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Post by stealthfox94 on Nov 11, 2017 16:10:12 GMT

Anyone else a little confused by the term "years" in Mass Effect. Years have no concept in a galaxy. Each planet has a different definition of what a year is. So perhaps when asari say they live to be 1000, they just come from a planet with a long revolutionary period? I know I'm probably thinking too much into this.

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Post by Jeremiah12LGeek on Nov 11, 2017 16:24:19 GMT

It's "Universal Translator" science fiction.

All units are converted to those understood by the species, so essentially a Turian would hear units from their homeworld's day/year cycles, an Asari would hear theirs, and humans hear units based on Sol.

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Post by KaiserShep on Nov 11, 2017 16:51:02 GMT

I'm sure their respective years are off by just a few quintants anyway.

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Nov 11, 2017 16:51:02 GMT KaiserShep said:

I'm sure their respective years are off by just a few quintants anyway.

You're not far off. I just checked the revolution periods on the wiki.

A Palaven year and a Sur'kesh year are both 1.2 Earth Years, a Thessia year is 0.9 Earth years, an Irune year is 1.5 Earth years, and a Dekunna year is 1.1 Earth years.

Rannoch, Khar'shan, and Heshtok are a bit outside the norm at 0.64 years, 1.7 years, and 0.72 years respectively.

Of the known Milky Way homeworld revolution periods, only Tuchanka and Suen really deviate from the norm at 16.7 years and 0.3 years respectively.

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Nov 11, 2017 17:05:44 GMT sageoflife said:

Nov 11, 2017 16:51:02 GMT KaiserShep said:

I'm sure their respective years are off by just a few quintants anyway.

You're not far off. I just checked the revolution periods on the wiki.

A Palaven year and a Sur'kesh year are both 1.2 Earth Years, a Thessia year is 0.9 Earth years, an Irune year is 1.5 Earth years, and a Dekunna year is 1.1 Earth years.

Rannoch, Khar'shan, and Heshtok are a bit outside the norm at 0.64 years, 1.7 years, and 0.72 years respectively.

Of the known Milky Way homeworld revolution periods, only Tuchanka and Suen really deviate from the norm at 16.7 years and 0.3 years respectively.

So if that's true it's possible the krogan don't live much longer than humans but the asari definitely do. This assuming the second post about years translating to mean the same for everyone isn't correct.

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Nov 11, 2017 17:24:03 GMT stealthfox94 said:

Nov 11, 2017 17:05:44 GMT sageoflife said:

You're not far off. I just checked the revolution periods on the wiki.

A Palaven year and a Sur'kesh year are both 1.2 Earth Years, a Thessia year is 0.9 Earth years, an Irune year is 1.5 Earth years, and a Dekunna year is 1.1 Earth years.

Rannoch, Khar'shan, and Heshtok are a bit outside the norm at 0.64 years, 1.7 years, and 0.72 years respectively.

Of the known Milky Way homeworld revolution periods, only Tuchanka and Suen really deviate from the norm at 16.7 years and 0.3 years respectively.

So if that's true it's possible the krogan don't live much longer than humans but the asari definitely do. This assuming the second post about years translating to mean the same for everyone isn't correct.

No, the krogan definitely live at least as long as asari. This has been referenced repeatedly in asari-krogan couples.

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Nov 11, 2017 17:27:07 GMT sageoflife said:

Nov 11, 2017 17:24:03 GMT stealthfox94 said:

So if that's true it's possible the krogan don't live much longer than humans but the asari definitely do. This assuming the second post about years translating to mean the same for everyone isn't correct.

No, the krogan definitely live at least as long as asari. This has been referenced repeatedly in asari-krogan couples.

True I forgot there where some krogan who lived pre human contact, maybe some who lived before the genophage to?

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Post by Exile Isan on Nov 11, 2017 17:42:36 GMT

Drack is 1400 years old, he fought in the Krogan Rebellions which began in 700 CE. Most "years" in the Mass Effect verse are measured by Earth years.

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Post by sageoflife on Nov 11, 2017 17:47:15 GMT

Nov 11, 2017 17:34:05 GMT stealthfox94 said:

Nov 11, 2017 17:27:07 GMT sageoflife said:

No, the krogan definitely live at least as long as asari. This has been referenced repeatedly in asari-krogan couples.

True I forgot there where some krogan who lived pre human contact, maybe some who lived before the genophage to?

There was that asari who basically said, "krogan are a long term thing, unlike humans where you can just wait for them to die."

There were also Aethyta's parents who didn't kill each other until centuries after they fought on the opposite sides of the Rebellions.

Also, Wrex, Drack, and Okeer all personally remembered the Rebellions and their immediate aftermath. Drack still remembers the immediate aftermath of the Rachni Wars.

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Nov 11, 2017 17:47:15 GMT sageoflife said:

Nov 11, 2017 17:34:05 GMT stealthfox94 said:

True I forgot there where some krogan who lived pre human contact, maybe some who lived before the genophage to?

There was that asari who basically said, "krogan are a long term thing, unlike humans where you can just wait for them to die."

There were also Aethyta's parents who didn't kill each other until centuries after they fought on the opposite sides of the Rebellions.

Also, Wrex, Drack, and Okeer all personally remembered the Rebellions and their immediate aftermath. Drack still remembers the immediate aftermath of the Rachni Wars.

There is also Patriarch who fought in the Rachni Wars, since it is one of his tales that you can hear him telling.

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Post by KrrKs on Nov 11, 2017 18:27:39 GMT

It seems that I was off with the +-1 day per year...

From the Wiki:

Galactic Standard Time Edit

The inhabitants of Citadel Council Space utilize a standardized time system. This system is different from the Terran Coordinated Universal Time relied on by humans in that:

A galactic standard day comprises 20 hours.
Each hour comprises 100 minutes.
Each minute comprises 100 seconds.
Each second is half as long as a human second.

As a result, a twenty-hour galactic standard day is 15.7% longer than a standard twenty-four hour Terran Coordinated Universal day, which means it lasts 27 hours, 46 minutes, and 40 seconds in Earth-based time.

A galactic standard year is described as being an average of asari, salarian, and turian years and only 1.09 times longer than an Earth year. This means that a galactic standard year consists of 398.114 Earth days or 343.97 galactic standard days.

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Nov 11, 2017 18:27:39 GMT KrrKs said:

It seems that I was off with the +-1 day per year...

From the Wiki:

Galactic Standard Time Edit

The inhabitants of Citadel Council Space utilize a standardized time system. This system is different from the Terran Coordinated Universal Time relied on by humans in that:

A galactic standard day comprises 20 hours.
Each hour comprises 100 minutes.
Each minute comprises 100 seconds.
Each second is half as long as a human second.

As a result, a twenty-hour galactic standard day is 15.7% longer than a standard twenty-four hour Terran Coordinated Universal day, which means it lasts 27 hours, 46 minutes, and 40 seconds in Earth-based time.

A galactic standard year is described as being an average of asari, salarian, and turian years and only 1.09 times longer than an Earth year. This means that a galactic standard year consists of 398.114 Earth days or 343.97 galactic standard days.

Yes, I saw this web page you are referencing in masseffect.wikia here. Good find.

I also found these codex notes too: "the timeline of the Mass Effect universe." In the codex page for the ME-1 Timeline, all historical dates are given as BCE/CE dates. Note that "Common Era or Current Era (CE) is a year-numbering system (calendar era) for the Julian and Gregorian calendar (thus, earth history based) that refers to the years since the start of the present era, that is, the years beginning with AD 1. The preceding era is referred to as before the Common or Current Era (BCE)."

So I'm thinking that time and dates are simply relative to the species' own measurement of time.

Good question. I had fun scrounging around the codex to find both pieces of information.

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Nov 13, 2017 16:53:58 GMT Pounce de León said:

Nope. Units of time have always been a convention.

I suppose most species have similar lifespans. With Asari, Krogan and Salarians being the outliers. Now that I think about this I think I heard this as a confirmation from some where. Not sure about Angaran or Kett lifespans.

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Nov 13, 2017 18:17:47 GMT stealthfox94 said:

Nov 13, 2017 16:53:58 GMT Pounce de León said:

Nope. Units of time have always been a convention.

I suppose most species have similar lifespans. With Asari, Krogan and Salarians being the outliers. Now that I think about this I think I heard this as a confirmation from some where. Not sure about Angaran or Kett lifespans.

All we know about the angara and kett is that the Moshea is considered elderly at 115 Earth years and that the Archon has been wreaking havoc in just one cluster for eighty years.

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Nov 13, 2017 20:20:13 GMT sageoflife said:

Nov 13, 2017 18:17:47 GMT stealthfox94 said:

I suppose most species have similar lifespans. With Asari, Krogan and Salarians being the outliers. Now that I think about this I think I heard this as a confirmation from some where. Not sure about Angaran or Kett lifespans.

All we know about the angara and kett is that the Moshea is considered elderly at 115 Earth years and that the Archon has been wreaking havoc in just one cluster for eighty years.

We know that in the Mass Effect universe humans can live up to 120 years, so I guess Angara do have similar or perhaps very slightly longer lifespans than humans.

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Nov 13, 2017 18:17:47 GMT stealthfox94 said:

I suppose most species have similar lifespans. With Asari, Krogan and Salarians being the outliers. Now that I think about this I think I heard this as a confirmation from some where. Not sure about Angaran or Kett lifespans.

Vorcha have even shorter lifespans than Salarians. Only 20 years I think.

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Nov 15, 2017 14:40:11 GMT CrutchCricket said:

Nov 13, 2017 18:17:47 GMT stealthfox94 said:

I suppose most species have similar lifespans. With Asari, Krogan and Salarians being the outliers. Now that I think about this I think I heard this as a confirmation from some where. Not sure about Angaran or Kett lifespans.

Vorcha have even shorter lifespans than Salarians. Only 20 years I think.

Well in that case I'd already be dead if I was a vorcha.

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