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Post by boxofscreaming on May 17, 2018 18:32:50 GMT
Right now I'm trying to compose a team for the Ser Varnell quest, the Wounded Coast, and that creature the Keeper wants you to face near the Dalish Camp. They are all act II quests, but they are tough. I was thinking of using Aveline, Isabela, and Merrill along with my mage Hawke. There are two types of creatures that always kill me most of the time. Demons, and Marbari. I like Fenris and Isabela but they are crap, I don't know how to best utilize their skills. Fenris is like Sten and Isabela is like Zevran in DA:O, I don't like using them. I've been getting away using 3 mages and a tank, but this time it's not effective. I need a better team. So does anyone have any suggestions for the above quests? Yeah, I tend to struggle with Fenris and Isabela too. Isabela can come in handy against powerful enemies like Revenants and Arcane Horrors because she's got Twin Fangs and Explosive Strike, but I always had to micromanage her to make her effective (especially since Explosive Strike needs timing). I guess you could build Fenris as a kind of tank, but I normally just use him in tandem with Aveline so she can take the hits. The Ser Varnell fight has loads of enemies, so you'll want area-of-effect abilities and crowd control if possible. Fenris might actually be OK here, but rogues are probably not that useful (though I think there's a chest just before the fight with a good weapon in and you can't come back...). That Varterral can knock you about like crazy, as I recall, so maybe just use Aveline up close and have archers and mages attacking from distance. You'll have Merrill anyway.
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Post by talyn82 on May 18, 2018 1:35:23 GMT
Right now I'm trying to compose a team for the Ser Varnell quest, the Wounded Coast, and that creature the Keeper wants you to face near the Dalish Camp. They are all act II quests, but they are tough. I was thinking of using Aveline, Isabela, and Merrill along with my mage Hawke. There are two types of creatures that always kill me most of the time. Demons, and Marbari. I like Fenris and Isabela but they are crap, I don't know how to best utilize their skills. Fenris is like Sten and Isabela is like Zevran in DA:O, I don't like using them. I've been getting away using 3 mages and a tank, but this time it's not effective. I need a better team. So does anyone have any suggestions for the above quests? Yeah, I tend to struggle with Fenris and Isabela too. Isabela can come in handy against powerful enemies like Revenants and Arcane Horrors because she's got Twin Fangs and Explosive Strike, but I always had to micromanage her to make her effective (especially since Explosive Strike needs timing). I guess you could build Fenris as a kind of tank, but I normally just use him in tandem with Aveline so she can take the hits. The Ser Varnell fight has loads of enemies, so you'll want area-of-effect abilities and crowd control if possible. Fenris might actually be OK here, but rogues are probably not that useful (though I think there's a chest just before the fight with a good weapon in and you can't come back...). That Varterral can knock you about like crazy, as I recall, so maybe just use Aveline up close and have archers and mages attacking from distance. You'll have Merrill anyway. Yes, I am not a big fan of micromanaging. I just set up their tactics and let them go. I only pay attention to them when their health is low. As for the Varnell fight my Hawke is an elemental/force mage, but as soon as the fight starts the shades surround me. I easily take them about but the next wave of shades does the same thing and my powers are on cooldown. The Varterral is annoying I used Aveline, Anders, Merrill, and my mage Hawke. Aveline kept getting knocked around and it's range attack quickly took out Anders and Merrill, since they don't run they just stand there. I've done all these quests before as a two handed warrior, and they did give me trouble. But I did beat them. I will test different combinations and see.
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Post by boxofscreaming on May 18, 2018 17:51:49 GMT
Yes, I am not a big fan of micromanaging. I just set up their tactics and let them go. I only pay attention to them when their health is low. As for the Varnell fight my Hawke is an elemental/force mage, but as soon as the fight starts the shades surround me. I easily take them about but the next wave of shades does the same thing and my powers are on cooldown. The Varterral is annoying I used Aveline, Anders, Merrill, and my mage Hawke. Aveline kept getting knocked around and it's range attack quickly took out Anders and Merrill, since they don't run they just stand there. I've done all these quests before as a two handed warrior, and they did give me trouble. But I did beat them. I will test different combinations and see. I'd take Varric or Sebastian for the Varterral fight - archers are good against large bosses. For Varnell, Gravitic Ring is a must if you're a Force Mage. That's a tricky fight though!
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Post by talyn82 on May 18, 2018 18:16:55 GMT
Yes, I am not a big fan of micromanaging. I just set up their tactics and let them go. I only pay attention to them when their health is low. As for the Varnell fight my Hawke is an elemental/force mage, but as soon as the fight starts the shades surround me. I easily take them about but the next wave of shades does the same thing and my powers are on cooldown. The Varterral is annoying I used Aveline, Anders, Merrill, and my mage Hawke. Aveline kept getting knocked around and it's range attack quickly took out Anders and Merrill, since they don't run they just stand there. I've done all these quests before as a two handed warrior, and they did give me trouble. But I did beat them. I will test different combinations and see. I'd take Varric or Sebastian for the Varterral fight - archers are good against large bosses. For Varnell, Gravitic Ring is a must if you're a Force Mage. That's a tricky fight though! I don't have access to Sebastian even though I own the dlc, but that's an old story. But I will bring Varric. I was able to beat the demons surrounding Varells body, and the next waves, using Aveline, Merrill, and Isabela. Right now I'm using Fenris, Isabela, and Merrill. I gave Fenris the ability to shift into a ghost like form and he's been doing good. He still gets hit, but at least he doesn't die like Sten in the original game.
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Post by obbie1984 on May 22, 2018 23:13:01 GMT
- What type of quest it is. If I can get interesting dialogue from the characters or not. Like I will take Anders and Fenris on Merrill's final quest just to hear them lay into her for being stupid.
- I will usually take the sibling as much as possible. Aveline is usually a staple in my party because I usually play rogue or mage in this game. I also tend to take the romance often as well. Merrill and Izzy for bro Hawke and Fenris for female Hawke.
- Characters who are helpful like Anders if I'm not a mage.
- But above all, I tend to take characters I like so Fenris, Aveline, and one of the siblings are my usual pick.
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Post by LadyofNemesis on Jul 13, 2018 10:59:05 GMT
Like most people for me it depends on the class I'm playing however on my current playthrough as a rogue I've found that my party composition is a lot more varied then when I play a mage (like I usually do) though I tend to work with a simple yet (for me) effective composition; 1 warrior scrapper/defender (Aveline/Fenris (or Carver) 2 rogues (one scrapper one archer) (Hawke/ Isabela and Varric) 1 mage (either Bethany or Anders/Hawke, though sometimes switching for Merrill) I just tend to try to get their friendship/rivalry amounts to the max as soon as possible, then after that I play with my faves xD which is generally Isabela, Fenris and Varric and my Hawke as mage though in my current playthrough playing as a dual wield rogue, I'll have to switch out Izzy for either Merrill or Anders for survivability
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Post by x19dude95 on Jul 25, 2018 20:52:29 GMT
I normally go solo sarcastic hawke
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Post by pessimistpanda on Jul 26, 2018 2:50:26 GMT
I decide based on who I'm trying to friend/rival, and what decisions I'll be making in that mission.
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Post by Noxluxe on Aug 5, 2018 2:51:18 GMT
I tend to think "Who would it make sense for Hawke to call on for this particular job, and who would actually want to participate?", and then go from there. Usually a warrior, two rogues and a mage. I'm playing my first bow rogue on Nightmare atm, and my tactics tend to shift back and forth as I change party members.
Fenris is a beast to unleash on a mob, but an enemy tank will slow him down and his wild swings make it dangerous to have other party members running around in melee with him. Better to let him work out his frustrations and pick reinforcements off from a distance with Varric and Bethany or whoever to keep him from being overwhelmed. That's my current outfit. Aveline is a comparable tank, and safer to surround with melee support, but her principles could get in the way on some of the more clandestine jobs. And besides, she has a full-time job of her own that demands her attention, and can't come running for every little thing.
All the mages work for elemental weapon buffs and healing, and each have their special quirks. Bethany is a go-to as your sister, but not for jobs that expose her too much fighting in the street in broad daylight. Anders is the most experienced and extensively trained mage and occultist, but his personal issues can also make him a liability. Merril is adorable and nostalgic, and also a pretty respectable nuker. But at the same time, she has the weakest stomach of the team and isn't much use in social situations with anyone but other elves.
Isabela is both lethal and surprisingly study, but she´s too erratic and unpredictable to have mages launching AoEs from the back without risking her getting fried while she's dodging and weaving between enemies. And besides, I can't imagine her being enthusiastic about every boring grunt job I volunteer for. Meanwhile, Varric is a solid damage dealer, friend, confidante, entertainer and negotiator. I rarely ever go anywhere without him.
Take from that what you will. The game doesn't punish you for mixing and matching every few quests and putting together a team that makes sense for you RP-wise, as long as you adjust your tactics sensibly so they don't directly sabotage each other. At least on Nightmare.
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Post by ewigDunkelheit on Sept 16, 2018 18:19:00 GMT
As I play a rogue, I don't have to worry about a lockpicker, so I always go with the characters I enjoy most. In my case: I use the sibling as much as possible, Aveline,and a mix of Merrill, Varric, and Sebastian.
I despise Anders, but love my character's conflict with Fenris. I only take Isabela out enough to get her approval high enough to allow me to trade her to the Arishok. I did come to appreciate her character more the one time I played a purple Hawke alternate that romanced her though.
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Post by Iddy on Sept 26, 2018 18:56:31 GMT
At the end of an act or during a final battle, I usually bring Varric, the sibling and the LI. Its a best friend/family/lover thing.
If the sibling isn't available, then Aveline because she's been there since Day 1.
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Post by flyingsquirrel on Aug 19, 2019 16:26:44 GMT
I usually try to have at least one mage and one melee fighter (so either warrior-Hawke, Aveline, or Isabela), and I try to take Aveline along on the "crime-fighting" missions since she's in the Guard and I play Hawke as wary of outright vigilantism. OTOH, I sometimes leave her out if the mission is going to involve helping apostate mages escape.
On my most recent playthrough, I was down to Hawke, Aveline, Varric, and Merrill by default for the first half of the finale - I didn't recruit Fenris or Sebastian, Isabela had absconded with the book at the end of Act II, Bethany was in the Circle, and I told Anders to get lost after he blew up the Chantry. Bethany rejoined for the battles against Orsino and Meredith, at which point I added her back to the party and had Varric as a non-controlled ally (though he seemed to be just standing around watching during some of the fighting).
I also like to have Hawke be solo for some of the personal chats in the characters' various home bases. Some of them don't even seem to like each other that much, so I figured they might not appreciate having the others listening in on those discussions.
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Post by michaeln7 on Oct 19, 2019 19:42:18 GMT
- Aveline has a perma-spot in my party. Best tank I have EVER seen Has been there since the beginning
- Varric gets the second perma-spot. Excellent archer-rogue Bianca tree Relevant, story-enriching dialogue
- Anders or Fenris Extra power or tanking Either having extra healing or another frontliner.
- Myself Mage (some Creation, Arcane, Elemental, dip in Spirit [Spirit Bolt] and Primal [Chain Lightning]) Spirit Healer Force Mage
I've said this in relevant threads; no one of us is filling only a single role, so we can adapt as needed.
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Post by Finvola on Oct 21, 2019 0:13:49 GMT
I'm doing my first NM run at the moment. I've played DAO and DAI on NM loads of times, but for some reason with DA2 I was always reluctant to try it. Mostly the thought of micromanagement and tactics. I mean I do use tactics and cross combos and stuff but I only feel like it during difficult fights. I still let the companions free range a bit, otherwise it's not fun for me. So I finally took the plunge and tried NM. I'm a mage, having to carry all those staffs around and trying to remember immunities and weaknesses is a bit of a pain and then some battles taking an epically long time, haha. I'm not really having trouble with the boss fights, it's the most ridiculous ones that I end up wiping to. Like Carta Dwarves in Darktown for Sketchy On The Details. Street gangs, stupid encounters. I was like WTF? Really?! Not even Varnell put the heat on me like I anticipated and then I wipe to fights that don't even come onto my radar as difficult. Anyway, early game it was Carver, Varric, Anders. Then Fenris, Varric, Anders for most of Act 2 but am using him less in Act 3 now that Merrill is how I want her. Hawke is FM/SH with elemental spells, a few creation, few elemental and entropy. She can deal damage or be support, her role changes based on who I feel like bringing along to quests. Isabela has sat out for a lot of it because I don't feel like micromanaging/babysitting and that's a given for her on NM (and Tallis). I finished MoTA and brought Aveline and Fenris. I did a little dance when I beat that Sky Horror thing. I didn't even wipe once. I did have to restart a couple of times because I couldn't get it to brittle at the start of the fight. It was the stupid Alpha Wyvern that pushed me to the brink. Prosper himself wasn't too bad, it just took an eternity. So now I'm coming to the end of Act 3 and will do Legacy but I haven't yet decided if I'm going to bring Carver. Probably. Maybe I'll pick him up after Malvernis because I'm most definitely going to get reamed. I don't know if I'm going to bring Anders, I haven't decided yet.
Edit: I started Legacy but I don't think my lineup is going to work. I brought Varric, Carver, and Fenris but Carver and Fenris keep killing each other with friendly fire, so it has to be one or the other. It is pretty funny to watch though, haha. I will change the lineup before I go back for Malvernis. I should keep Carver in the lineup, he's a Warden and they have a friendly relationship so it wouldn't make sense to exclude him.
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Post by Finvola on Oct 21, 2019 3:02:47 GMT
When they weren't busy killing each other with friendly fire and actually killed other stuff, I noticed Fenris was the bigger damage dealer out of the two, so I opted to swap Carver out for Anders for Malvernis. But it didn't really matter in the end. Malvernis got stuck behind the stairs/ramp when he turned into dragon form and I safely finished him off at range while Fenris stood there, as the dragon was stuck in a location he couldn't reach, haha. A few demons popped out but it was ridiculously easy,thanks his big dragon ass getting stuck. Phew I got lucky with that fight!
Now I'm about to head towards Cory so I suppose I'll swap Carver back in and leave Fenris behind since they keep hitting each other with their swords. I wasn't in the mood for Anders and his meltdown along the way, which was initially why I wasn't planning on bringing him. but from a tactical point of view it's the smarter choice.
But as far as my usual thing, all across the DA games, I generally prefer to run with 1 warrior, 1 rogue, 2 mages.
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Post by Noxluxe on Nov 6, 2019 7:11:55 GMT
Hardcore RP. I pick whichever companions make sense to me for Hawke to drag along on a particular job, no regard for balance or how weird my strategy is going to have to be to make it work in fights. That just adds to the challenge.
DA2 isn't like the first game, where everyone ostensibly travels together all the time. Hawke's party is implied not to see each other for days between quests. If Hawke wants Isabella or Varric then s/he has to go to the Hanged Man and collect them. Or go into Darktown after Anders, or get Fenris from his house in Hightown.
So it makes sense to me for Hawke to prioritize who s/he thinks s/he'll actually need for the job, rather than who s/he feels like hanging out with or which party combination would be tactically ideal in general, because that might mean spending hours tearing around Kirkwall looking for everyone, seeing if they're home and up for it.
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Post by Sonya on Dec 9, 2019 13:44:13 GMT
Always play on Nightmare mode with FF included. Favorite and most played 2h warrior reaver-bersk + varric +Merrill + Beth (then Anders) As a mage (not my first choice but tried a few times) like GC and a rogue-build: Hawke (Force + BM) + Merrill+ Varric + Anders = no enemy even able to come close. As a rogue: Fenris + Isi + Hawke or GC again. But now (again after 50-60 PTs) I just experiment to play w/o healer e.g. (no Anders at all) with every class. Now have several rogues, warriors and it turned out very well. Sometimes use my rogue as a tank and put point into dex so enemies mostly die from auto-attack + no healer (the same as with 2h warrior). Now almost finished the game Rogue Hawke + Isi + Varric + Merrill = playable and enjoyable. The main thing for me is that I fear Nightmare mod can resist my ideas but actially even w/o healer Hawke and the company are alive.
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