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Post by Sifr on Dec 25, 2017 9:19:51 GMT
Whatever idiot decided that all the fancy tech and equipment on the Nexus, necessary for colonisation to actually have a chance of success, required Pathfinder/SAM authorisation before it could be accessed.
Followed closely by whoever decided a Pathfinder/SAM shouldn't be on the Nexus (which was sent ahead of the Arks), so that the Nexus could get things set up straight out of the gate for the first wave of colonists arrived. Rather than be forced to wait 14 months for someone to come along who can unlock most of the systems on the station.
Whoever was responsible for such a catastrophic oversight should have been forced to take a short trip into the nearby blackhole.
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Post by therevanchist25 on Dec 25, 2017 14:03:53 GMT
Everyone, absolutely everyone, in the entire game not named Kesh.
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Post by Dukemon on Dec 28, 2017 15:43:53 GMT
I guess a lot of the Stupidities of the figures comes from the writers. Most plot progresses were made to go on, no matter it make sense. The Kett were not really a clever enemies only overpowered (and this because of to have a overpowered enemie), but the Tempest crew were clever and smart until the plot needed they dumb than they were dumb. I relay on the moment where they enter the Kett ship to find the Meridian Map. The thing in itself, I think, is already badly written, with Archon can see Ryders memories, but this careless handling with this information was terrible. Neither the Tempest crew nor the others on the Nexus did anything to be prepair about this lack of security.
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Post by kotoreffect3 on Feb 10, 2018 4:29:25 GMT
Whoever thought that leaving the Arks without any sort of defensive weaponry was fine.
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Post by colfoley on Feb 11, 2018 4:10:19 GMT
Whoever thought that leaving the Arks without any sort of defensive weaponry was fine. they have a fighter force right?
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Post by kotoreffect3 on Feb 11, 2018 6:30:21 GMT
Whoever thought that leaving the Arks without any sort of defensive weaponry was fine. they have a fighter force right? well don't quote me but if I remember some of the promotional videos correctly they had a fighter escort on their way out of the milky way but they were sitting ducks after they reached the Milky Way's edge.
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Post by colfoley on Feb 11, 2018 6:35:11 GMT
they have a fighter force right? well don't quote me but if I remember some of the promotional videos correctly they had a fighter escort on their way out of the milky way but they were sitting ducks after they reached the Milky Way's edge. ok
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Post by KrrKs on Feb 11, 2018 15:18:24 GMT
At least the Nexus has some Trident fighters. I believe the Arks have too. I'd have to play the prologue again to be sure, but there should be one visible during the intro-hangar scene and again onboard the asari ark.
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Post by bshep on Feb 11, 2018 17:12:57 GMT
Yes they have trident fighters inside Hyperion's hangar.
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Post by Link"Guess"ski on Feb 13, 2018 20:12:44 GMT
Anyone who joined the initiative who wasn't aware of the Reapers's existence.
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Post by dmc1001 on Feb 14, 2018 4:20:03 GMT
Anyone who joined the initiative who wasn't aware of the Reapers's existence. Unless you were following your father...
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Post by Link"Guess"ski on Feb 14, 2018 12:45:58 GMT
Anyone who joined the initiative who wasn't aware of the Reapers's existence. Unless you were following your father... Sure, except if you are gullible enough to believe him when he says "we'll go there to EXPLORE"
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Post by Iakus on Feb 20, 2018 16:27:07 GMT
Whoever thought that leaving the Arks without any sort of defensive weaponry was fine. This is why I'm inclined to nominate Jien Garson, despite already being dead. This entire half-baked excursion was her idea. And she didn't have the Reapers as an excuse. the AI started years before Shepard learned about them.
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Post by themikefest on Feb 20, 2018 18:26:29 GMT
This is why I'm inclined to nominate Jien Garson, despite already being dead. This entire half-baked excursion was her idea. And she didn't have the Reapers as an excuse. the AI started years before Shepard learned about them. Since you mention her, why not mention Alec Ryder as well? The guy was an N7. Why wouldn't he suggest having some kind of defensive system in place for the ships and Nexus?
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Post by Iakus on Feb 26, 2018 16:48:09 GMT
This is why I'm inclined to nominate Jien Garson, despite already being dead. This entire half-baked excursion was her idea. And she didn't have the Reapers as an excuse. the AI started years before Shepard learned about them. Since you mention her, why not mention Alec Ryder as well? The guy was an N7. Why wouldn't he suggest having some kind of defensive system in place for the ships and Nexus? True, but his life was so screwed up it's entirely plausible he expected to die anyway. Dying wife, career a complete dumpster fire due the whole illegal AI experimentation, almost completely estranged from his kids, who's careers he screwed up too. Why not one last suicide mission with these idiots? Then he learned about the Reapers...
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Post by themikefest on Feb 26, 2018 16:54:33 GMT
True, but his life was so screwed up it's entirely plausible he expected to die anyway. Dying wife, career a complete dumpster fire due the whole illegal AI experimentation, almost completely estranged from his kids, who's careers he screwed up too. Why not one last suicide mission with these idiots? Then he learned about the Reapers... So if he believes he will die why not take everyone else with him? Ha. If he had a deathwish, he would have stormed that artifact instead of waiting for anyone to show up and to set those charges to cause a distraction.
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Post by Iakus on Feb 26, 2018 16:57:31 GMT
True, but his life was so screwed up it's entirely plausible he expected to die anyway. Dying wife, career a complete dumpster fire due the whole illegal AI experimentation, almost completely estranged from his kids, who's careers he screwed up too. Why not one last suicide mission with these idiots? Then he learned about the Reapers... So if he believes he will die why not take everyone else with him? Ha. If he had a deathwish, he would have stormed that artifact instead of waiting for anyone to show up and to set those charges to cause a distraction. Like I said, with knowledge of the Reapers, NOW he has a vested interest in the Initiative succeeding. Half-*ssed though the AI was.
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Post by themikefest on Feb 26, 2018 17:03:00 GMT
If the reapers gave him that much of a vested interest, why didn't he suggest putting defenses on the ships and Nexus?
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Post by Sifr on Feb 26, 2018 23:12:04 GMT
If the reapers gave him that much of a vested interest, why didn't he suggest putting defenses on the ships and Nexus? It was meant to be a civilian project, so turning the Nexus into a dreadnought would not have flown with any authority back in the MW. Plus there's the issue of bad PR, both home and away. It was going to be hard enough to get people to sign up for a one-way trip to another galaxy, let alone if you tell them you plan to turn their colony ship into a decked out warship. And if Andromeda has people already living in it, you can't exactly sell the notion of "We come in peace" if you show up on the back of a giant gun strapped to an engine. Alec might have urged more defenses, but could have been shot down by the civilian leadership of the AI. They probably told him that when it came to defense, that's what he (and their other armed forces) were meant to be there for.
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Post by themikefest on Feb 26, 2018 23:23:59 GMT
It was meant to be a civilian project, so turning the Nexus into a dreadnought would not have flown with any authority back in the MW. Putting defensive, note the word defensive, systems on a ship does not turn it into a dreadnought. Look how well that force worked when Archie was able to get within Nexus airspace and board the Hyperion. In fact where was this so-called force when Archie took the Hyperion?
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Post by Sifr on Feb 27, 2018 0:17:13 GMT
Putting defensive, note the word defensive, systems on a ship does not turn it into a dreadnought. Ah, I see your point. Yeah, some decent point-defense systems and shielding on the Nexus and the Arks wouldn't have hurt. If ship-mounted offensive weapons were out of the question, they could have at least gone into Andromeda a little more tankier than they seemed to have been. Agreed, that entire sequence felt really jarring. Even if we presume Archon found the Nexus when he lo-jacked SAM, I don't know how much I buy the Kett steamrolling through both ships as easily as they did. The Asari and Turian Arks managed to put up heavy resistance (and trashing the place in the process) before their vessels were overrun. And those guys didn't have Nexus reinforcements available to them! Was everyone on the Hyperion on a coffee break, where was security?
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Post by Ahriman on Feb 27, 2018 10:27:32 GMT
Even if we presume Archon found the Nexus when he lo-jacked SAM, I don't know how much I buy the Kett steamrolling through both ships as easily as they did. The Asari and Turian Arks managed to put up heavy resistance (and trashing the place in the process) before their vessels were overrun. And those guys didn't have Nexus reinforcements available to them! Was everyone on the Hyperion on a coffee break, where was security? It's almost like they wrote Point A - "Initiative ships hide from main Kett fleet" and Point B - "Archon hijacks Hyperion with sibling onboard" but didn't have the time to think how two could relate.
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Post by invisibleman on Feb 27, 2018 11:41:31 GMT
any of the idiot rioters in hydroponics. we don't care! let our families out of stasis... so we can watch them die slowly do to starvation, dehydration, or asphyxiation...
yeah... not rocket scientists there. so, why did we thaw-out those particular morons again?
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Post by dmc1001 on Feb 27, 2018 17:45:09 GMT
any of the idiot rioters in hydroponics. we don't care! let our families out of stasis... so we can watch them die slowly do to starvation, dehydration, or asphyxiation... yeah... not rocket scientists there. so, why did we thaw-out those particular morons again? The rioters all had needed skills, and so were thawed. Their families lacked those skills, and remained on ice. In any case, I think I'm changing my vote from Addison to Spender. He's an ass and his actions have caused the downfall of many, caused the krogan to leave, caused there to be a lack of resources aboard the Nexus...
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Post by bshep on Feb 27, 2018 19:40:44 GMT
any of the idiot rioters in hydroponics. we don't care! let our families out of stasis... so we can watch them die slowly do to starvation, dehydration, or asphyxiation... yeah... not rocket scientists there. so, why did we thaw-out those particular morons again? The rioters all had needed skills, and so were thawed. Their families lacked those skills, and remained on ice. In any case, I think I'm changing my vote from Addison to Spender. He's an ass and his actions have caused the downfall of many, caused the krogan to leave, caused there to be a lack of resources aboard the Nexus... Lots of people got out of stasis earlier by mistake when the crash against a scourge cloud open several pods, like Sid for instance.
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