Something odd about the Trespasser epilogue (Anders romance)

lol! I would almost consider joining the Qun for that reason... Then again Solas might be the better option. He is smart and powerful enough to make her life MISERABLE!

I don't remember being friendly with him, and my Inquisitor was a Qunari. Varric all but forced the keys on him in front of his underling. He should be tried for treason, truth be told.

I understand, but Garrus does not hand Shepard Turian navy codes just in case. Garrus may be delusional, but Varric's behaviour is just... bizarre.

That's it really in a nutshell. If you do the person's personal quest then the reaction from then on will generally be a positive one. I haven't explored the actual mechanics as some people have but I assume you get a big load of approval points for carrying out the quest that generally offset any negative approval you might subsequently receive.

So the only way to get genuine negative approval from Varric is to not do his personal quest. However, I think destroying red lyrium counts to some extent and you cannot really avoid doing that: I mean why would you? I can't remember but is it even possible to refuse to do the Bianca quest? Again, why would anyone do so since we know it has something to do with red lyrium smuggling?

I assume that not doing Dorian's quest is pre-requisite to having negative approval and eventually ending up with him leaving immediately after Corypheus has been defeated or the Inquisitor punching him so he leaves before the end. In the latter case he definitely does not see the Inquisitor as his friend at the Exalted Council and does not give them the crystal.

Presumably, if you don't do Varric's red lyrium quest then you would have sufficient negative approval that don't get the key. However, it is hard to see how an Inquisitor would not do the quest as it is more important than simply sorting out Varric's personal life.  I've just checked and apparently how you deal with his altercation with Cassandra seems very important to your relationship.   Essentially you have to agree with Cassandra on pretty much every statement she makes and blame Varric, which seems unlikely but there you go.  So the conditions are probably such that it is impossible for you not to be given key.

It's not about professing the undying friendship on a very slim basis that irritates me, it's the very act of actually betraying Kirkwall when he already usurped Hawke's heritage. It just really, really does not sit well with me.

Yeah, it's the same here in the states, too.

That happens a lot in the Dragon Age franchise -- inconsistency in the writing of various characters. I think that's what happens when you have a bunch of different people writing at the same time. A head writer is supposed to smooth those inconsistencies out.

I didn't romance Anders, but I'm not fond that that forced epilogue, either. I'm not really into Kirkwall as a place or the idea of my Hawke helping Varric run things.

As a player, I look at it as the devs having a singular path for the living Hawke which grants them a happy ending, but is also unambiguous in order to allow for future use or something along those lines. Think about the various paths in DAO and how those can't be supported, so now we either have the Warden as dead or off chasing a cure for the Calling.

It's a stupid joke that Bioware's writers didn't bother to consider the political or security consequences of.

I should have also played added that the only reason we are is because DA4 is literally years away and we've started running out of topics to argue about. 

Maybe I should create a "Corypheus did nothing wrong" thread...

Nah, dude I'm being completely sincere. Corypheus was just an innocent darkspawn magister with a cute pet dragon that wanted to save the world from political division and godlessness. The Inquisitor and their band of terrorist thugs were true villains in DAI. Corypheus was unfairly misunderstood and demonized for the simple crime of being curious about ancient elven artifacts.
His murder and martyrdom is a tragedy that all of Thedas should mourn.  

His sense of style needs to mentioned more enough as well. The guy was a total fashionista shoe designer. 



Josephine and Vivienne are sooooooo jealous.