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Post by opuspace on Sept 30, 2016 1:41:46 GMT
@theloneshadow That's...really apt with the Rogen quote. If I didn't have really stable, accepting individuals to challenge my views in the past, I'd have stayed a rigid, overbearing personality instead of a...slightly more reasonable but still tightwad personality.
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Post by Catilina on Sept 30, 2016 2:03:53 GMT
Hhhhhelll no, how is Blackwall, the lost, kicked lil' puppy getting more hate than SOLAS of all people?! He looks up to the Inquisitor so much and has such good, gentlemanly qualities to him. This community is WEIRD. Rainier butchering an innocent family for gold then running away to leave others to take the fall probably has something to do with it. He regretted.
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Sept 30, 2016 2:13:53 GMT
Rainier butchering an innocent family for gold then running away to leave others to take the fall probably has something to do with it. He regretted. And? A person who committed a monstrous act feeling bad about it doesn't make the act less monstrous. Plus I have doubts about how genuine his regrets are regarding murdering that family.
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Post by opuspace on Sept 30, 2016 2:23:18 GMT
And? A person who committed a monstrous act feeling bad about it doesn't make the act less monstrous. Plus I have doubts about how genuine his regrets are regarding murdering that family. His actions fit the remorse since we first meet him helping people affected by the Breach for no payment in return. His past action was a one time event with no intention to kill kids right from the start. The worst he did was failure to act in time to stop it because he was in shock and abandoning his men who committed the actual act. It's not like we have to fear him going on another murder spree (looking at you Leliana and Solas). Solas has a much higher body count, and is a continuing threat to all of Thedas. And hypothetical deaths does not disprove the possibility that he might have caused the death of children that might have been there either.
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Sept 30, 2016 2:31:42 GMT
And? A person who committed a monstrous act feeling bad about it doesn't make the act less monstrous. Plus I have doubts about how genuine his regrets are regarding murdering that family. His actions fit the remorse since we first meet him helping people affected by the Breach for no payment in return. His past action was a one time event with no intention to kill kids right from the start. The worst he did was failure to act in time to stop it because he was in shock and abandoning his men who committed the actual act. It's not like we have to fear him going on another murder spree (looking at you Leliana and Solas). Solas has a much higher body count, and is a continuing threat to all of Thedas. And hypothetical deaths does not disprove the possibility that he might have caused the death of children that might have been there either. He makes no moves to right the wrong he committed, thus he is not showing regret for that action. Him saving the people in Ferelden is him playing make believe about him being Blackwall because he regrets Blackwall's death for him, so doing what Blackwall would do. Again, I have doubts about the claim that he didn't know the children would be there since in that same conversation he says he knows how those kinds of missions go, about how you take out more than the enemy you take out the name meaning heirs as well. Oh, I'm not saying Solas is better than him. I chose the "It's like comparing turds" option. I'm just saying there is plenty of reason for people to loathe Rainier.
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Post by Catilina on Sept 30, 2016 2:32:30 GMT
And? A person who committed a monstrous act feeling bad about it doesn't make the act less monstrous. Plus I have doubts about how genuine his regrets are regarding murdering that family. And?!? I think it's an important thing. If he regret, you can acquit him. And why not? He understood what he had done and wanted to be punished. I think he is not dangerous anymore. Who not guilty for you? I think you want a bunch of virgin choir girls. But maybe you can find them guilty too...
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Sept 30, 2016 2:40:12 GMT
And? A person who committed a monstrous act feeling bad about it doesn't make the act less monstrous. Plus I have doubts about how genuine his regrets are regarding murdering that family. And? I think it's an important thing. If he regret, you can acquit him. And why not? He understood what he had done and wanted to be punished. I think he is not dangerous anymore. Who not guilty for you? I think you want a bunch of virgin choir girls. But maybe you can find them guilty too... No, you shouldn't acquit someone just because they feel sorry. We don't acquit murderers in real life just because they apologize. They are still found guilty and serve a sentence. There are plenty of people I find not guilty of heinous things among our companions in all the games. DAO: Alistair, Dog, Oghren, Wynne DA2: Aveline, Bethany, Carver, Merrill DAI: Cassandra, Dorian, Cole, Vivienne, Cullen, Josephine So what is your point? If your point is I would like more genuinely good people, then I agree wholeheartedly. If not, I don't see your point.
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Post by riverdaleswhiteflash on Sept 30, 2016 2:44:31 GMT
And? I think it's an important thing. If he regret, you can acquit him. And why not? He understood what he had done and wanted to be punished. I think he is not dangerous anymore. Who not guilty for you? I think you want a bunch of virgin choir girls. But maybe you can find them guilty too... No, you shouldn't acquit someone just because they feel sorry. We don't acquit murderers in real life just because they apologize. They are still found guilty and serve a sentence. There are plenty of people I find not guilty of heinous things among our companions in all the games. DAO: Alistair, Dog, Oghren, Wynne DA2: Aveline, Bethany, Carver, Merrill DAI: Cassandra, Dorian, Cole, Vivienne, Cullen, Josephine So what is your point? If your point is I would like more genuinely good people, then I agree wholeheartedly. If not, I don't see your point. You're going to need to explain Dog, Wynne, both of the Hawke twins, Cassandra and Dorian.
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Sept 30, 2016 2:46:03 GMT
No, you shouldn't acquit someone just because they feel sorry. We don't acquit murderers in real life just because they apologize. They are still found guilty and serve a sentence. There are plenty of people I find not guilty of heinous things among our companions in all the games. DAO: Alistair, Dog, Oghren, Wynne DA2: Aveline, Bethany, Carver, Merrill DAI: Cassandra, Dorian, Cole, Vivienne, Cullen, Josephine So what is your point? If your point is I would like more genuinely good people, then I agree wholeheartedly. If not, I don't see your point. You're going to need to explain Dog, Wynne, both of the Hawke twins, Cassandra and Dorian. Explain what? How they haven't done terrible things? Most of those seem pretty obvious.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 30, 2016 2:46:23 GMT
And? I think it's an important thing. If he regret, you can acquit him. And why not? He understood what he had done and wanted to be punished. I think he is not dangerous anymore. Who not guilty for you? I think you want a bunch of virgin choir girls. But maybe you can find them guilty too... No, you shouldn't acquit someone just because they feel sorry. We don't acquit murderers in real life just because they apologize. They are still found guilty and serve a sentence. There are plenty of people I find not guilty of heinous things among our companions in all the games. DAO: Alistair, Dog, Oghren, Wynne DA2: Aveline, Bethany, Carver, Merrill DAI: Cassandra, Dorian, Cole, Vivienne, Cullen, Josephine So what is your point? If your point is I would like more genuinely good people, then I agree wholeheartedly. If not, I don't see your point. Its been a while since I've played DA:O, but I'm pretty sure Oghren murdered someone and Cole killed people in a mage tower.
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Sept 30, 2016 2:49:18 GMT
No, you shouldn't acquit someone just because they feel sorry. We don't acquit murderers in real life just because they apologize. They are still found guilty and serve a sentence. There are plenty of people I find not guilty of heinous things among our companions in all the games. DAO: Alistair, Dog, Oghren, Wynne DA2: Aveline, Bethany, Carver, Merrill DAI: Cassandra, Dorian, Cole, Vivienne, Cullen, Josephine So what is your point? If your point is I would like more genuinely good people, then I agree wholeheartedly. If not, I don't see your point. Its been a while since I've played DA:O, but I'm pretty sure Oghren murdered someone and Cole killed people in a mage tower. Oghren killing that person wasn't murder but an accident. Cole was helping or at least thought he was, so seems comparable to assisted suicide. Plus he had the mentality of a child at the time, not knowing the difference between right and wrong, so like in real life are judged to a different standard.
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Post by Catilina on Sept 30, 2016 2:54:32 GMT
And? I think it's an important thing. If he regret, you can acquit him. And why not? He understood what he had done and wanted to be punished. I think he is not dangerous anymore. Who not guilty for you? I think you want a bunch of virgin choir girls. But maybe you can find them guilty too... No, you shouldn't acquit someone just because they feel sorry. We don't acquit murderers in real life just because they apologize. They are still found guilty and serve a sentence. There are plenty of people I find not guilty of heinous things among our companions in all the games. DAO: Alistair, Dog, Oghren, Wynne DA2: Aveline, Bethany, Carver, Merrill DAI: Cassandra, Dorian, Cole, Vivienne, Cullen, Josephine So what is your point? If your point is I would like more genuinely good people, then I agree wholeheartedly. If not, I don't see your point. Dog? Yes, innocent, because animal. Haha, you got me, good choice! Cassandra, for example, was a seeker. You can imagine much blood on her hands? Merrill? How much better than Fenris? She would have killed her whole clan ...* Vivienne? A social climber, who want to be Divine, despite she not really devoted? She is dangerous, not Blackwall. Cullen? Was a devoted Templar. Same as Cassandra... Do not get me wrong, except Vivienne I like all, but none of them innocent. *By the way wtf is your problem with Fenris?
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Post by riverdaleswhiteflash on Sept 30, 2016 2:58:18 GMT
You're going to need to explain Dog, Wynne, both of the Hawke twins, Cassandra and Dorian. Explain what? How they haven't done terrible things? Most of those seem pretty obvious. Sorry, misread as "people who are guilty of heinous things."
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Sept 30, 2016 3:00:26 GMT
No, you shouldn't acquit someone just because they feel sorry. We don't acquit murderers in real life just because they apologize. They are still found guilty and serve a sentence. There are plenty of people I find not guilty of heinous things among our companions in all the games. DAO: Alistair, Dog, Oghren, Wynne DA2: Aveline, Bethany, Carver, Merrill DAI: Cassandra, Dorian, Cole, Vivienne, Cullen, Josephine So what is your point? If your point is I would like more genuinely good people, then I agree wholeheartedly. If not, I don't see your point. Dog? Yes, innocent, because animal. Haha, you got me, good choice! Cassandra, for example, was a seeker. You can imagine much blood on her hands? Merrill? How much better than Fenris? She would have killed her whole clan ... Vivienne? A social climber, who want to be Divine, despite she not really devoted? She is dangerous, not Blackwall. Cullen? Was a devoted Templar. Same as Cassandra... Do not get me wrong, except Vivienne I like all, but none of them innocent. *By the way wtf is your problem with Fenris? Cassandra: You can imagine, sure. But there is no actual evidence of her doing so. Show me examples of her doing terrible things. Not all Seekers are criminals, you know. Merrill: She is very different than Fenris. For starters, she doesn't murder people. Her clan only dies when they try to murder her, so she acts in self-defense which is not murder. Vivienne: Being a social climber is not a crime. Cullen: Again, not all Templars are criminals. Cullen is never shown to commit an actual heinous crime. For most of these cases they are only not innocent because of your biases, not based on actual facts. As for Fenris, he murders people. Whether they deserve death or not is irrelevant. He kills people who at that moment are incapable of defending themselves, thus murder.
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Sept 30, 2016 3:00:58 GMT
Explain what? How they haven't done terrible things? Most of those seem pretty obvious. Sorry, misread as "people who are guilty of heinous things." Ah, I see. I figured as much but didn't want to ignore your post in case you meant that.
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Post by Catilina on Sept 30, 2016 3:02:48 GMT
Dog? Yes, innocent, because animal. Haha, you got me, good choice! Cassandra, for example, was a seeker. You can imagine much blood on her hands? Merrill? How much better than Fenris? She would have killed her whole clan ... Vivienne? A social climber, who want to be Divine, despite she not really devoted? She is dangerous, not Blackwall. Cullen? Was a devoted Templar. Same as Cassandra... Do not get me wrong, except Vivienne I like all, but none of them innocent. Cassandra: You can imagine, sure. But there is no actual evidence of her doing so. Show me examples of her doing terrible things. Not all Seekers are criminals, you know. Merrill: She is very different than Fenris. For starters, she doesn't murder people. Her clan only dies when they try to murder her, so she acts in self-defense which is not murder. Vivienne: Being a social climber is not a crime. Cullen: Again, not all Templars are criminals. Cullen is never shown to commit an actual heinous crime. For most of these cases they are only not innocent because of your biases, not based on actual facts. You think the only sin, if someone kills his/her own hands? Oh! I almost forget, what a bloodthirsty was Fenris!
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Sept 30, 2016 3:05:46 GMT
Cassandra: You can imagine, sure. But there is no actual evidence of her doing so. Show me examples of her doing terrible things. Not all Seekers are criminals, you know. Merrill: She is very different than Fenris. For starters, she doesn't murder people. Her clan only dies when they try to murder her, so she acts in self-defense which is not murder. Vivienne: Being a social climber is not a crime. Cullen: Again, not all Templars are criminals. Cullen is never shown to commit an actual heinous crime. For most of these cases they are only not innocent because of your biases, not based on actual facts. You think the only sin, if someone kills his/her own hands? Oh! I almost forget, what a bloodthirsty was Fenris! Pray tell, what terrible sins did those people commit then? Yes, Fenris was bloodthirsty. He literally stays in Danarius' house to draw Danarius to him so he can kill him, or any people Danarius sends.
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Post by riverdaleswhiteflash on Sept 30, 2016 3:06:16 GMT
Vivienne: Being a social climber is not a crime. Well, Cole hints in the banter that the person who confronts us at her salon, who she freezes and might kill if we ask it, was in that position because she manipulated him into it over an offense that doesn't really call for what she did to him. I think most of the hate is just because she rubs people the wrong way, but there's actual reason to view her as a bad person. Just, you know, not as much as we have for Blackwall and Solas.
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Post by Catilina on Sept 30, 2016 3:09:29 GMT
You think the only sin, if someone kills his/her own hands? Oh! I almost forget, what a bloodthirsty was Fenris! Pray tell, what terrible sins did those people commit then? Yes, Fenris was bloodthirsty. He literally stays in Danarius' house to draw Danarius to him so he can kill him, or any people Danarius sends. Because Danarius was looking for him? "There comes a time when you stop running, and turn to face the enemy" – not the exact quote, but something like that. No, Fenris wasn't bloodthirsty.
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Sept 30, 2016 3:09:41 GMT
Vivienne: Being a social climber is not a crime. Well, Cole hints in the banter that the person who confronts us at her salon, who she freezes and might kill if we ask it, was in that position because she manipulated him into it over an offense that doesn't really call for what she did to him. I think most of the hate is just because she rubs people the wrong way, but there's actual reason to hate her and view her as a bad person. Just, you know, not as much as we have for Blackwall and Solas. I never really had her and Cole in the same party, so didn't get access to that banter. And I never have her kill Alphonse(both because he did nothing to me to deserve it, and the FMA fan in me can't bring myself to say 'I killed Alphonse' ). It is certainly possible she done some very bad stuff, but there is no evidence for it so I don't judge on hypotheticals since otherwise everyone is terrible. Yeah, most hate seems to be because of her attitude or her opinions. Pray tell, what terrible sins did those people commit then? Yes, Fenris was bloodthirsty. He literally stays in Danarius' house to draw Danarius to him so he can kill him, or any people Danarius sends. Because Danarius was looking for him? "There comes a time when you stop running, and turn to face the enemy" - not the exact quote, but something like that, And this disproves what I said...how?
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Post by Catilina on Sept 30, 2016 3:12:33 GMT
Because Danarius was looking for him? "There comes a time when you stop running, and turn to face the enemy" - not the exact quote, but something like that, And this disproves what I said...how? Yes, it is.
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Sept 30, 2016 3:13:29 GMT
And this disproves what I said...how? Yes, it is. That doesn't answer my question.
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Post by Catilina on Sept 30, 2016 3:14:29 GMT
That doesn't answer my question. Of course it is.
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Sept 30, 2016 3:15:32 GMT
That doesn't answer my question. Of course it is. Are you trolling me, or is your translation software mistranslating my posts?
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Post by phoray on Sept 30, 2016 3:16:13 GMT
Is it possible for any companion in DAI hate you so much that they leave you or they all wear plot armor? Cassandra gets drunk. Varric tries to advise you to not be an asshole. Viv moves your furniture in protest. Punch Solas and he stays anyway. Advisors always advise. Iron Bull doesn't care, but I think he default Qun, and you kill him in trespassers. Blackwall leaves due to you're being so dishonorable. Same for Cole. Punch Dorian, he leaves. You can ask Sera to leave but I think she may leave on her own if you're enough of a jerk.
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