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Post by q5tyhj on Sept 17, 2017 9:45:18 GMT
I'm not the one who started a crybaby thread, that was you. And we already did the argument thing, you lost remember? So now we have to try get to the real issue. Did Manveer Heir cuckold you? Is that what this is really about? This is all starting to make sense... It's a serious thread, in which you are the one crying. There's nothing serious about this thread (obviously), and the entire premise of the thread is to cry about SJWs. Now stop trying to change the subject. Did Manveer Heir really cuckold you? Have you filled out the Butthurt Report Form? Have you already cried on Twitter?
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Post by Hrulj on Sept 17, 2017 9:45:55 GMT
It's a serious thread, in which you are the one crying. Nothing serious about the thread, and the entire premise of the thread is crying. Now stop trying to change the subject. Did Manveer Heir really cuckold you? Have you filled out the Butthurt Report Form? Have you already cried on Twitter? Try harder
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Post by q5tyhj on Sept 17, 2017 9:47:05 GMT
Or was Manveer Heir just a red herring- did you check out that article on butthurt during your period? Maybe that's what your problem is.
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Sept 17, 2017 9:47:40 GMT
But DAO also had SJW pandering, yet you yourself said it was a good game. So again, how did SJW pandering ruin a game when a game you think is great also had SJW pandering? Hardly. The societal structure that existed was supported by lore. Then in DAI Bioware trampled over Qun lore to get a transexual tolerated and accepted. It had women treated equally and in positions of power. It had LGBT+ people shown in a positive light. Those are SJW things so not really "hardly". So it is only pandering if it goes against the lore? Okay then, but then by that rule how does the SJW pandering go against the lore in ME3 and MEA?
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Post by Hrulj on Sept 17, 2017 9:47:46 GMT
Or was Manveer Heir just a red herring- did you check out that article on butthurt during your period? Maybe that's what your problem is. Dude, I'm just gonna report you if you don't stop derailing the thread.
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Post by q5tyhj on Sept 17, 2017 9:49:03 GMT
Or was Manveer Heir just a red herring- did you check out that article on butthurt during your period? Maybe that's what your problem is. Dude, I'm just gonna report you if you don't stop derailing the thread. Nice try, I'm not the one who keeps changing the subject. If its not period-related butthurt, maybe look here: www.medicinenet.com/buttock_pain/symptoms.htm
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Post by q5tyhj on Sept 17, 2017 9:51:05 GMT
Have you experienced any incontinence as a result of your SJW-related butthurt?
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Post by Hrulj on Sept 17, 2017 9:51:36 GMT
Hardly. The societal structure that existed was supported by lore. Then in DAI Bioware trampled over Qun lore to get a transexual tolerated and accepted. It had women treated equally and in positions of power. It had LGBT+ people shown in a positive light. Those are SJW things so not really "hardly". So it is only pandering if it goes against the lore? Okay then, but then by that rule how does the SJW pandering go against the lore in ME3 and MEA? Again, having women in power is not SJW pandering. You had Qun, which saw women as nothing more than stay in the kitchen and be silent which provided contrast. In fact I'd be fine with them being accepting, if they were that from the start. As for ME, the pandering and projecting personal politics took premise over writing a good story. Trans characters with no personality traits other than being trans, whose dialogue can be summarised with "I'm trans, get it, just in case I didn't mention it enough, also nice to meet you for the first time" Jacob was a good character because he was a character primarily. Boring, dull and uninteresting, but that was his personality. He wasn't there just to have a black person. He was a nice guy. Not a black guy. In ME:A characters serve to fill a quota.
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Post by Hrulj on Sept 17, 2017 9:54:58 GMT
Have you experienced any incontinence as a result of your SJW-related butthurt? And reported. Bye
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Post by q5tyhj on Sept 17, 2017 9:57:48 GMT
Have you experienced any incontinence as a result of your SJW-related butthurt? And reported. Bye Loses (just gives up) argument, cries, reports... Better luck next time snowflake
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Sept 17, 2017 9:58:42 GMT
It had women treated equally and in positions of power. It had LGBT+ people shown in a positive light. Those are SJW things so not really "hardly". So it is only pandering if it goes against the lore? Okay then, but then by that rule how does the SJW pandering go against the lore in ME3 and MEA? Again, having women in power is not SJW pandering. You had Qun, which saw women as nothing more than stay in the kitchen and be silent which provided contrast. In fact I'd be fine with them being accepting, if they were that from the start. As for ME, the pandering and projecting personal politics took premise over writing a good story. Trans characters with no personality traits other than being trans, whose dialogue can be summarised with "I'm trans, get it, just in case I didn't mention it enough, also nice to meet you for the first time" Jacob was a good character because he was a character primarily. Boring, dull and uninteresting, but that was his personality. He wasn't there just to have a black person. He was a nice guy. Not a black guy. In ME:A characters serve to fill a quota. A lot of people on the Internet have accused having women in power as SJW pandering, so sorry if I get mixed up between what you consider it and what some others consider it. The Qun never saw women as just stay at home and be silent. They just never saw women as being able to be front line soldiers. The priesthood involves both men and women and that includes Ben-Hassrath who operate as secret police in Par Vollen and spies in Thedas and also teach and govern. That was established since the first game. Didn't Bioware fix that so it that conversation only happens later after you do a lot of things to help that person out? And other than her, what other characters in MEA are filling a quota? One minor character can't bring down a game by themselves since they get barely any content so weren't put ahead of the story.
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Post by Hrulj on Sept 17, 2017 10:07:08 GMT
Again, having women in power is not SJW pandering. You had Qun, which saw women as nothing more than stay in the kitchen and be silent which provided contrast. In fact I'd be fine with them being accepting, if they were that from the start. As for ME, the pandering and projecting personal politics took premise over writing a good story. Trans characters with no personality traits other than being trans, whose dialogue can be summarised with "I'm trans, get it, just in case I didn't mention it enough, also nice to meet you for the first time" Jacob was a good character because he was a character primarily. Boring, dull and uninteresting, but that was his personality. He wasn't there just to have a black person. He was a nice guy. Not a black guy. In ME:A characters serve to fill a quota. A lot of people on the Internet have accused having women in power as SJW pandering, so sorry if I get mixed up between what you consider it and what some others consider it. The Qun never saw women as just stay at home. They just never saw women as being able to be front line soldiers. The priesthood involves both men and women and that includes Ben-Hassrath who operate as secret police in Par Vollen and spies in Thedas. That was established since the first game. Didn't Bioware fix that so it that conversation only happens later after you do a lot of things to help that person out? And other than her, what other characters in MEA are filling a quota? One minor character can't bring down a game by themselves since they get barely any content so weren't put ahead of the story. Sten was the representative of the Qunari in the first game, suggested to have become the chief figure among them by now, and he was rather clearly amused at the idea that women would want to be anything other than women. I exagarated with the stay in the kitchen, but their views of social roles are strict. You are what you are, there's no changing it. Why would a smith want to become a peasant, why would a peasant want to become a warrior, and why would a woman want to be a man. That's their viewpoint. Come DAI and all of a sudden Qunary are some of the most tolerating people when it comes to societal and gender roles. That's pandering. Bioware fixed it due to the outrage it caused. Pushing identity politics is idiotic, protecting Manweer Heir and keeping him working, Hiring SJW animators for sake of their beliefs and then having them fuck it all up. List keeps on going.
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Post by Serza on Sept 17, 2017 10:12:40 GMT
Sounds like shots fired to me. Should report shots fired...
Hmm... Where did I put my radio? Ah. I'm sure I'll get around to finding it eventually...
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Sept 17, 2017 10:20:25 GMT
A lot of people on the Internet have accused having women in power as SJW pandering, so sorry if I get mixed up between what you consider it and what some others consider it. The Qun never saw women as just stay at home. They just never saw women as being able to be front line soldiers. The priesthood involves both men and women and that includes Ben-Hassrath who operate as secret police in Par Vollen and spies in Thedas. That was established since the first game. Didn't Bioware fix that so it that conversation only happens later after you do a lot of things to help that person out? And other than her, what other characters in MEA are filling a quota? One minor character can't bring down a game by themselves since they get barely any content so weren't put ahead of the story. Sten was the representative of the Qunari in the first game, suggested to have become the chief figure among them by now, and he was rather clearly amused at the idea that women would want to be anything other than women. I exagarated with the stay in the kitchen, but their views of social roles are strict. You are what you are, there's no changing it. Why would a smith want to become a peasant, why would a peasant want to become a warrior, and why would a woman want to be a man. That's their viewpoint. Come DAI and all of a sudden Qunary are some of the most tolerating people when it comes to societal and gender roles. That's pandering. Bioware fixed it due to the outrage it caused. Pushing identity politics is idiotic, protecting Manweer Heir and keeping him working, Hiring SJW animators for sake of their beliefs and then having them fuck it all up. List keeps on going. He is Arishok now, but the Arishok isn't the chief of the Qunari. The Arishok is the military leader, while the Arigena leads the civilians, and the Ariqun leads the religion. The three lead together as the Triumvirate, the Arishok representing the body, the Arigena the mind, and the Ariqun the soul. Arishok is always male, Arigena always female, and Ariqun can be male or female. I wouldn't say Sten was amused by it, but more confused hence asking the female Warden about it. Under the Qun the female Warden wouldn't be seen as a woman but as a man and yet the Warden still identifies as a woman creating a paradox for Sten. Meanwhile with Krem there is no issue since Krem identifies as a man thus him being in a male profession doesn't create a paradox. Where was it pushed other than a minor character that you never even have to talk to? Bioware fired Manveer Heir actually. How can animation be SJW? Also you never answered my question about what characters other than Hainly are there to fill a quota?
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Post by Hrulj on Sept 17, 2017 10:26:17 GMT
Sten was the representative of the Qunari in the first game, suggested to have become the chief figure among them by now, and he was rather clearly amused at the idea that women would want to be anything other than women. I exagarated with the stay in the kitchen, but their views of social roles are strict. You are what you are, there's no changing it. Why would a smith want to become a peasant, why would a peasant want to become a warrior, and why would a woman want to be a man. That's their viewpoint. Come DAI and all of a sudden Qunary are some of the most tolerating people when it comes to societal and gender roles. That's pandering. Bioware fixed it due to the outrage it caused. Pushing identity politics is idiotic, protecting Manweer Heir and keeping him working, Hiring SJW animators for sake of their beliefs and then having them fuck it all up. List keeps on going. He is Arishok now, but the Arishok isn't the chief of the Qunari. The Arishok is the military leader, while the Arigena leads the civilians, and the Ariqun leads the religion. The three lead together as the Triumvirate, the Arishok representing the body, the Arigena the mind, and the Ariqun the soul. Arishok is always male, Arigena always female, and Ariqun can be male or female. I wouldn't say Sten was amused by it, but more confused hence asking the female Warden about it. Under the Qun the female Warden wouldn't be seen as a woman but as a man and yet the Warden still identifies as a woman creating a paradox for Sten. Meanwhile with Krem there is no issue since Krem identifies as a man thus him being in a male profession doesn't create a paradox. Where was it pushed other than a minor character that you never even have to talk to? Bioware fired Manveer Heir actually. How can animation be SJW? Also you never answered my question about what characters other than Hainly are there to fill a quota? Most female characters, including the main character were designed along the SJW theory of male gaze and thus subsequently made heavily unnatractive.
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Sept 17, 2017 10:29:29 GMT
He is Arishok now, but the Arishok isn't the chief of the Qunari. The Arishok is the military leader, while the Arigena leads the civilians, and the Ariqun leads the religion. The three lead together as the Triumvirate, the Arishok representing the body, the Arigena the mind, and the Ariqun the soul. Arishok is always male, Arigena always female, and Ariqun can be male or female. I wouldn't say Sten was amused by it, but more confused hence asking the female Warden about it. Under the Qun the female Warden wouldn't be seen as a woman but as a man and yet the Warden still identifies as a woman creating a paradox for Sten. Meanwhile with Krem there is no issue since Krem identifies as a man thus him being in a male profession doesn't create a paradox. Where was it pushed other than a minor character that you never even have to talk to? Bioware fired Manveer Heir actually. How can animation be SJW? Also you never answered my question about what characters other than Hainly are there to fill a quota? Most female characters, including the main character were designed along the SJW theory of male gaze and thus subsequently made heavily unnatractive. That doesn't have anything to do with animation or characters filling quotas though(at least not in the same vein as what you were saying earlier like with Hainly and Jacob), so how are those things SJW? What is "SJW theory of male gaze"?
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Post by Psychevore on Sept 17, 2017 10:39:27 GMT
I'm sure you'd be glad to finally have such a relationship. Finally, for the first time in a game, you get to play yourself.
Good for you. Hope Bioware gives you what you want.
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Post by Fredward on Sept 17, 2017 10:41:09 GMT
The qunari perspective didn't change, people just don't get it.
The Qun sees everyone as a cog in a greater whole, you best serve society in a specific role. The role you would best fulfill take into consideration things like your natural skill set, inclination, intelligence, physical strength etc all factor in to what the priests (or was it teachers?) think your best role would be. Now, over time sex would have been broadly tied to occupation (ie males are larger and stronger, as a result they are consistently more suited for the army, over time we assume army = male) and the Qun's rigidity makes it easier to change how they view someone's gender (change on a micro level) than it is broaden the idea of roles (macro level). Role first, gender second. If the Qun decides you would best serve as a warrior despite being female you would and because the idea of warrior is male you would be seen as male regardless of your actual sex, because the role is gendered rather than you necessarily.
So Sten's confusion is with the Warden insisting that she is a woman and a warrior, instead of simply warrior which would automatically imply male in his mind.
You can still object ofc because people get exceedingly spastic about sjws but this explanation makes much more sense when you consider the macro and highly pragmatic stance the Qun takes. If a female is built like a semi and really enjoys punching things they aren't going to waste a valuable tool in the role of cook just cuz of her sex.
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Sept 17, 2017 10:49:46 GMT
The role you would best fulfill take into consideration things like your natural skill set, inclination, intelligence, physical strength etc all factor in to what the priests (or was it teachers?) think your best role would be. Same thing. The Qun priesthood, specifically the Tamassrans, is in charge of teaching children. The Tamassran have several different roles under their umbrella, from priestesses, teachers, evaluators, caregivers, therapists, and even sex slaves.
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Post by sageoflife on Sept 17, 2017 13:55:30 GMT
TC, do you also think people are "SJWs" if they object to a romance novel about a Jewish concentration camp inmate falling in love with a Nazi commandant and converting to Christianity?
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Post by SofaJockey on Sept 17, 2017 14:10:35 GMT
I think we're done here...
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