[Day/Night Game] Trouble on the Citadel - round "LE Part 2: Why Cerberus Is Right For You"

I think EDI needs something positive to balance out the potential negative. Players seem to think that eliminating EDI is as good as eliminating a spy, and that isn't true.


I didn't even realize reed left a second hint, so maybe don't lean towards the latter?

Ok, now I see reed's hint (at least, what I think was referred to). I completely missed that it was a hint when I read it before.


Kasumi needs to be able to guess the player/role association, so if Kasumi is in the game, it's possible the player didn't think they had enough information to be able to do this successfully. With Javik, remember that the consequence of telling drunk stories is that the spies get a double elimination the next night. Assuming Javik is in the game, would you really want him taking that risk this early?

I'm sorry Reed. And I didn't get the hint, but then I played ME1 once and am still in my first playthrough of Me2.

Basically Liara was the shy, introverted type. So should there have been a party in ME1, I doubt she would have attended and would have opted to go do some mining in a prothean ruin and trap herself instead. lol At least that's the vibe I got from her in the first game. 

It wasn't that serious of a comment, it was in jest of the situation as from my pov of 3 games (before this one), in 2 of them you were the one that sparked my potential demise with a sort of "someone make a decision" type of post. I found it humorous. I apologize if I offended you.

That doesn't make any sense. You narrow down your choices to three people. Of those three people, you think you figured out the role for one of them, and it is a defensive role. So rather than taking your chances by voting for an unknown, you want to take out the defensive role instead??

Accusation? I don't have to accuse...you voted for me. That's a fact. I'm telling you your reason makes no sense.

Your thought process seems to be this: I don't know who romice is, and I don't know who pela is, therefore I will vote for Javik's elimination.

So you want to eliminate someone you believe to be a hero instead of trying for a spy. Unless you are a spy yourself, that is the opposite of logical.

Yes! Justice for EDI!

So the way I see things, Space and Moonae are the least suspicious players. Well, they're actually not suspicious to me at all. Reed pretty much confirmed Space is innocent and Moonae is Miranda. That leaves me with four players, if I counted correctly.

Out of the four players, adonniel is the only one who has not said that she was not aware of Reed's hint. Of course, this doesn't make her 100% innocent, just stating facts here.

Meanwhile, the rest of the three have basically said they were unaware of Reed's hint. Since two spies are in play, this means AT LEAST one person is probably not telling the truth here, since we know the spies knew that Reed was Liara. This kill was not a lucky break. They got Reed's hint and went for the kill. Also, whether or not one spy knew and told the other, or if they both knew as soon as reed told his hint, is up in the air.

I'm going to have to think this one over here, but so far, I think flyimar is probably the player who is telling the truth since she truly hasn't played all of the mass effect games and stated she wasn't really sure what reed was hinting at before he got offed. Of course, it's possible that if she is a spy, her accomplice might have told her Reed's Liara.

Dragon and romice, not so sure about. Dragon actually responded to Reed while he was hinting for the second time, which means she read it. And it seems she got the hint, since she said that Reed and Space were both safe. Then she switched from Reed to me. So I'm not sure whether or not I'm buying her defense at the moment, unless she thought reed was another role. Which doesn't make sense, because why would she view both Space and Reed innocent if she thought Reed was another role?

With romice, I don't know. I have to be honest, she's always a bit of a mystery to me, especially after the events of the last Skyhold game. whether or not she's telling the truth is 50/50 to me so far.

So right now, I'm a bit more suspicious of dragon, but that's only because things aren't adding up to me. There seems to be an inconsistency on whether or not she truly knew about reed's hint before he got eliminated. Unless I'm missing something, which I probably am.

ETA: Of course, this is all according to my POV. I understand that in other player's POV, there are two players who were aware of reed's hint, and two or three others who claim they weren't.

I didn't get defensive until after you'd voted for me, so that logic doesn't hold. And of course that would make me defensive. It makes a lot of people defensive to be voted for.

And sure, of course you can vote for whoever you want. Special roles notwithstanding, that's how this game works. You vote for who you want. But if you think it's somehow unreasonable for me to question your logic in voting for me, then I think you're missing the point of the game.


Agreed.


Um...this would actually support adonniel being a spy, not her being innocent. (Potentially, at least.) Since the spies definitely knew who Liareed was, then that casts some suspicion on the one player who apparently didn't deny catching the hint.


Well, yes? Of course I read it. I came right out and said that I had, in fact, read it. I just said that it hadn't registered as a hint, for whatever reason.


After I went back to look for it, after Liara was revealed, yes I did.


I hadn't given any thought to who Reed was. Probably no one has noticed, but I haven't been on the boards as much lately. I didn't take the time to think about who Reed was, it was more like, the only reason I'd voted for Reed in the first place was because he voted for me, so when he removed his vote, so did I. That said, his comment about not voting for Space this time made an impression (though I joked that they might both be spies), so when Space then backed Moon, it sort of connected the three of them as trustworthy.


I think the only thing you're missing is my reduced BSN schedule, causing me to not put much thought into the last voting round


Well, a while back I suggested having a "Glyph" feature, allowing Liara's last investigation to become known if she were eliminated early, but you all didn't like the idea

Where?


I didn't say either of those things. I said that you seem to think I'm being unreasonable for questioning you.


I didn't say that or suggest it.


But you are treating it as if it is. Again, your logic seems to be that since you suspect I'm Javik, that it makes more sense to vote for me...that my being Javik would make me more likely to be a spy. That is what I'm trying to understand, because it doesn't make sense. I am no more likely to be a spy than pela or romice.

If you had said that, of the three of us who you are not sure of (me, pela, romice), you had randomly picked one to vote on and ended up with me, that would make sense, because we are equally likely to be spies at this point. But what you instead did was claimed that since (you believe) I am Javik, that somehow makes me more likely to be the spy. That is what I do not understand, and what I have been trying to get you to explain. But instead of explaining, you are getting angry.


You edited your post, so here's the rest.

No, it isn't spy behavior. I wouldn't have even noticed that tidbit if pela hadn't pointed it out first.

I already addressed that, so I'll just refer you to my previous post. I don't see any point in arguing further.