grunt, Steve Cortez, Shale, Alistair, Anora, Loghain, Wrex, Merrill, Zevran, Solas, Iron Bull, Jack, Miranda, Illusive Man
Tier 3: Tali, Liara, Kasumi, Bodahn (?), Vivienne, Cole, Gil, Blackwall, Javik, Cassandra, Josephinne, Samara, Nathaniel Howe,
Tier 4: Fenris, Aveline, Cullen, Sera, Drack, Samantha Traynor, Kallo, Sigurd, Justice, Anders, Kelly, Vectra
Tier 5: Ashley Williams, James Vega, Lexi, Suvi, Sebastian, Jacob, Velanna
Tier 432784324879278472987489327497283442942492042: Cora and Liam
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Post by thedarkprince on Sept 14, 2017 16:06:21 GMT
This has been something I have been wanting to do with a while, and with the news of MEAs demise it seems like this will be the last BioWare characters we will ever get for a while...unless Anthem is something else then what we all think it is. Basically, ranking all the BioWare characters, specifically the companions and the secondary crew. Using my system, or really any system. So without further ado. Tier 1: Cassandra Pentaghast, Dorian Pavus, Garrus Vakarian, James Vega, Anders, Allistair Therrin, Varric Tethras, Thane Krios, Miranda Lawson, Cullen Tier 2: Fenris, Sera, Leiliana, Josephine, Jaal Ama Derav, Drack, Wrex, Solas, Cora Harper, Kasumi Goto, Joker, Samantha Traynor, Kaidan Alenko, Sandal, Bodhen, Kallo, Tier 3, Ashley Williams, EDI, Liam Kosta, Peebee, Vivienne, Cole,Grunt, Zaeed Massani, Steve Cortez, Stenn, Morrigan, Suvi, Gil, Tier 4: Liara Tsoni, Blackwall, Javik, Zevran, Shale, Lexi, Tier 5: Oghren, Isabella, And that is about all I can remember right now. If I missed any, do let me know. Stopped reading when I saw Anders and Miranda both in tier one. Anders was great in Awakening. He was fucking horrible in DA2. Miranda was basically Kaiden with a vagina. She was boring, bland and completely forgettable.....But check out her nice ass! They sure loved showing it off. Guess to hide the fact she had no personality.
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Post by mikeymoonshine on Sept 14, 2017 17:46:54 GMT
I'm not going to include all the companions from the Baldur's Gate games because many of them I have never used or barely used. I'm also ranking quality of character so some characters on lower tiers I still may have liked and some of the higher tier characters I may have hated but still enjoyed their character. I've not played Jade Empire or Neverwinter Nights so I can't comment on those characters and i'm just not going to bother with SWTOR. Tier 1: HK-47, Jolee, Solas, Cassandra, Dorian, Cole, Aveline, Morrigan, Leliana, Shale, Wynne, Loghain, Edwin, Garrus, Tali, Wrex, Legion, Samara, Mordin, Tier 2: Varric, Vivienne, Isabela, Bethany, Alistair, Sten, Sigrun, Viconia, Jaheira, Minsc, Aerie, Haer'Dalis, Grunt, Thane, Jack, Miranda, Vetra, Jaal, Drack Tier 3: Mission, Bastila, Iron Bull, Anders, Fenris, Dog, Oghren, Zevran, Nethaniel, Justice, Dynaheir, Anomen, Sarevok, Liara, Kaidan, Ashley, Kasumi, Zaeed, Edi, Aria, Nyreen, Tier 4: Carth, Zaalbar, T3-M4, Canderous (better in Kotor 2), Sera, Blackwall, Merrill, Carver, Velanna, Imoen, Quayle, Shar-Teel, Xan, Branwen, Faldorn, Xzar, Montaron, Keldorn, Korgan, Nalia, Valygar, Yoshimo, Javik, Cora, Liam, Peebee Tier 5: Juhani, Sebastian, Tallis, Khalid, Tiax, Safana, Garrick, Kagain, Mazzy, Morinth, Jacob, James, Not a perfect system but a general idea.
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Post by traks on Sept 14, 2017 21:26:52 GMT
I think I will only rank Mass Effect characters, because I have played every single ME game more than all three Dragon age games combined. Not so easy, because I like a lot of them. Here we go (without temporary sqadmates):
Tier one (my favorites): Miranda, Grunt, Liara, Garrus, Mordin.
Tier two (great ones): Thane, Jack, Drack, Wrex, Javik.
Tier three (good ones): Legion, Ashley, Tali, Peebee, Cora, Samara.
Tier four (OKish): Jaal, Zaeed, Kasumi, Kaidan.
Tier five (least favorite): Vega, Liam, Vetra, Jacob, EDI.
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Post by ProbeAway on Sept 14, 2017 23:17:02 GMT
I can't do it, so instead I'll list the three Bioware characters that I think are the most underrated (limited to ME and DA):
James Vega - I think a lot of people were put off by his ridiculous appearance (srsly, Bioware?) but he has more character than most of the other squadmates in the OT. He's genuinely torn about leaving Earth, he is wary of the Cult of Shepard and you actually have to earn his respect to get him to open up.
Merrill - Foolish, misguided, desperate Merrill. I found her whole character arc so tragic, particularly when her village turns on her. A sad example of why the end doesn't always justify the means.
Cora Harper - Something something Asari commandos, I know. But watching her world being turned upside down firstly when Alec passes her over and secondly when her illusion regarding Sarissa is shattered is one of the more mememorable parts of MEA. So few Bioware characters have her level of character growth, even if her dialogue wasn't always well written.
Most overrated is Liara, for reasons that should be pretty obvious. I don't dislike her tho.
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Post by Lady Sif on Sept 15, 2017 1:22:56 GMT
I've only played the Mass Effect and Dragon Age games.
Teir one (favorites): Solas, Miranda, Kaidan, Cullen, Drak, Alistair, Cole, Dorian, Jack, Javik, Morrigan, Nathaniel, Liam, Liara, Fenris, Isabela, Anora, Hackett, Illusive Man
Teir two (great): Garrus, Mordin, Joker, Anderson, Thane, Cora, Vetra, Chakwas, Lexi, Sera, Cassandra, Aveline, Justice, SAM, Legion, Grunt, Wrex, Varric, Josephine, Kallo, Reyes, Samantha, Shale, Dog, Sten, Wynne
Teir three (ok): Tali, Ashley, Leliana, Kasumi, Zaeed, Bethany, Steve, Tallis, Peebee, Jaal, Suvi, Gil, Merril, Sigrun, Vivienne, Loghain, Samara
Teir four (least favorite): Vega, Jacob, Zevran, Anders, Carver, Oghren, Velanna, Iron Bull, Blackwall, Sebastian, EDI
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Post by Steelcan on Sept 15, 2017 2:21:03 GMT
companions only
Top Tier: Mordin, Dorian, Legion Good tier: Javik, Wrex, rivaled Anders, Garrus, Iron Bull, Loghain, Morrigan, Passable tier: Vega, Sten, Anders, Fenris, Miranda, Grunt, Shale, Merrill, Alistair, Cassandra, Ashley, Jack, Peebee, Jaal Meh tier: Sigrun, Nathaniel, Zaeed, Kaidan, Zevran, Varric, Isabela, Bethany, Tali, Liara, Drack Oh yeah they were there: Wynne, Oghren, Velanna, Carver, Thane, Nyreen, Kasumi, EDI, Vetra, Cora, Bad tier: Sera, Vivienne, Sebastian, Liam, Jacob tier: Jacob
I'm sure I've forgotten someone in there
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Post by Ieldra on Sept 15, 2017 14:08:35 GMT
So many characters....but here we are:
All-time Favorites: BG: Jon Irenicus DA: Morrigan, Solas, Flemeth, Dagna ME: Miranda (ME2 only), Javik, Ann Bryson, Oleg Petrovsky SW: Revan (KotOR only)
Good but didn't resonate as well as the top-tier ones: BG: Dynaheir, Valygar, Kivan, Mazzy, Viconia DA: Alistair, Dorian, Cassandra, Leliana, Hawke, Cole, Isabela, Bethany, Anders, Merrill, Sten, Iron Bull, Nathaniel, Sigrun, Shale, Loghain ME: Mordin, Legion, Reyes Vidal, Samantha, Brynn Cole, Maya Brooks, Tarquin Victus, Hackett SW: Bastila, Mission, HK-47
Some good, some bad: BG: Minsc, Branwen, Cernd, Jan Jansen, Xan, Jaheira DA: Varric, Vivienne, Cullen, Josephine, Anders, Fenris, Aveline, Blackwall, Carver, Zevran, Sera, Sebastian, Meredith, Justice ME: Miranda (ME3 only), Liara, Garrus, Jack, Tali, EDI, Shepard, Kaidan, Wrex, Ashley, Thane, Kasumi, Zaeed, Pebee, Drack, Vetra, Samara, James Vega, Grunt, Ryder, Suwi, Kirrahe, Steve, Illusive Man, Saren SW: Carth, Canderous
Could've done without or really badly written: BG: Shar-Teel, Korgan DA: Tallis, Corypheus, Velanna, Wynne ME: Morinth, Jacob, Cora, Tela Vasir, Benezia, Aria, Kelly, SAM, Udina, Khalisah, Gil, Lexi
Games would be much better if these were not in them: BG: Anomen DA: Oghren ME: Jaal, Liam, Henry Lawson, Kai Leng, The Archon, Harbinger, The Reaper-Controlling AI
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Post by Deleted on Sept 15, 2017 16:11:55 GMT
My ranking has to be limited to the ME games and honestly, I can't do one. The rankings change depending on how I'm focusing each playthrough, how I'm structuring my PCs personality, who I happen to take on various missions, and (in the case of ME:A) whether or not I happen to trigger certain banters in the Nomad and at what points in the game I happen to trigger them (sometimes the banters are extremely appropriate and other times they are truly just "off"). Generally, I find the LI's for Male Shep and Male Ryder more versatile to construct variable stories around than the LIs for FemShep (still doing my first playthrough with FemRyder, so this really doesn't apply).
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Post by Trilobite Derby on Sept 15, 2017 17:25:50 GMT
I'm going to forget people. So... This is a noncomprehensive list, subject to change (and misspelling due to under-caffeination).
BFFs: Nathaniel, Wynne, Sebastian, Talos, Sigrun, Aveline, Senya, Samara, Vivenne, Vetra, Reyes, Tali, and Garrus.
BFs: Alistair, Dog, Carver, Isabella, Bethany, Shale, Torian, SCORPIO (okay, maybe BFs doesn't apply for that one...), Blackwall, Kaidan, Ashley, Arcann (Or that one), Vega, Morrigan, Liam, Joker and Kallo.
Would Help Them Move: Cora, Liara, Lelianna, Fenris, Anders, Zevran, Drack, Peebee, ME2 Jacob, Javik, EDI, Lana, Theron, Bastilla, Jolee and probably literally everyone else who isn't on this list, though I still need to play JE.
Jacob Tier: AVINA. I'm telling you, that thing is the worst thing in any Bioware game, and it's pure evil to boot.
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I'm going to forget people. So... This is a noncomprehensive list, subject to change (and misspelling due to under-caffeination). BFFs: Nathaniel, Wynne, Sebastian, Talos, Sigrun, Aveline, Senya, Samara, Vivenne, Vetra, Reyes, Tali, and Garrus. BFs: Alistair, Dog, Carver, Isabella, Bethany, Shale, Torian, SCORPIO (okay, maybe BFs doesn't apply for that one...), Blackwall, Kaidan, Ashley, Arcann (Or that one), Vega, Morrigan, Liam, Joker and Kallo. Would Help Them Move: Cora, Liara, Lelianna, Fenris, Anders, Zevran, Drack, Peebee, ME2 Jacob, Javik, EDI, Lana, Theron, Bastilla, Jolee and probably literally everyone else who isn't on this list, though I still need to play JE. Jacob Tier: AVINA. I'm telling you, that thing is the worst thing in any Bioware game, and it's pure evil to boot. Ah, but Avina's not even a character... "Her code is limited to... "
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Post by linksocarina on Sept 15, 2017 19:57:21 GMT
You all forgot MDK and Jade Empire...
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Post by Deleted on Sept 15, 2017 23:42:15 GMT
Tier 1: Jacob Tier 2: Jacob Tier 3: Do you know I was born in London Tier 4: STEEEEEVE Tier 5: Geth Hopper
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Post by Guts on Sept 16, 2017 1:40:41 GMT
Tier 1: Jacob Tier 2: Jacob Tier 3: Do you know I was born in London Tier 4: STEEEEEVE Tier 5: Geth Hopper Am I doing this right?
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Post by colfoley on Sept 16, 2017 8:11:17 GMT
Anyways to update this list finally for me. With the three characters I know I have forgotten...shame on me.
Tier 2: Wynne: Tier 3: Vetra: Tier 4: Jack Tier 5: Jacob Taylor
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Post by sriep on Sept 18, 2017 13:33:53 GMT
A couple of thoughts
Vivienne: Tier 0. My framerate. A wonderful mixed character. On an immediate personal level, one of the most obnoxious and irritating Bioware characters. However, she is IMHO the most intelligent Bioware character, with a deep understanding of the Dragon Age world. I find that the best source of in-game information and understanding of the complex politics of the Dragon Age world is gained through talking to Vivienne.
Tier 1 or 99: Anders: My least favourite character; Weak minded mass murdering looser. While I might dislike him, I realise what a great contribution he brings to the plot. The Dragon Age 2 plot is much richer for his presence.
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You all forgot MDK and Jade Empire... A fair few lists include Jade Empire characters.
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Post by bladefist on Sept 28, 2017 23:45:07 GMT
Companions Tier 1: BG2 - Viconia, Edwin, Korgan, Sarevok DAO - Oghren, Morrigan, Sten ME1 - Wrex ME2 - Jack, Grunt, Kasumi ME3 - Javik
Meh I can't rank like this lol
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Tier 1: The Illusive Man Tier 2:
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Whoever thinks that Fenris is a good character should be send to a gulag.
anyway, Leliana or gtfo.
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Post by colfoley on Sept 29, 2017 3:53:39 GMT
Whoever thinks that Fenris is a good character should be send to a gulag. anyway, Leliana or gtfo. dat voice doe.
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Post by anarchy65 on Sept 29, 2017 4:07:57 GMT
Whoever thinks that Fenris is a good character should be send to a gulag. anyway, Leliana or gtfo. Man, I would gladly replace any character in ME:A with Fenris, LOL. Even though I hate him
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