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Post by ArcadiaGrey on Apr 4, 2019 22:16:36 GMT
Our blue friend is likely to be a splat on the pavement before dawn. It would be great if we could figure out who the other spy is...like, right now. Before dawn. No other heroes have suspicions? If we put our heads together, maybe we'll find a clue here that we've missed. I'm leaning towards Cati being the spy, purely given the amount of time it took OG to vote first round.
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Post by dragontartare on Apr 5, 2019 1:25:06 GMT
It would be great if we could figure out who the other spy is...like, right now. Before dawn. No other heroes have suspicions? If we put our heads together, maybe we'll find a clue here that we've missed. I'm leaning towards Cati being the spy, purely given the amount of time it took OG to vote first round. Thinking that OG was actually trying to be careful of who to vote for? I am finding it odd that neither of them have tried to offer up a defense yet. No one has publicly claimed Miranda or Mordin, even though it might make sense for Catilina or Obsidian Gryphon to do so at this point. OG is actually being strangely quiet as far as debating who might be guilty, but it's also strange that Cati didn't want to vote for Space last round.
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Post by romice on Apr 5, 2019 4:26:45 GMT
I'm leaning towards Cati being the spy, purely given the amount of time it took OG to vote first round. Thinking that OG was actually trying to be careful of who to vote for? I am finding it odd that neither of them have tried to offer up a defense yet. No one has publicly claimed Miranda or Mordin, even though it might make sense for Catilina or Obsidian Gryphon to do so at this point. OG is actually being strangely quiet as far as debating who might be guilty, but it's also strange that Cati didn't want to vote for Space last round. Well, Cati and OG are definitely my two biggest suspects, but I'm actually leaning toward OG. My guess is that Cati just didn't realise why we were voting for Space. Also, Space voting for OG might have been a way to rid OG of suspicion, at least for a while. ArcadiaGrey, from my perspective there is still one unknown role in the game, so maybe it's Javik. If there ever was a good night to use his ability, it's tonight
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Post by pelassarias on Apr 5, 2019 18:15:20 GMT
Welcome back reed! And it looks like you were just in time to put Evil Shootin' Space into the airlock! Also, yes, kudos to Arcadia and the rest of the Heroes for avenging my death there! Now I can go headbutt Garrus and drink ryncol in peace! As for who Evil Tali/the last spy is, I'll set up my thoughts on most of the players here: Romice - Hero and definitely not Evil Tali based on voting record from the first round. Arcadia - Hero and definitely not Evil Tali based on voting record and hints. Dragon- Probably not Miranda or Mordin based on posts, could be Tali still based on voting record from the first round. OG- Could be Miranda, Mordin, or Tali based on voting record and lack of hints. Cati - Could be Miranda, Mordin or Tali based on voting record and lack of hints. Is it possible Cati somehow rolled spy three games in a row here? I suppose anything is possible in these games. Reed- Hero and definitely not Evil Tali based on being AWOL when Tali used their ability. So based on my thoughts, the Heroes should probably start looking into Cati, OG, and dragon since these players haven't been completely exonerated just yet. Also, Miranda coming out either tonight or tomorrow probably wouldn't hurt at this point either, especially if she's one of the players that have not been exonerated just yet.
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Post by Catilina on Apr 5, 2019 18:48:39 GMT
I suspected OG and Space according to the comments, and I still think, OG is spy, because I'm not. So: I voted for OG. Space gained many votes, so: I didn't feel, I should change my decision.
Somehow I don't think, Arcadia is a spy – and I hope, I'm right here...
(Hi, Reed!)
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Post by gervaise21 on Apr 5, 2019 19:11:24 GMT
Hold on Cati, don't jump the gun, we're still in the Night phase.
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Post by Catilina on Apr 5, 2019 19:18:47 GMT
Hold on Cati, don't jump the gun, we're still in the Night phase. Oh... f... I thought it's over... thank you! And sorry, guys!
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Post by ArcadiaGrey on Apr 5, 2019 20:09:21 GMT
Hold on Cati, don't jump the gun, we're still in the Night phase. Yeah....come on remaining spy! Just kill me and let me bitch and moan about it VERY LOUDLY
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Post by dragontartare on Apr 5, 2019 22:51:01 GMT
Welcome back reed! And it looks like you were just in time to put Evil Shootin' Space into the airlock! Also, yes, kudos to Arcadia and the rest of the Heroes for avenging my death there! Now I can go headbutt Garrus and drink ryncol in peace! As for who Evil Tali/the last spy is, I'll set up my thoughts on most of the players here: Romice - Hero and definitely not Evil Tali based on voting record from the first round. Arcadia - Hero and definitely not Evil Tali based on voting record and hints. Dragon- Probably not Miranda or Mordin based on posts, could be Tali still based on voting record from the first round. OG- Could be Miranda, Mordin, or Tali based on voting record and lack of hints. Cati - Could be Miranda, Mordin or Tali based on voting record and lack of hints. Is it possible Cati somehow rolled spy three games in a row here? I suppose anything is possible in these games. Reed- Hero and definitely not Evil Tali based on being AWOL when Tali used their ability. So based on my thoughts, the Heroes should probably start looking into Cati, OG, and dragon since these players haven't been completely exonerated just yet. Also, Miranda coming out either tonight or tomorrow probably wouldn't hurt at this point either, especially if she's one of the players that have not been exonerated just yet. I hope Liara doesn't waste an investigation on me. I've mentioned a few times that I've got a defense ready if it's needed, but no one has asked for it. Consider why I might be fishing for all this discussion to happen during a night round.
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Post by dragontartare on Apr 5, 2019 23:58:26 GMT
Thinking that OG was actually trying to be careful of who to vote for? I am finding it odd that neither of them have tried to offer up a defense yet. No one has publicly claimed Miranda or Mordin, even though it might make sense for Catilina or Obsidian Gryphon to do so at this point. OG is actually being strangely quiet as far as debating who might be guilty, but it's also strange that Cati didn't want to vote for Space last round. Well, Cati and OG are definitely my two biggest suspects, but I'm actually leaning toward OG. My guess is that Cati just didn't realise why we were voting for Space. Also, Space voting for OG might have been a way to rid OG of suspicion, at least for a while. ArcadiaGrey , from my perspective there is still one unknown role in the game, so maybe it's Javik. If there ever was a good night to use his ability, it's tonight Good point about cati. He's acting the way he normally acts...which as I've learned recently doesn't mean he's innocent, but it also doesn't mean he's guilty. He rarely hints, and often votes very differently than I would expect someone to do in his position. It would also be odd for the spies to vote together against the same person when one of them had clearly been caught. OG, on the other hand, tends to speak out more, and I find it odd that there has been no hint from them at all (because they would have to hint at Tali, would of course be the assumption there). Well...I guess we'll see. Thanks for the input.
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Post by gervaise21 on Apr 6, 2019 7:43:12 GMT
If Shepard had thought arresting Garrus would be an end of it, he was sadly mistaken. That night he was abruptly roused from a well-earned rest by the com. It was Liara.
“Shepard, my sources indicate there is still another one out there. I’ve been running further checks and the results should be in any time now.”
“Right, I’m on my way over.”
As he crossed the Citadel he reflected how well the team had protected Liara up to now, whilst her information had been invaluable in confirming those members of the team who had been indoctrinated by Cerberus. Then he realised with a jolt that all the remaining team knew of her location and if one of them was still affected …… He started to run. However, as he neared his destination the flurry of C-Sec operatives in the area confirmed he was too late. Liara was being taken out on a stretcher, unconscious.
Shepard realised that the result of her investigation might still be to hand. He went inside and checked the console. Sure enough, there was a name there, with the words: “Not Cerberus”. That was something, he thought with relief, although it meant they would now have to find the rogue team member without Liara’s help.
Suddenly there was a commotion outside, the raised voices of two of the team.
“It was you, wasn’t it, bitch?” That was Jack. “You’ve never stopped being one of them.”
“You’re paranoid and blinded by prejudice,” responded Miranda. “They attacked me!”
“They didn’t succeed though did they? It was all designed to mislead us.”
Shepard raced for the door and saw Jack about to attack Miranda. “Jack, no!”
Her concentration was broken for long enough that Miranda’s defensive move sent her flying across the lobby to crash against a wall. Another person for the hospital, reflected Shepard.
“I’m sorry, Shepard, but she attacked first,” said Miranda. “I’m not one of them.”
“I know,” said Shepard.
The eliminated player was: Dragon - Jack; Arcadia - Liara DAY 4 has begun - You may begin votingAt this point I feel I should remind the remaining players that people sometimes make assumptions that I can neither confirm nor deny. However, I have tried to provide clues in the narrative as we have gone along that should help if you think things through logically. I have put one in the latest narrative concerning the number of spies remaining to be caught.
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Post by ArcadiaGrey on Apr 6, 2019 9:55:39 GMT
Well shit. Thank you to all the heroes who sacrificed themselves so valiantly to save me. Also...when I dropped my eyebrow pencil - Question - I thought eliminated players couldn't give any opinions any more, then Pela wrote her thoughts yesterday. Is it allowed in this game?
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Post by Space Cowboy on Apr 6, 2019 10:11:36 GMT
Well shit. Thank you to all the heroes who sacrificed themselves so valiantly to save me. Also...when I dropped my eyebrow pencil - Question - I thought eliminated players couldn't give any opinions any more, then Pela wrote her thoughts yesterday. Is it allowed in this game? You can give opinions on what is already commonly known in the open thread. You can't reveal anything about your role, including who you investigated.
Pela, for instance, can't reveal who she protected before her elimination. She can talk all she likes about voting patterns as those are public record.
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Post by Space Cowboy on Apr 6, 2019 10:13:36 GMT
Also...when I dropped my eyebrow pencil - I'm guessing people may have got this, but didn't want to out you. I certainly wasn't going to tell anyone who you were
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Post by romice on Apr 6, 2019 11:03:55 GMT
Also...when I dropped my eyebrow pencil - I'm guessing people may have got this, but didn't want to out you. I certainly wasn't going to tell anyone who you were Yup, I was hoping the baddies didn't catch that Now, I'm not sure I understand what happened during the night. Did the spies get double elimination and that's how Dragon/Jack died? Is evil Tali the only bad guy left, or is Miri also bad? Can I trust anyone? Okay... let's analyse calmly. Miranda can't possibly be evil, right? On n1 she protected a hero and we established that baddies can't use their powers to protect heroes. Plus 4 bad guys among 10 players would be too much probably. So the player who is Miranda is good. Then, we have Mordin, who is also probably good, since we have established that Tali is the most likely spy. Now, for the players: Romice - I know I haven't made it clear who I am, but it is with good reason. Also I did leave a subtle clue in a couple of my posts. I'm not Mordin, Miri or Tali. Reed - He hasn't been on the forum for most of the game, so he couldn't have acted during the rounds. Both Tali and Mordin were. Mordin gave out his protection and Tali protected owl. The established role that acted the earliest was Miranda. Reed could have used Miri's skill before going dark. Thus, I think Reed is Miranda. Cati - To me, he seems even quieter than usually, but that might be due to real live stuff. It might also mean being the spy. Or an important role. On d3 he voted for OG, together with Space. For me, it seems weird that both spies voted for the same person, while it was obvious that Space would be voted out. There is also the fact that Arcadia apparently wasn't given a protection token by Mordin. This probably means that Mordin didn't realise who she was until it was too late. Cati didn't seem to realise that. So, it seems to me that Cati is Mordin. OG - He was really quiet during this game. Yes that could be because of real life. He gave no (or at least I caught no) hints as to who he is. He voted for Space only after his fate was sealed. It was a decision between OG and Cati, but I think that Og is Tali/the last spy. So, I vote for OG.
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Post by ArcadiaGrey on Apr 6, 2019 11:22:38 GMT
Well shit. Thank you to all the heroes who sacrificed themselves so valiantly to save me. Also...when I dropped my eyebrow pencil - Question - I thought eliminated players couldn't give any opinions any more, then Pela wrote her thoughts yesterday. Is it allowed in this game? You can give opinions on what is already commonly known in the open thread. You can't reveal anything about your role, including who you investigated.
Pela, for instance, can't reveal who she protected before her elimination. She can talk all she likes about voting patterns as those are public record.
Oh ok, thx Space. I assumed with ppl's silence after elimination that they couldn't speak about the game.
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Post by Catilina on Apr 6, 2019 12:03:49 GMT
Okay, now really daytime, so I can vote Still OG.And I'm sorry, Arcadia!
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Post by Obsidian Gryphon on Apr 6, 2019 12:39:02 GMT
Uh huh. *taps foot* So my silence meant guilt. Whatever. I vote for Cati.
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Post by gervaise21 on Apr 6, 2019 13:08:59 GMT
Now, I'm not sure I understand what happened during the night. Did the spies get double elimination and that's how Dragon/Jack died? For the benefit of everyone, please re-read my narrative for the answer to this question.
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Post by ArcadiaGrey on Apr 6, 2019 15:16:15 GMT
Ah so Jack interrogated Miranda thinking she was Cerberus, but was wrong so she was eliminated herself.
Meanwhile the spies took me out. I say spies as Miranda said 'them'
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Post by romice on Apr 6, 2019 15:26:36 GMT
For the benefit of everyone, please re-read my narrative for the answer to this question. Ah so Jack interrogated Miranda thinking she was Cerberus, but was wrong so she was eliminated herself. Meanwhile the spies took me out. I say spies as Miranda said 'them' I forgot Jack isn't 1-1 like Cassandra in Skyhold. Alright, so right now, I trust reed the most.
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Post by dragontartare on Apr 6, 2019 16:07:20 GMT
Whoooa, hold on there heroes (and spies). I used my ability last night and was wrong, hence my elimination. Check my post above gervaise's narrative for clues as to who I attacked. That player is Miranda, and innocent.
I'm a little annoyed that this person didn't say something to defend themselves through the whole discussion, because then I would have gone after someone else and possibly gotten a spy. Instead, we are now down an extra hero.
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Post by Space Cowboy on Apr 6, 2019 16:14:21 GMT
Now, I'm not sure I understand what happened during the night. Did the spies get double elimination and that's how Dragon/Jack died? Is evil Tali the only bad guy left, or is Miri also bad? Can I trust anyone? There are no spies left. The game is over, don't worry.
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Post by pelassarias on Apr 6, 2019 16:31:30 GMT
Well, since dragon was Jack and was the most suspicious of OG and Cati before she used her ability, this means that one of them is more than likely Miranda. This also means that it would be beneficial for the real Miranda to step forward now as well, since there's about a good chance that they could be voted up during this round.
Also, after reading possible clues about the number of spies left, the narrative hinted at a "rogue team member" in one instance, but when Miranda spoke in another she said "I'm not one of them"
But I think "them" refers to Cerberus in general since Jack was pretty much accusing Miranda of still being with Cerberus during that scene, so with that in mind, I actually think there might be only one spy left. And if this is the case, then reed is definitely innocent considering he isn't Evil Tali due to his absence during the time Evil Tali used her ability.
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Post by romice on Apr 6, 2019 16:42:17 GMT
Okay, now I don't know anything anymore. If I'm getting what Dragon is saying, then my whole theory falls apart, including the fact that reed didn't use his skill during his absence Cati, Reed, OG, can any of you please provide any clues or defence for yourselves? Because right now, I have no idea who to vote for, and we really need to eliminate the spy this round to avoid a tiebreaker.
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