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Post by thelonelypoet on Sept 23, 2017 15:29:56 GMT
Hi fellow Mass Effect players!
I wanted to know if any of you got back to the old trilogy after playing Andromeda. If you did, how did it felt?
I, for example, missed the jetpack and faster gamestyle from Andromeda but absolutely loved the opportunity to control your squad.
I also realized something that I had not thought of before: I really enjoy the more militant environment of Mass Effect 1 & 3. I like that we are part of the military and that the overall tune is more serious.
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Post by fraggle on Sept 23, 2017 16:29:00 GMT
Well, it was easy for me. MEA left a little taste in my mouth because it was so mediocre and I found the combat rather annoying. They removed everything I love about the MET, squad mate control, tactical pause (not that I use it, but the option is nice), Ammo powers, a class system, a fitting tone. Everything played like MP (and while I like ME3MP, I don't like this style for SP). I had planned at least 6 more playthroughs to play through each class again prior to MEA and I'm currently on my 8th run, and I started the 7th after playing MEA and two other games. I couldn't wait to get back into the trilogy. Story, characters, soundtrack, setting, combat, all much better for me than MEA. The magic that made ME special for me was back! I certainly don't hate MEA, but I was very disappointed. Even the voice actors felt mediocre in MEA for the most part, something I loved in every Bioware game I played so far. I'm just happy to be back to the trilogy and I won't stop playing it for some time
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Post by Upggrade on Sept 24, 2017 0:35:49 GMT
I'm putting off a trilogy run for a while because I don't want to burn myself out on it. I've already played them an ass load of times and I rarely play differently than usual, just don't want to wear it out. Although I'll probably jump back in soon.
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Post by kotoreffect3 on Sept 24, 2017 2:58:22 GMT
While I still like MEA well enough I don't love it the way I love the trilogy. Right now I am playing ME 1 and honestly the only thing I miss about MEA are the jump jets. I love having real fleshed out classes back. I love having squad control back. I love the fact that the game isn't getting lost in filler content. It's funny because my least favorite part of ME 1 is the one that reminds me most of MEA and that is how repetitive the sidequest UNC planets can get. And while it doesn't drive as well as the Nomad the Mako at least has a cannon.
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Post by themikefest on Sept 24, 2017 11:20:38 GMT
I can say that in 10 years, I will still be playing the trilogy whereas I can't say the same for MEA
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Post by tacsear on Sept 25, 2017 18:54:46 GMT
It felt good to be in the ME where I actually cared about stuff.
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Post by obbie1984 on Sept 26, 2017 6:37:51 GMT
The original trilogy does literally everything better. Everything.
Outside of graphics (and even that's debatable), I can't think of a single thing that MEA does better. I personally don't like the combat as much. I mean what's the point in having all that damn mobility if enemies are ridiculously accurate all the time? Observers are obnoxious and even cannon fodder enemies have super good aim. Not being able to control your team for synergy, explosions and feeling like a cohesive squad is a major strike against the combat.
I also didn't like MEA's more light hearted and humorous tone. The game wasn't even funny, and half the lines made you roll your eyes. If you're exploring a brand new galaxy, that's a pretty serious matter. Ryder doesn't act professional enough. You also cannot role play your character as much as you do in OT. You cannot do any renegade actions. I remember on Kadara I saw a bunch of looters robbing a dead guy. Instead of being able to threaten them or kill them, Ryder just lets the two scumbags curse him out and he goes on his merry way like a loser. Shepard could be roleplayed in many different ways and he was actually funnier than Ryder even as early as ME1.
I also had a huge problem with how the Krogan were portrayed. They didn't act like Krogan at all. Outside of Drack all the other male Krogans were wimps and the effeminate lisping Krogan sounded awful. Its not just the krogan. All the alien races felt a little off as the voice acting and aesthetic of the characters seemed wrong. The exploration can get really tedious, and many of the side quests are just mundane. The story was also a poor man's retread of the OT except you just didn't care. There are some good things here and there. The dialogue on the Nomad is mostly good and I did like Drack and Cora.
But when you play the OT, you just feel like you have more control and the things you do actually matter.
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Post by obbie1984 on Sept 26, 2017 6:48:49 GMT
Sorry for the double post, but this video completely explains everything wrong with the Krogan (especially the females in MEA). That awful fight scene and how that female Krogan sound is just awful. The last few seconds of the video had me dying of laughter though. I'm pretty sure its not meant to be funny, but seriously... what the hell is that noise she makes?
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Post by AnDromedary on Sept 26, 2017 15:46:37 GMT
I did start an ME Trilogy run almost immediately after finishing Andromeda. While the MAKO usually doesn't bother me at all, it did feel really sluggish and it did get on my nerves at times in direct comparison to the Nomad.
Otherwise, the trilogy just felt as brilliant as ever. I must have played through it at least 5 times (ME1 and 2 MUCH more often), so I know it almost too well at this point. However, after Andromeda it struck me how on point most of the dialogues in the trilogy are. Almost all characters are so multi-faceted and interesting, something that Andromeda couldn't even come close to IMO. Sure, there are exceptions (Tali and her codex dialogues in ME1 come to mind) but in general, going back to the trilogy right after Andromeda just reinforced how great the writing is most of the time, especially when it comes to the characters. Also, they seem to have some sort of genuine chemistry together, especially in ME3, when they interact more with each other. In Andromeda, despite all the banter and the movie night and what not, that same feeing of genuine friendship between the characters doesn't quite emerge. Now, of course, the trilogy, consisting of 3 games has a massive advantage in that regard because of it's sheer length but I also think it's got to do with everything from writing to voice acting to pacing, etc.
In short, apart from some minor issues with controlling the MAKO, coming back to the trilogy after Andromeda felt really good. I am not one of those bashers who said that Andromeda is a super bad game or anything like that but some of ME:A's weaknesses only emphasized what a marvelous achievement the trilogy was despite the fact that it too is by no means free of flaws.
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Post by dmc1001 on Sept 26, 2017 18:36:56 GMT
I never really stopped playing the trilogy. I played it less during my 2 months of MEA but the fact is that the storyline and romance is what makes it for me. I never got my "Kaidan Alenko" in MEA, it became clear over time I never would, so I lost interest. I'm a mShenko guy through and through and it remains my standard.
Beyond that, I felt like not full story was forthcoming with MEA. When a novel and comics and said be how things get wrapped up, I lose any faith that future MEA games are coming. Coming back to MET was like coming home from a trip. It was entertaining but not "home".
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Post by nvanfleet on Oct 2, 2017 17:31:39 GMT
I *just* finished my first complete Trilogy run-through (having only played ME2 before Andromeda); and immediately started again from the beginning. While I like the combat in Andromeda more and especially miss the ease of travelling around on foot, the story and everything else just seems so... empty in comparison. There isn't as much *there* there, I guess? I dunno. I played Vanguard the first way through and now I'm going Adept (I like the space-magic, what can I say?).
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Post by Inosha T'Rynn on Oct 3, 2017 17:18:50 GMT
I'm playing the OT right alongside with ME:A. I keep trying to scan things in the OT, and missing a gun on the Nomad.
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Post by brfritos on Oct 4, 2017 7:39:50 GMT
I never really stopped playing the trilogy. I played it less during my 2 months of MEA but the fact is that the storyline and romance is what makes it for me. I never got my "Kaidan Alenko" in MEA, it became clear over time I never would, so I lost interest. I'm a mShenko guy through and through and it remains my standard.
Of course you can, but now its a she, not a he and her name is Cora Harper.
Reagarding the rest... her personality is a carbon copy of Kaidan.
Even the good and bad are the same.
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Post by dmc1001 on Oct 4, 2017 15:51:48 GMT
I never really stopped playing the trilogy. I played it less during my 2 months of MEA but the fact is that the storyline and romance is what makes it for me. I never got my "Kaidan Alenko" in MEA, it became clear over time I never would, so I lost interest. I'm a mShenko guy through and through and it remains my standard. Of course you can, but now its a she, not a he and her name is Cora Harper.
Reagarding the rest... her personality is a carbon copy of Kaidan.
Even the good and bad are the same. In case it wasn't clear: I was referring to a male same sex romance of the quality of Kaidan Alenko. I figured by now I don't need to spell this stuff out.
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Post by Sondergaard on Oct 4, 2017 16:57:18 GMT
Of course you can, but now its a she, not a he and her name is Cora Harper.
Reagarding the rest... her personality is a carbon copy of Kaidan.
Even the good and bad are the same. In case it wasn't clear: I was referring to a male same sex romance of the quality of Kaidan Alenko. I figured by now I don't need to spell this stuff out. You don't. He's taking the piss.
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Post by brfritos on Oct 4, 2017 20:05:40 GMT
Of course you can, but now its a she, not a he and her name is Cora Harper.
Reagarding the rest... her personality is a carbon copy of Kaidan.
Even the good and bad are the same. In case it wasn't clear: I was referring to a male same sex romance of the quality of Kaidan Alenko. I figured by now I don't need to spell this stuff out.
I know dmc101. I was being ironic, not judgmental.
I know what you like.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 18, 2017 23:01:33 GMT
I just started another run a few days ago and I'm not sure I'll go through. I feared as much, it's hard to get back to the combat of the MET after the imo much better one of MEA. Of course the best thing about ME1 is its story, but I find it hard to care anymore after 20 playthroughs or so. It's just routine now, and for that the gameplay just isn't good enough. The levels are also pretty linear, that's another thing I liked about MEA, that I can just explore the area, go treasure hunting etc. Makes me a bit sad, as I consider ME1 one of my favourite games of all time.
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Post by correctamundo on Dec 3, 2017 21:21:18 GMT
I have tried to pick up my ME2 game. It is nearing the end but it feels like I'm in confinement so I will have to a while before I'm ready again. 😎
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Post by sil on Dec 4, 2017 16:32:45 GMT
I'm not playing the MET so much as modding, enjoying it but I kind of want to replay ME:A again. ^^
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Post by aoibhealfae on Dec 6, 2017 1:53:31 GMT
I'm still neutral about Andromeda... in parts because if I want to compare it to the trilogy, I'll wait when Andromeda become a trilogy. Savvy...
And I definitely like Andromeda a lot more when I'm playing ME1. Going from Nomad to Mako is unpleasant and the dozens of square empty worlds is boring. And I do miss jetpacks but I feel this a lot more in Dragon Age Inquisition because I hate jumping in that game.
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Post by Obsidian Gryphon on Dec 6, 2017 2:57:37 GMT
I didn't replay the trilogy; on hiatus. But I'm a constant player in ME3 MP. I've played the Andromeda campaign from beginning to end, and the mp which I abandoned not soon after.
I feel I'm back home with ME3 MP. I don't miss the jetpack one bit. The biotic combos are biting and powerful (the sound effects have oomph and it's gratifying to see mobs flying all over the place), the weapons are diverse and robust. I can melee properly (every race has their unique melee), I can grab mobs over covers and stab them dead. I enjoy watching mobs swoop helplessly up in the air when I cast biotics and watch the occasional amusing incidents with other players.
Andromeda is not a bad game but it feels very empty in everything, has no impact and is not memorable for me.
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Post by dmc1001 on Dec 6, 2017 3:21:00 GMT
Andromeda is not a bad game but it feels very empty in everything, has no impact and is not memorable for me. This is how I feel. MEA isn't bad but it doesn't really resolve anything. It doesn't even put an end to the the threat of the kett, just that one guy. True, the same could be said of ME1, but it left us with the knowledge that Shep was out there preparing for the coming threat. Too many cliffhangers in MEA. The idea that some of it is being resolved in books makes me lack interest. I can't play the game and "finish". I have to read a book instead.
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Post by sil on Dec 6, 2017 9:08:15 GMT
If Andromeda had the DLC it deserved it probably would've felt great by the end.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 6, 2017 21:20:00 GMT
If Andromeda had the DLC it deserved it probably would've felt great by the end. Considering how much greatness some DLC added to the trilogy games, it's sad to see Andromeda being denied that treatment. There was a lot of potential there.
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Post by brfritos on Dec 30, 2017 21:29:43 GMT
Andromeda is not a bad game but it feels very empty in everything, has no impact and is not memorable for me. This is how I feel. MEA isn't bad but it doesn't really resolve anything. It doesn't even put an end to the the threat of the kett, just that one guy. True, the same could be said of ME1, but it left us with the knowledge that Shep was out there preparing for the coming threat. Too many cliffhangers in MEA. The idea that some of it is being resolved in books makes me lack interest. I can't play the game and "finish". I have to read a book instead. I think the problem with MEA not resolving his cliffhangers has to do with the game being engineered from the start as a "trilogy". You can say the original ME was designed to be a trilogy, but let's not forget that about a year and half before the lauch of ME1 Bioware was purchased by EA. I think they weren't entirely sure about the success of the frenchise, so more situations were resolved right in the first game, which in return contributed to the game success. It's just intuition and how the business was conducted at the time, so I could be wrong of course. But if you look at the MET, Bioware took a lot of risks with the story and characters. Not talking about if they were right or wrong, but at least you had a dynamic going on. MEA feels so safe regarding this elements on the other hand. I think the worst part is MEA feels like a reboot of MET. They switched what races are responsible for, changed some facts, but the core elements were the same as the first ME1. Worst. The story and its course follow the same pattern. I mean, common! I'm in another galaxy with free roam to do whatever I want. I liked how the planets change depending Ryder's actions, Eos and Kadara are very good examples.
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