[Day/Night Game] Trouble on the Citadel - round "LE Part 2: Why Cerberus Is Right For You"

Maybe some people just like to be evil/watch the world burn?

Whilst this has never been tested in game, I did query this on Skyhold because I realised that the description says it is on a first come first served basis who gets to ask the question. So if a spy got in first they could definitely ask something that could be harmful to the heroes so Dorian would want to lie or evade with his answer. We do not really have an exact equivalent in the Citadel game.

The problem last game was that whilst we have always been allowed to hint on the Citadel, people were even less willing to do so under the new rules. As I pointed out they probably felt even more risk attached to doing so because the information might be used against them by both spy and heroes. Once people were forced into giving clues to save themselves from the vote, it quickly narrowed down the range of suspects. Since I had escaped any votes on round 2, I opted for the low profile approach, whereas if I had been in more danger I might have taken a more aggressive path in challenging other people's assertions. For example, it was assumed that Reed was telling the truth and so people changed their votes from him.

I think that part of the problem with the new scenario was the lack of a time limit, which might have encouraged more conversation and action a bit earlier. So if the initial result of the secret vote is going to be revealed, then state the players have a specific time limit to change their vote from their first choice, say 48 hours, and then stick to that deadline. Yes, it could allow the spy the possibility to swoop in at the last moment and change the outcome but that would be a risky strategy in itself as it would be rather revealing if identified in the next round of questioning.

Perhaps we could return to the conventional game for the next one in order to try out the new/tweaked roles and see how they work. Then once we have ironed out any issues with them (from a balance perspective) we could try the captured spy game again.

I definitely think that we should limit the number of certain role types whichever scenario we decide to use, so if we definitely start with Mordin then either Miranda or Kasumi would not be available unless there are sufficient players to allow at least 3 spies in the conventional game or 2 spies (in addition to the captured one) with the new one.

Sorry, I've been inattentive What was the suggestion for Mordin? I mean, I know healer, but how would it work?

I like Grunt as bodyguard (because I don't like Zaeed)  . Would he get to choose one player to protect each night?

One player per night makes senee. Unless that's unbalanced.

Here too: I will be on a short vacation from tomorrow to Tuesday, but I will try to look in here at least once a day, so that I don't miss the start of the new round

I'm back Looks like we're adding Mordin and Grunt, and playing under the old rules to test out their roles.

Mordin may give out one protection thingy per night. The recipient may use it on any subsequent night (not the night when it is given). Heroes will be protected by Cerberus should that hero be attacked on the night they activate it. I'm thinking if the Cerberus agent gets a protection thingy from Mordin, then they should get to target two people on any subsequent night (since protection would be useless). What do you think about that?

Grunt would get to protect one player per night, but must name the player (unlike Miranda). The same player cannot be protected twice in a row. Should Grunt be able to protect himself?

Fylimar had a good point about Grunt being too powerful if alllowed to protect himself

Not really, since Dragon already said that he can't protect the same person twice in a row.

So, that being the rule, I don't think it's too powerful to allow him to protect himself.

I like both roles. Since Grunt cannot protect the same person twice in a row, that should automatically stop him from continually protecting himself, although it might be better than he can only protect other people as we already have Miranda who gives blanket protection to everyone including herself.

Should Mordin be able to give out a protection more than once whether he is good or evil? We already have Kasumi as well as Miranda and with Grunt as well, that is a lot of protective roles. How about Mordin gives out protection once per game. If he is good then it protects the person from indoctrination and if he is evil it protects his fellow spies from Jack or Garrus.