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Post by griffith82 on Oct 5, 2017 21:27:08 GMT
Gah that movie is terrible.
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Post by Guts on Oct 6, 2017 1:39:46 GMT
Gah that movie is terrible. That scene was pretty awesome though.
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Post by Guts on Oct 6, 2017 1:42:03 GMT
Who's the director? Is it Uwe Boll?
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Post by Superhik on Oct 6, 2017 2:00:48 GMT
Who's the director? Is it Uwe Boll? He retired, some time ago. Think he tried to kickstart a movie, and..it didn't go well. His farewell video was hilarious...he gave a finger to everyone, including his fans. Seriously his best work.
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Post by Guts on Oct 6, 2017 2:03:18 GMT
Who's the director? Is it Uwe Boll? He retired, some time ago. Think he tried to kickstart a movie, and..it didn't go well. His farewell video was hilarious...he gave a finger to everyone, including his fans. Seriously his best work. EDIT: Uwe Boll is probably one of the douchiest film directors I've seen.
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Post by kino on Oct 6, 2017 2:14:54 GMT
He retired, some time ago. Think he tried to kickstart a movie, and..it didn't go well. His farewell video was hilarious...he gave a finger to everyone, including his fans. Seriously his best work. EDIT: Uwe Boll is probably one of the douchiest film directors I've seen. heh...a Uwe Boll joke and a John Cleese gif. Not bad, man. Not bad at all.
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Post by Guts on Oct 6, 2017 2:37:01 GMT
No, please.. don't make a film based on Mass Effect. This rumour has been kicking around for ages, (I think there was even an IMDb entry at one stage), but thankfully pre-production stopped. It's probably been canned, at least for now. At most, I'd like to see an original film or TV series based around the events of the trilogy, not just retelling them outright. There's a reason why role-playing games work so well within the medium.. translating games to something as linear and static as film is a terrible idea. Unfortunately, that hasn't stopped publishers and film studios trying to use fan service to whip up a quick buck in the past. Video game movies in general aren't good. There are like one or two that received more mixed reception, like the Mortal Kombat film. (Not annihilation, that film was panned)
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Post by xassantex on Oct 6, 2017 3:19:46 GMT
i think they've made an excellent movie, with an awesome cast, a super director, amazing CGI , but everything came to a halt in the end: they can't decide which ending to choose. O , O or O .
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Post by KaiserShep on Oct 6, 2017 5:32:14 GMT
This is so painful, in the best way possible.
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Post by guanxi on Oct 6, 2017 10:24:21 GMT
Not heard anything I think we can safely assume it's dead.
In my opinion the only way to make a movie adaptation would be to split the ME1 story into a trilogy and have the Battle of the Citadel be the (un-official) end of the Reaper plot like this:
Mass Effect (I) Plot: Beginning, Eden Prime, Citadel (Meeting Garrus, Tali, & Wrex, becoming First Human Spectre), Normandy flying off into the Distance to Faunts / Ending Song Mass Effect Part II plot: Normandy speech, meeting crew, rescuing Liara, Noveria, Virmire Mass Effect Part III plot: Feros, Defying the council, Ilos, Battle of the Citadel
Afterwards they could go off-book and do a whole series of original standalone movies featuring Shepard (acting as Spectre) and the original normandy cast on brand new adventures which could also re-introduce existing ME2 characters (e.g. Thane, Miranda, Illusive Man, etc.) and post-ME1 source material (e.g. Shadow Broker, Migrant Fleet, House Divided, Omega, From Ashes, Leviathan, etc.) reworked specifically for movie or tv format.
(Should they ever decide eventually to bring back the collectors/suicide mission, & reapers say right at the end of the run of any successful movie or tv series that would also be a remote/distant possibility like the Infinity War movies for the Avengers).
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Post by cribbian on Oct 6, 2017 12:57:31 GMT
I doubt this movie was ever not on hold.
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Post by Vall on Oct 6, 2017 14:39:30 GMT
Not heard anything I think we can safely assume it's dead. In my opinion the only way to make a movie adaptation would be to split the ME1 story into a trilogy and have the Battle of the Citadel be the (un-official) end of the Reaper plot like this: Mass Effect (I) Plot: Beginning, Eden Prime, Citadel (Meeting Garrus, Tali, & Wrex, becoming First Human Spectre), Normandy flying off into the Distance to Faunts / Ending Song Mass Effect Part II plot: Normandy speech, meeting crew, rescuing Liara, Noveria, Virmire Mass Effect Part III plot: Feros, Defying the council, Ilos, Battle of the Citadel No, no, NO! You can't just make movie about Shepard, that would be taking away everything about them that makes them interesting! Just the fact that you would have to pick their gender seems wrong, unless you make it story of two Shepards, which would force drastic changes the story. Making a movie (a medium that's completely linear) would be fundamentally misunderstanding what makes Shepard stand out from all the other "action heroes". Half the Shepard's appeal is making the character your own, having trilogy be your own story. You can't portray Shepard the right way, because no two Shepards are the same. You can't even really make a mention of Shepard as symbol because they can be either symbol of hope (Paragon) or ruhtless terminator who gets the job done no matter what (Renegade) and everything in between. I'm not opposed to exposing movie audiences to the world of Mass Effect, but using Shepard (or Ryder for that matter) would be completely wrong way to do it. Give it original characters, either completely new story or story within part of history if you want something bigger, like Relay 314 Incident or...something else humanity played part in (because nobody will do human-less story unless it's animated)
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Post by guanxi on Oct 6, 2017 16:24:49 GMT
Not heard anything I think we can safely assume it's dead. In my opinion the only way to make a movie adaptation would be to split the ME1 story into a trilogy and have the Battle of the Citadel be the (un-official) end of the Reaper plot like this: Mass Effect (I) Plot: Beginning, Eden Prime, Citadel (Meeting Garrus, Tali, & Wrex, becoming First Human Spectre), Normandy flying off into the Distance to Faunts / Ending Song Mass Effect Part II plot: Normandy speech, meeting crew, rescuing Liara, Noveria, Virmire Mass Effect Part III plot: Feros, Defying the council, Ilos, Battle of the Citadel No, no, NO! You can't just make movie about Shepard, that would be taking away everything about them that makes them interesting! Just the fact that you would have to pick their gender seems wrong, unless you make it story of two Shepards, which would force drastic changes the story. Making a movie (a medium that's completely linear) would be fundamentally misunderstanding what makes Shepard stand out from all the other "action heroes". Half the Shepard's appeal is making the character your own, having trilogy be your own story. You can't portray Shepard the right way, because no two Shepards are the same. You can't even really make a mention of Shepard as symbol because they can be either symbol of hope (Paragon) or ruhtless terminator who gets the job done no matter what (Renegade) and everything in between. I'm not opposed to exposing movie audiences to the world of Mass Effect, but using Shepard (or Ryder for that matter) would be completely wrong way to do it. Give it original characters, either completely new story or story within part of history if you want something bigger, like Relay 314 Incident or...something else humanity played part in (because nobody will do human-less story unless it's animated) Yes, Yes, absolutely yes precisely because Shepard and Ryder are not predefined characters like Nathan Drake or Lara Croft - they are completely open to interpretation which makes Mass Effect uniquely suitable to a movie adaptation even more-so than James Bond because Shepard and Ryder are Roles NOT characters... there are no right or wrong answers here. I have no problem whosoever with having a casting director and executive producer create their own vision of the first Human Spectre or Pathfinder... Even if I disagree significantly with their interpretation and artistic choices in service of adapting the property for mainstream film going audiences because what right do you or I have to say NO, THAT'S NOT HOW IT SHOULD BE AT ALL! If you've got one chance to make a Mass Effect movie with the orignal source material you tell THE New Hope of the story not Rogue One. Personally, I'm only really interested in more Mass Effect games and movies with the actual cast/ensemble of Mass Effect not a bunch of random dudes doing who cares what in some extended universe b.s.... Avengers isn't Avengers without the Avengers and Mass Effect isn't Mass Effect without Garrus, Tali, Wrex and Liara et al. It would so be worthwhile bearing a re-tread of the first game for the first couple of movies with gritted teeth just to get to the point where we can start to have original material with the Normandy crew. The movie cannon should be considered completely separate to the games and eventually the movies will develop into completely their own thing in time.
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Post by Vall on Oct 6, 2017 17:44:58 GMT
No, no, NO! You can't just make movie about Shepard, that would be taking away everything about them that makes them interesting! Just the fact that you would have to pick their gender seems wrong, unless you make it story of two Shepards, which would force drastic changes the story. Making a movie (a medium that's completely linear) would be fundamentally misunderstanding what makes Shepard stand out from all the other "action heroes". Half the Shepard's appeal is making the character your own, having trilogy be your own story. You can't portray Shepard the right way, because no two Shepards are the same. You can't even really make a mention of Shepard as symbol because they can be either symbol of hope (Paragon) or ruhtless terminator who gets the job done no matter what (Renegade) and everything in between. I'm not opposed to exposing movie audiences to the world of Mass Effect, but using Shepard (or Ryder for that matter) would be completely wrong way to do it. Give it original characters, either completely new story or story within part of history if you want something bigger, like Relay 314 Incident or...something else humanity played part in (because nobody will do human-less story unless it's animated) Yes, Yes, absolutely yes precisely because Shepard and Ryder are not predefined characters like Nathan Drake or Lara Croft - they are completely open to interpretation which makes Mass Effect uniquely suitable to a movie adaptation even more-so than James Bond because Shepard and Ryder are Roles NOT characters... there are no right or wrong answers here. I have no problem whosoever with having a casting director and executive producer create their own vision of the first Human Spectre or Pathfinder... Even if I disagree significantly with their interpretation and artistic choices in service of adapting the property for mainstream film going audiences because what right do you or I have to say NO, THAT'S NOT HOW IT SHOULD BE AT ALL! Personally, I'm only interested in more Mass Effect games and movies with the actual cast/ensemble of Mass Effect not a bunch of random dudes doing who cares what in some extended universe b.s. Star Trek isn't Star Trek without Kirk and Spock and Mass Effect isn't Mass Effect without Garrus, Tali, Wrex and Liara et al. It would so be worth bearing a re-tread of the first game for the first couple of movies just to get to the point where we can start to have original Mass Effect stories with the Normandy crew that diverge significantly from ME2-ME3. The movie cannon should be considered completely separate to the games and they should go on to become completely their own thing in time. Disagree with the bolded. Yes, there are no right answers...instead, all the answers are wrong. Whatever you choose, it will be wrong for everyone who chose differently. I don't want to see Shepard in different format, I'm familiar with them, I've been them for 3 games and countless hours. Character on big screen won't sound the same, won't look the same, probably won't even be the same gender as my Shepard and most likely won't be the same character in general. Why call them Shepard then? Why restrict yourself to retelling a story that has been told in different form, when the setting of said story is interesting enough to sustain other stories? You can do so much more with it I think. And while the adaptation would be aimed at movie audiences instead of me, I want to be able to enjoy it too, which I wouldn't be able to if it was about (not)Shepard. Creating a different story avoids these, while still keeping the setting and movie creators would be free to create something new and interesting without being restricted to framework of previous work in different medium. And it would be much more likely to succeed if it wasn't labeled as video-game movie (though that would be hard to do with "Mass Effect" in the name...or maybe I'm overestimating how known ME is) And what right do I or you have to say "That's wrong"? We've been given tools to craft our own story within certain bounds, to go back and take that away would be mean. Sure, they could say it's not canon but...there would still be sneaking suspicion that that's how those character were supposed to be according to them and that doesn't sit well with me.
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Post by The Biotic Trebuchet on Oct 6, 2017 18:28:10 GMT
Who's the director? Is it Uwe Boll? He retired, some time ago. Think he tried to kickstart a movie, and..it didn't go well. His farewell video was hilarious...he gave a finger to everyone, including his fans. Seriously his best work. seems like a ...swell guy.
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Post by guanxi on Oct 6, 2017 18:38:13 GMT
I Yes, Yes, absolutely yes precisely because Shepard and Ryder are not predefined characters like Nathan Drake or Lara Croft - they are completely open to interpretation which makes Mass Effect uniquely suitable to a movie adaptation even more-so than James Bond because Shepard and Ryder are Roles NOT characters... there are no right or wrong answers here. I have no problem whosoever with having a casting director and executive producer create their own vision of the first Human Spectre or Pathfinder... Even if I disagree significantly with their interpretation and artistic choices in service of adapting the property for mainstream film going audiences because what right do you or I have to say NO, THAT'S NOT HOW IT SHOULD BE AT ALL! Personally, I'm only interested in more Mass Effect games and movies with the actual cast/ensemble of Mass Effect not a bunch of random dudes doing who cares what in some extended universe b.s. Star Trek isn't Star Trek without Kirk and Spock and Mass Effect isn't Mass Effect without Garrus, Tali, Wrex and Liara et al. It would so be worth bearing a re-tread of the first game for the first couple of movies just to get to the point where we can start to have original Mass Effect stories with the Normandy crew that diverge significantly from ME2-ME3. The movie cannon should be considered completely separate to the games and they should go on to become completely their own thing in time. Disagree with the bolded. Yes, there are no right answers...instead, all the answers are wrong. Whatever you choose, it will be wrong for everyone who chose differently. I don't want to see Shepard in different format, I'm familiar with them, I've been them for 3 games and countless hours. Character on big screen won't sound the same, won't look the same, probably won't even be the same gender as my Shepard and most likely won't be the same character in general. Why call them Shepard then? Why restrict yourself to retelling a story that has been told in different form, when the setting of said story is interesting enough to sustain other stories? You can do so much more with it I think. And while the adaptation would be aimed at movie audiences instead of me, I want to be able to enjoy it too, which I wouldn't be able to if it was about (not)Shepard. Creating a different story avoids these, while still keeping the setting and movie creators would be free to create something new and interesting without being restricted to framework of previous work in different medium. And it would be much more likely to succeed if it wasn't labeled as video-game movie (though that would be hard to do with "Mass Effect" in the name...or maybe I'm overestimating how known ME is) And what right do I or you have to say "That's wrong"? We've been given tools to craft our own story within certain bounds, to go back and take that away would be mean. Sure, they could say it's not canon but...there would still be sneaking suspicion that that's how those character were supposed to be according to them and that doesn't sit well with me. Comic book movies aren't made for comic book readers yet comic book readers can still appreciate new takes on time-honored classics even if they take great liberties with the source material... how are we any different? Mass Effect's lasting appeal lies in it's established characters, iconography, themes, locations and it's central conflict without them it's Mass Effect in name only isn't it? Good or bad or painfully mediocre, for better or worse, I want the Mass Effect movie to be based on Mass Effect not... random peripheral shite: a mass effect story.
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Post by Guts on Oct 6, 2017 23:04:03 GMT
He retired, some time ago. Think he tried to kickstart a movie, and..it didn't go well. His farewell video was hilarious...he gave a finger to everyone, including his fans. Seriously his best work. seems like a ...swell guy. He called himself "the only genius in the whole fucking [movie] business" (Got this from wikipedia). He also challenges his critics to boxing matches to beat the shit out of them. This trigger discipline is just terrible. (This was from his *ahem* "Classic", "The House of the Dead", based on the video game.)
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Post by Guts on Oct 6, 2017 23:07:58 GMT
EDIT: Uwe Boll is probably one of the douchiest film directors I've seen. heh...a Uwe Boll joke and a John Cleese gif. Not bad, man. Not bad at all. What if Uwe Boll is the joke? And I called him out.
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Post by guanxi on Oct 7, 2017 8:00:26 GMT
Comic book movies aren't made for comic book readers yet comic book readers can still appreciate new takes on time-honored classics even if they take great liberties with the source material... how are we any different? Mass Effect's lasting appeal lies in it's established characters, iconography, themes, locations and it's central conflict without them it's Mass Effect in name only isn't it? Good or bad or painfully mediocre, for better or worse, I want the Mass Effect movie to be based on Mass Effect not... random peripheral shite: a mass effect story. Using the games without understanding why they were so good in the first place is guaranteed to be a disaster. What about the voice actors that were so important in the original cast? The issue of forcing a certain appearance, gender, romance, voice and disposition for Shepard? Not to mention the budget and overall quality that will make or break the experience. But apparently you're willing to accept the film, even if it's complete shite, as long as it's a straight remake. The wealth of lore that is available in something like Dragon Age or Mass Effect presents some great opportunities to make a side project. Why not set it during the Reaper war? Follow the resistance on Earth with a few mentions of established characters off-screen. How about the Rachni wars? The Fall of Thessia? Skyllian Blitz? First contact with the Turians? All of this is still Mass Effect and it's a perfect way to flesh out events that were only mentioned briefly in-game. This would be much better than just some lazy fan service to turn a profit. Mass Effect, like any other game series, doesn't need to be adapted. Ever. We have the games and they're fine as they are. But if there is significant interest in doing it, then it would be better to work within the world and produce something original. Otherwise, we just end up with something like Hitman or BloodRayne. Laughable, poorly made films that have no reason to exist. Original movies and prequels would be absolutely fine EVENTUALLY but skipping over ME1 would be akin to bypassing Mass Effect's New Hope and making up a Rogue One INSTEAD first - absolute madness. Yes Mass Effect fans know the story, setting and characters but what about the rest (60-70+) of the audience? Before you can get to the original movies and prequels the setting needs to be grounded in the original source material and properly introduced to the audience and given time for the writers and directors to familiarise themselves with the property otherwise going 'off-book' or 'off-piste' with the source material with unknown writers and directors right off the bat would be like driving in the dark. No matter what you do there's no guarantee of success or quality but I'd absolutely rather have a shit Mass Effect (I) remake than a shit original story that has nothing to do with it and then that's that with no chance of any further original movies or tv shows. ME1's focused narrative structure split across three 90+ minute movies would be a perfect launching pad for an extended universe. ME2 & ME3 would not work as movies but remove the reapers and collectors from the equation and there's plenty of excellent material post-ME1 (Shadow Broker (Thane replacing Feron), Genophage (Wrex/Mordin), Migrant Fleet, House Divided, Quarian/Geth war, Leviathans, From Ashes, etc.) which could be reworked into standalone movies with the Normandy crew. Miranda and Jacob could even have their own Cerberus spin-off and eventually you could have cross over movies with the Normandy crew hunting down the Illusive Man/Cerberus. Garrus could have an Arkangel spin-off on Omega where he leaves the Normandy after ME1 to take on Aria and the smuggling gangs tying up C-Sec loose ends... in order to realise any of this potential you'd absolutely have to cover ME1 first. The Normandy crew are by far the most valuable part of the IP and to not utilise them front and center at the core of any movie or tv series would be a crime against cinema.
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Post by guanxi on Oct 7, 2017 9:49:53 GMT
Why does the universe have to be established at all, let alone with so many films? Effective marketing and a good script for fans and to introduce newcomers will avoid the bloated franchises that we're seeing in Hollywood already. I was thinking about one, maybe two films at most to complement the games.. the last thing I'd want to see is Mass Effect turning into something like Star Wars or Marvel. That kind of profit-driven mentality is already killing enough creativity and depth in film as it is. What you're proposing is an endless franchise and this would be much worse than any adaptations existing in the first place. The Mass Effect series absolutely could follow the marvel model and rival Xmen and similar series and i'd honestly love that even if the movies wouldn't be for me or my tastes as I can see kids the world over falling in love with this series, the audience would grow considerably over time which would eventually support more smaller auteur endeavours in time on platforms like Netflix and network cable.
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Post by Qui-Gon GlenN7 on Oct 7, 2017 15:11:55 GMT
seems like a ...swell guy. He called himself "the only genius in the whole fucking [movie] business" (Got this from wikipedia). He also challenges his critics to boxing matches to beat the shit out of them. This trigger discipline is just terrible. (This was from his *ahem* "Classic", "The House of the Dead", based on the video game.) Hollywood morons are fairly common. The DP of my latest completed film, actually choked the Libra-Cam operator in the middle of set in front of everyone... And managed to keep his job. How I wish he had tried that with me - I made it a point to talk about choking every time I was near him the rest of the show. Uwe Boll would take the ass-whipping of his life from the girl from craft services... Directors are generally the children of grand privilege, and as such are as soft as Charmin, and just as good for wiping your ass with.
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Post by tatarforas on Oct 7, 2017 15:21:52 GMT
If there ever is a movie, it likely will have nothing to do with game protagonists (it would cause the same shit they did to Revan...canonizing version of Bioware protagonist... ). Some game characters might appear, but they either wouldn't talk about our protagonists, or would talk about them in very vague terms. At least that's the way potential movie should go. If not...they should get kicked in the goohuloog. They could just decide to make the cinematic and game universes separate, that way it doesn't interfere with peoples head canon.
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Post by mannyray on Oct 7, 2017 21:39:20 GMT
Game adaptation films can die in a relay explosion. Meh. Warcraft was decent. No. To be blunt anyone who genuinely thinks that simply is just a WoW fan and wanted it to be good and is ignoring the fact it's crap. It's not one of the worst movies ever made but it's just more spoonfed garbage for people who think directors like Zack Snyder are good filmmakers.
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