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Post by Dukemon on Dec 31, 2017 3:18:49 GMT
I am replaying the Trilogy but on PC because of Kaidan and mShep romance and now founded my few threads between MET and MEA. It felt on the one hand very unpleasant with this little movement in ME1 and ME2. No jumping or rolling, the gameplay in combat is very statically. On the other hand the old games taking time to introduce the protagonist and his environment. Who is Shepard? What is his Origins? The Story about him and how it affects his next business? Although he is a space military he has very few information about the galactic society, the cultures and traditions, that he gets to learn with the player. MEA says to player, here is Ryder, this is how he gets his authority and your freedom to play this game. When you want to know something about him you can read a codex page. Well, it is a little bit more in the game. Most information is Ryder telling about himself during conversation with others Could be cool, when the writer from Ryder would be a good one but I have my problems with Shepard from ME3, too. Shepard was in two games. he was more competent, tough, not to be underestimated. A little bit to nice to authority Alliance hierarchy, but he could say everything and make it happens. Suddenly in ME3 he has doubs in everything, his new naively statements (asking other nations for military support to help the earth because of earth... He mentions and presents first the bluprint from this weapon after his 'take your militarys from your home planet and help us to defend our home planet' is failured....) makes him an idiot. That comes from nowhere. Because of Shepard manner is so different in 3, I blame the new writter who has changed the character in 180 degree turn after two games. Ryder has similar moments where I was wondering why did yo do/say that. No matter if he has limited experience. He have got a n7 training... And because of he was put into the first group to explore unknown territory with science aspects I assume he should know something more than Shepard. In MEA the jet packs are cool idea to improve the Mass Effect gameplay, but the Micromanagement could be better again. I don't mean that opened combat classes. Sam was a simple but a good explanation. However this explanation was not finished and the irrelevance of Ryders training (biotic, tech....) in the plot and stories were missed opportunities. MEA wants not to be serious to distance himself from the Trilogy. However it collides with the Kett plot.
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Post by Andrew Lucas on Jan 2, 2018 2:45:15 GMT
Man, I think the OT cycle of playthroughs is over for me after more than ten replays for each game, I couldn't finish ME2 these days, and now that ME3 is slowing down a little after Palaven, the game is kinda feeling like a drag to go talk to everyone again and checklist that and checklist this before the next mission. At least Andromeda still is somewhat new after 2 playthroughs, and some less jank as well, not that it makes it better than the OT. Can anyone relate? I'm kinda lost.
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Post by flyingsquirrel on Jan 9, 2018 16:22:02 GMT
I haven't played the trilogy since mid-2016, so I've been planning to get back to it sometime soon. My "comfort zone" is playing Paragon FemShep (due to my own views and a preference for Hale over Meer), but I've been thinking about trying a utilitarian-minded Colonist Sole Survivor MShep too. The idea would be that he'd seen a lot of people close to him die, both as a teenager on Mindoir and as a soldier on Akuze, and he's become kind of distant and tries to make decisions based strictly on what he sees as "greatest good for the greatest number." (Not that he'd always be *right* about what actually results in the greatest good for the greatest number, just that it's his intended rationale. And I've heard there's kind of an interesting scene in ME3 if Shepard intends to sabotage the genophage but can't go through with shooting Mordin, so he might do that and then start being a little more Paragon for the rest of the game.)
The thing is, I'm never sure if I'll have time for another playthrough in the future, so I'm stuck weighing between playing it the way I most enjoy it and trying something new.
As for Andromeda, I do want to give it one more run (I only finished it once, shortly after it came out) now that I have a better sense of how the game works and its choppy pacing, hopefully avoiding spending so much time just driving around and fighting cookie-cutter battles. While some of the combat is clunky in the original trilogy, especially ME1, I didn't find the Andromeda combat *that* great either given the lack of control over my squad and the absurdity of the Nomad having no weapons at all.
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Post by Link"Guess"ski on Jan 26, 2018 4:09:06 GMT
I miss PeeBee's bubbly face but thats about it. At its best Andromeda feels like ME3: characters talk too much outside of dialogue trees and during combat, which is and always will be bad narrative design imo, the cinematic design is shit including cinematography, the script is cringy and also has this esoteric shyamalain quality to it, idk. It felt very unlikeable and i just miss ME2, the game when the stars aligned.
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Post by q5tyhj on Jan 29, 2018 4:26:59 GMT
Played Andromeda for a few months after release, haven't played it since probably June or July now. Went back to ME3mp pretty much immediately, just as fun as ever. Currently about to finish an ME2-ME3 playthrough I had started a couple months ago. There simply is no comparison: expectations aside, MEA was an OK game. It wasn't awful. But ME2 and 3 are two of the greatest video games ever, MEA doesn't even really deserve to be mentioned in the same sentence.
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Post by Rochrok on Jan 31, 2018 21:06:05 GMT
I haven't played the OT after MEA yet but I plan to. Just not soon. I had to get away from the whole thing for a while and I've been busier. I thought of playing MEA again with mods and I've never romanced Jaal as MRyder so that would at least be new and I heard they fixed the travel between planets. I may give it another shot, but I'm reluctant to reinstall it. The OT is still installed on my computer So I might play it first.
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Post by Link"Guess"ski on Jan 31, 2018 22:20:34 GMT
Hi fellow Mass Effect players! I wanted to know if any of you got back to the old trilogy after playing Andromeda. If you did, how did it felt? I, for example, missed the jetpack and faster gamestyle from Andromeda but absolutely loved the opportunity to control your squad. I also realized something that I had not thought of before: I really enjoy the more militant environment of Mass Effect 1 & 3. I like that we are part of the military and that the overall tune is more serious. I'll admit it actually took some getting used to which was surprising. I just finished the trilogy over the last 3 weeks again because I had vacation and suddenly I was just like "Hell yes!" and took the plunge. That said, once I was halfway through ME2 again I started thinking back on Andromeda and I my impression of it just in the thought of it waned like never before. Once you rediscover Mass Effect at its greatest moment you remember why the reactions to Andromeda were so negative and vitreolic again. Also, I used the MERecalibrated mods for ME2 and 3 which really enhances the experience if you've beaten those games once or twice already, (or 10 times). I also installed "Better Dreams" mod which is awesome by the way. Then I also used the Backoff Mod (neutral dialogue options yay) and the amazing, extraordinary, game-changing Expanded Galaxy Mod for Mass Effect 3 and finally the LIME (Less Is More) ending modification. Ending of 3 was still the lowest point but this time what stood out to me at the end of it all was the experience of 3 as a culmination of the other two games and not its final, ambiguous or asinine scenes and it excited me so much that I kinda wanna get into modding of UE3 and ME3Explorer now. I tried unpacking the audio files from various parts of 3 and found some unused clips from TIM. I have this idea for how you can basically reuse all dialogue from the endings but rearrange the timing and placement of the characters and when the things happen to make an ending with much more drive and tension from Shepard's POV and make the final choice an emotional struggle that resonates more with the fate of the galaxy and your friends than the faux "philosophical" aspect of it. I was still left feeling the biggest miss in ME3 is the lack of a small playable aftermath. I didn't use Citadel DLC and I didn't use Javik this time. I think keeping things mysterious and focused like that is a stronger experience. Citadel DLC is a decent epilogue though and you can mod it as such using the Citadel Epilogue mod. Overall, it was great experiencing it again. Tuchanka and Rannoch really felt impactful to me this time, and I felt like I listened more in the parts where I usually didn't care. Arguably it's because I've gotten older and I care more about the intellectual stuff than the spectacle, so I pay much more attention to the dialogue itself. I do contemplate on replaying Andromeda though. I'm just not looking forward to it.
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Post by kotoreffect3 on Feb 9, 2018 19:08:52 GMT
If Andromeda had the DLC it deserved it probably would've felt great by the end. No doubt, it is a shame that we will never get the MEA we were probably meant to get. MEA will always feel a bit incomplete.
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Post by sugarless on Feb 22, 2018 2:30:57 GMT
I've tried starting a new game of Andromeda. But I just can't get into it and find myself pining for the original (and the best!)
It's like when a company changes the flavour of a well-loved food product and the real fans notice.
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