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Post by dragontartare on Apr 20, 2018 1:50:09 GMT
I'm not sure whether to laugh at this clever merging or to be offended because I actually don't like Liara or because it could be calling me a liar. lmao ("liar" "reed") lmao I didn't even notice the "liar reed" thing I can relate to not liking Liara now that I'm playing a renegade Shepard who has to have this forced friendship with her and can't tell her off. @space Cowboy (Idk why the tag won't work =/) You have to remove the space, I think? Space CowboyThat oughta work...
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Post by sgtreed24 on Apr 20, 2018 1:55:05 GMT
I'm not sure whether to laugh at this clever merging or to be offended because I actually don't like Liara or because it could be calling me a liar. lmao ("liar" "reed") lmao I didn't even notice the "liar reed" thing I can relate to not liking Liara now that I'm playing a renegade Shepard who has to have this forced friendship with her and can't tell her off. @space Cowboy (Idk why the tag won't work =/) You have to remove the space, I think? Space Cowboy That oughta work... Pfft, well that's just misleading... his name clearly has a space in it! Thank you. And I won't hold your love for Liara against you
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Post by Deleted on Apr 20, 2018 2:05:19 GMT
I already addressed that, so I'll just refer you to my previous post. I don't see any point in arguing further. Certainly. There is nothing wrong with the way you phrase things.
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Post by Space Cowboy on Apr 20, 2018 2:14:43 GMT
I'm not sure whether to laugh at this clever merging or to be offended because I actually don't like Liara or because it could be calling me a liar. lmao ("liar" "reed" I think I started that, merging the player and character name. Not so easy to do with names like dragontartare Pfft, well that's just misleading... his name clearly has a space in it! Of course my name has a space in it. It also has a 'Cowboy'. If you hover your mouse over my name it shows my account name, which is 'spacecowboy'. That's the one you have to tag. Another poster named "Laughing Man" has a completely different and very hard to spell account name. Tagging him is a pain
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Post by dragontartare on Apr 20, 2018 2:15:33 GMT
EDIT: Well, er, I didn't realize it had gotten so heated. I hadn't read all the posts past what I did to quote Dragon on... perhaps I shouldn't have posted. Kinda look like a douche now. Sorry. I just figured you were trying to lighten the mood
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Post by dragontartare on Apr 20, 2018 2:17:30 GMT
If you hover your mouse over my name it shows my account name, which is 'spacecowboy'. That's the one you have to tag. Another poster named "Laughing Man" has a completely different and very hard to spell account name. Tagging him is a pain tzeenchianapostrophe With all the times I've had to tag him for RP, I ought to know it by now.
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If you hover your mouse over my name it shows my account name, which is 'spacecowboy'. That's the one you have to tag. Another poster named "Laughing Man" has a completely different and very hard to spell account name. Tagging him is a pain tzeenchianapostrophe With all the times I've had to tag him for RP, I ought to know it by now. That's the one
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Post by romice on Apr 20, 2018 5:14:36 GMT
Well things got heated here, haven't they? Sorry for being so quiet, Uni got out of hand yesterday. With romice, I don't know. I have to be honest, she's always a bit of a mystery to me, especially after the events of the last Skyhold game. whether or not she's telling the truth is 50/50 to me so far. I've never been so mysterious outside of this game, I have absolutely no poker face Actually, I played ME2 and ME3 more than the original. I always found it a bit of a chore to get through, so I just go off of saves I find online. And, as you know, Liara is way less shy in the latter games, she does have fun at the Citadel party. I just haven't connected it. A actually thought he might be hinting Garrus. Again, your logic seems to be that since you suspect I'm Javik, that it makes more sense to vote for me...that my being Javik would make me more likely to be a spy. That is what I'm trying to understand, because it doesn't make sense. I think adonniel might be voting for you, because claiming a role is usually a sing of not being a spy, and it would be a great spy tactic to claim it and act all innocent. I'm not saying that's you, I'm just suggesting that adonniel's logic does make sense. _________________________________________ When it comes to voting right now it's not more of a coin toss than it was in round 1. Yes, Space and Moon are pretty much in the clear, but that still leaves me with 4 potential suspects, none of which is more suspicious then the rest. I still need some time to figure it out, although I'm leaning more towards either pela or dragon. Nothing is set in stone, though.
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Post by fylimar on Apr 20, 2018 7:30:46 GMT
Ok folks I really don't get many role hints, I had no idea, who reed was, until gervaise said so in his narrative. I had no idea, that dragon claimed Javik either.
Obviously, space got cleard by Liara and Moonae claimed Miranda and no one said anything against it. So for now, they are good in my books. That leaves dragon, pela, adonniel and romice. For now, I tend to believe dragons claim and I hope, we heroes really have a defensive role on our side, even with a drawback. That leaves pela, adonniel and romice as suspects. I have to think a bit more about all of it
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Post by Moonae on Apr 20, 2018 11:09:36 GMT
Honestly, you didn’t need to know the characters well to get Reed’s hint. That bit about not liking parties? I didn’t get that either. The part that made me think Reed was Liara was when he claimed to be an important role that the heroes wouldn’t want to lose, and pointed out that he normally votes for Space in round 1 but didn’t do this now for some reason *hint hint*.
This has nothing to do with Mass Effect and all to do with the game we’re playing right here. While it is possible to have simply missed this post or else not realized it was a hint (even though it has the word hint in it…), I’m still suspicious of anyone who claims to have missed the hint to due not knowing Liara as a character.
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On a different note, regarding the argument adonniel and Dragon have been having: Someone (I think it was pela?) mentioned that, because Liara didn’t get protected, Kasumi and Javik are probably evil (or, alternatvely, not in the game). Dragon then responded by defending the hypothetical Kasumi and Javik. I think Dragon’s response is the reason adonniel started suspecting that Dragon was Javik. It would also explain why she voted for Dragon (Javik not protecting Liara = maybe evil).
However, when Dragon pressed adonniel as to why she voted the way she did, adonniel did not refer back to this again. The more adonniel wrote not explaining things, the less certain I became of my own assumption that Pela’s(?) post led to adonniel’s vote.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 20, 2018 12:30:58 GMT
On a different note, regarding the argument adonniel and Dragon have been having: Someone (I think it was pela?) mentioned that, because Liara didn’t get protected, Kasumi and Javik are probably evil (or, alternatvely, not in the game). Dragon then responded by defending the hypothetical Kasumi and Javik. I think Dragon’s response is the reason adonniel started suspecting that Dragon was Javik. It would also explain why she voted for Dragon (Javik not protecting Liara = maybe evil). Thank you. This is mostly correct. However, in my decision to vote Dragon it wasn't the central logic that a defensive role is responsible. It was more of the fact how Dragon was discussing the situation with Space and Pela that triggered my suspicion. It's more of intuition and more of psychological observation being involved. I saw space, pela and dragon discussing a certain point 'could the defensive roles have saved Liara last night or no' but when people are discussing, they behave in certain ways. With Dragon I felt like this hit closely home due to her reaction. So, I assumed Javik (also I think before she said something about parties back on the pages) and the vibes were more on the guilty side. However, when Dragon pressed adonniel as to why she voted the way she did, adonniel did not refer back to this again. When a person begins their conversation with you with the words, "You have no common sense" and ends this conversation with "You don't get the grasp of the game," they are not just countering your ideas, they are being derisive towards your opinion in general. I don't think my reason for voting her was garbage to have it tossed at back me like I don't know how to play the game or be dictated what I SHOULD be doing. The way she phrased her questions was offensive because they weren't aimed at clearing up what I meant, but aimed at scolding me.
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Post by sgtreed24 on Apr 20, 2018 12:35:08 GMT
Just because nobody seems to have pointed it out and ya know, I can still help the heroes I think... but I believe the reason Adonniel was thinking Dragon was Javik was because Dragon did say she left a hint and the hint was (I believe) that she's tons of fun at parties. Which would seem to hint at Javik since he gets everyone drunk.
I don't think it was because Dragon became defensive. Obviously anyone being accused of being a spy would be defensive.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 20, 2018 12:36:42 GMT
I don't think it was because Dragon became defensive. Obviously anyone being accused of being a spy would be defensive. Of course if somebody starts talking to you with the words 'You've got no common sense' and adds 'You don't get the grasp of the game.' it's not at all offensive. ;(
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Post by sgtreed24 on Apr 20, 2018 12:39:46 GMT
I don't think it was because Dragon became defensive. Obviously anyone being accused of being a spy would be defensive. Of course if somebody starts talking to you with the words 'You've got no common sense' and adds 'You don't get the grasp of the game.' it's not at all offensive. ;( Oh for sure! That's not what I was referring to. I was just saying why I think you believed Dragon to be Javik. Which, could possibly suggest evil Javik if they didn't try to save Liara. BUT would it necessarily be a good idea to use Javik to protect Liara? I mean, it voids her power and then the spies take 2 the next night and so her power still doesn't get to be used. The heroes are now down another protective role and Liara is still out as well.
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Post by dragontartare on Apr 20, 2018 13:35:57 GMT
Hang on...I get accused of saying things that I didn't actually say (false "quotes" that are not in my posts anywhere, plus misrepresentations) and instead of getting called out on it, people say "of course" and upvote the lies?
I'm done playing. Vote me off, give my role away, whatever.
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Post by Space Cowboy on Apr 20, 2018 13:42:28 GMT
I don't think it was because Dragon became defensive. Obviously anyone being accused of being a spy would be defensive. Of course if somebody starts talking to you with the words 'You've got no common sense' and adds 'You don't get the grasp of the game.' it's not at all offensive. ;( Her words were actually something like your reason for voting for her makes no sense. She was trying to defend herself against a vote. Whether she was correct in her assessment I don't know. But she didn't say anything about your common sense. I wish you two wouldn't fight. I'm not getting further involved in it though.
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Post by fylimar on Apr 20, 2018 15:05:26 GMT
Honestly, you didn’t need to know the characters well to get Reed’s hint. That bit about not liking parties? I didn’t get that either. The part that made me think Reed was Liara was when he claimed to be an important role that the heroes wouldn’t want to lose, and pointed out that he normally votes for Space in round 1 but didn’t do this now for some reason *hint hint*. This has nothing to do with Mass Effect and all to do with the game we’re playing right here. While it is possible to have simply missed this post or else not realized it was a hint (even though it has the word hint in it…), I’m still suspicious of anyone who claims to have missed the hint to due not knowing Liara as a character. -- On a different note, regarding the argument adonniel and Dragon have been having: Someone (I think it was pela?) mentioned that, because Liara didn’t get protected, Kasumi and Javik are probably evil (or, alternatvely, not in the game). Dragon then responded by defending the hypothetical Kasumi and Javik. I think Dragon’s response is the reason adonniel started suspecting that Dragon was Javik. It would also explain why she voted for Dragon (Javik not protecting Liara = maybe evil). However, when Dragon pressed adonniel as to why she voted the way she did, adonniel did not refer back to this again. The more adonniel wrote not explaining things, the less certain I became of my own assumption that Pela’s(?) post led to adonniel’s vote. I'm at a hospital at the moment with limited internet, so I sometimes have to go through the posts very quickly. It doesen't help, that the board is acting weird at the moment and I don't always see the posts in the right order. In my defense, I did get, that reed hinter at an important role and that he didn't vote for space, but for some reason, I was convinced, he claimed Garrus, because he said something about a Shot in the dark. I wrongly thought, that was his claim.
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Post by fylimar on Apr 20, 2018 15:18:24 GMT
Hang on...I get accused of saying things that I didn't actually say (false "quotes" that are not in my posts anywhere, plus misrepresentations) and instead of getting called out on it, people say "of course" and upvote the lies? I'm done playing. Vote me off, give my role away, whatever. Please don't go. I know, arguments are no fun and I was about to quit at one point in an earlier game too, but it would not be the Same without you. The same goes for adonniel. Those games are a lot of fun for me, especially now, and it would be sad, if a misunderstanding or disagreement would end them.
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Post by fylimar on Apr 20, 2018 15:26:12 GMT
Sorry for the triple post, but I felt, like I should make a new post for game related stuff:
About Javik and Kasumi: their protection value is very limited. Javik comes with a major setback and Kasumi needs to know, who to protect. Obviously most people did get reeds hint, which might make one think, that both roles are evil. Or the Javik player didn't want to give the spies two Kilos the other night. Or the Kasumi player got it wrong and didn't get the hint. Or one or both might not be in play and misintetpreted dragons hint. I will observe a bit more and hope, the dispute can be settled peacefully, before casting a vote.
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Post by sgtreed24 on Apr 20, 2018 15:42:34 GMT
Hang on...I get accused of saying things that I didn't actually say (false "quotes" that are not in my posts anywhere, plus misrepresentations) and instead of getting called out on it, people say "of course" and upvote the lies? I'm done playing. Vote me off, give my role away, whatever. The only thing I said you actually said was the hint about the parties. I was thinking that's where people got the idea that you could be Javik. The other stuff, I only agree with in the sense that yes statements such as that would be offensive. Not that you actually said them. Which is why I was saying that wasn't what I was referring to. I do not upvote or endorse that. I, too, wish you wouldn't quit. Even with me being the newbie member, I've quite enjoyed you being in the 2 Citadel games I've played so far. It would definitely be a blow to lose you (or Adonniel for that matter).
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Post by sgtreed24 on Apr 20, 2018 15:44:57 GMT
Honestly, you didn’t need to know the characters well to get Reed’s hint. That bit about not liking parties? I didn’t get that either. The part that made me think Reed was Liara was when he claimed to be an important role that the heroes wouldn’t want to lose, and pointed out that he normally votes for Space in round 1 but didn’t do this now for some reason *hint hint*. This has nothing to do with Mass Effect and all to do with the game we’re playing right here. While it is possible to have simply missed this post or else not realized it was a hint (even though it has the word hint in it…), I’m still suspicious of anyone who claims to have missed the hint to due not knowing Liara as a character. -- On a different note, regarding the argument adonniel and Dragon have been having: Someone (I think it was pela?) mentioned that, because Liara didn’t get protected, Kasumi and Javik are probably evil (or, alternatvely, not in the game). Dragon then responded by defending the hypothetical Kasumi and Javik. I think Dragon’s response is the reason adonniel started suspecting that Dragon was Javik. It would also explain why she voted for Dragon (Javik not protecting Liara = maybe evil). However, when Dragon pressed adonniel as to why she voted the way she did, adonniel did not refer back to this again. The more adonniel wrote not explaining things, the less certain I became of my own assumption that Pela’s(?) post led to adonniel’s vote. I'm at a hospital at the moment with limited internet, so I sometimes have to go through the posts very quickly. It doesen't help, that the board is acting weird at the moment and I don't always see the posts in the right order. In my defense, I did get, that reed hinter at an important role and that he didn't vote for space, but for some reason, I was convinced, he claimed Garrus, because he said something about a Shot in the dark. I wrongly thought, that was his claim. Just to hopefully clear it up a bit for you, the shot in the dark stuff was my defense against Moon's original vote for me. Because she had voted for me because I didn't say my vote was random in the first round. I just said that I don't see the point in always saying that because it should be obvious in round 1. The hints were I don't go to parties and me thinking space is innocent and not voting for him in round 1 as I usually do. Hope that helps
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Post by Deleted on Apr 20, 2018 16:23:25 GMT
Of course if somebody starts talking to you with the words 'You've got no common sense' and adds 'You don't get the grasp of the game.' it's not at all offensive. ;( Oh for sure! That's not what I was referring to. I was just saying why I think you believed Dragon to be Javik. Which, could possibly suggest evil Javik if they didn't try to save Liara. BUT would it necessarily be a good idea to use Javik to protect Liara? I mean, it voids her power and then the spies take 2 the next night and so her power still doesn't get to be used. The heroes are now down another protective role and Liara is still out as well. My vote is not based on ofmwg you evil person didn't save Liara. My vote is based on how Dragon behaved when this point (whether a defensive role is responsible or not) was raised by both Pela and Space. At the start of the round I listed Pela and Dragon as two people I'm most likely to vote for. Conveniently, they were engaged in an active conversation with Space from the start of the round, which gave me an opportunity to observe how they behave. I found Dragon's reaction suspicious when this point was discussed. So I voted her. I most certainly do not appreciate being told that I'm missing the point of a game for casting this vote.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 20, 2018 16:35:38 GMT
Hang on...I get accused of saying things that I didn't actually say (false "quotes" that are not in my posts anywhere, plus misrepresentations) and instead of getting called out on it, people say "of course" and upvote the lies? I'm done playing. Vote me off, give my role away, whatever. Once again, everyone is well within their right to debate with another person, but it must be done in a polite manner. Your tone was aimed more at telling me off for voting you than at clarifying the situation. You don't seem to realize that the way you phrase things tends to be aggressive and I find it offensive. <iframe style="position: absolute; width: 23.960000000000036px; height: 3.819999999999993px; z-index: -9999; border-style: none;left: 15px; top: -5px;" id="MoatPxIOPT0_34131143" scrolling="no" width="23.960000000000036" height="3.819999999999993"></iframe> <iframe style="position: absolute; width: 23.96px; height: 3.82px; z-index: -9999; border-style: none; left: 1138px; top: -5px;" id="MoatPxIOPT0_14641221" scrolling="no" width="23.960000000000036" height="3.819999999999993"></iframe> <iframe style="position: absolute; width: 23.96px; height: 3.82px; z-index: -9999; border-style: none; left: 15px; top: 131px;" id="MoatPxIOPT0_52532109" scrolling="no" width="23.960000000000036" height="3.819999999999993"></iframe> <iframe style="position: absolute; width: 23.96px; height: 3.82px; z-index: -9999; border-style: none; left: 1138px; top: 131px;" id="MoatPxIOPT0_76138504" scrolling="no" width="23.960000000000036" height="3.819999999999993"></iframe>
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Post by romice on Apr 20, 2018 16:46:01 GMT
Guys, I agree with most here, please don't fight. When both original GMs are fighting it's kind of like when parents fight, you just stand there and hope it blows over Those games are a lot of fun for me, especially now, and it would be sad, if a misunderstanding or disagreement would end them. Completely agree, these games are a way to socialise without actually socialising for me, so I really appreciate them. So adonniel and dragontartare, can you just throw flowers at each other with little "sorry" notes?
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Post by Deleted on Apr 20, 2018 17:03:04 GMT
Those games are a lot of fun for me, especially now, and it would be sad, if a misunderstanding or disagreement would end them. My requirement is very simple - I want to be talked to politely even if the person arguing with me disagrees.
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