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Post by Space Cowboy on Oct 7, 2018 9:47:03 GMT
Oh wow, we got her Good attempt, Dragon! I didn't really know who to suspect so this was dumb luck I suppose. Who were Cat and Dusty? I think those were the only roles I didn't know for sure. I wasn't sure if Dusty was really claiming Garrus. I agree we should tweak the roles, and clarify them on both good and evil sides. Even if it should be obvious, it doesn't hurt to mention it. I protected Gervaise the previous night, so wasn't going to be able to protect her the coming night. I was hoping a bluff would work and they (Dragon) would try to take me out. I guess I won't find out now
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Post by Obsidian Gryphon on Oct 7, 2018 10:10:08 GMT
Cat is Wrex Dusty is Garrus (good)
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Post by fylimar on Oct 7, 2018 11:07:31 GMT
Yeah it was bad luck, that gerva investigated me first night, after scoring two more or less useless characters for us agents and with DA a downright dangerous one, because DA gets always voted off early. But thanks, gerva, for the good intentions I would scratch DA tbh, because whoever gets that role really has no fun playing. They have to vote whomever they are told to vote for plus they get voted off early on most times. I think most abilities work exactly on dark as on light side, apart from the two that are explained on the first page.
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Post by gervaise21 on Oct 7, 2018 11:57:01 GMT
But thanks, gerva, for the good intentions Ironic isn't it that my kind hearted intentions ended up revealing a spy. Otherwise I might well have gone for Space or Pela. Mind you I did say to OG that I thought it was beneficial either way to the heroes whether you were a spy or not. I've got to ask, which Krogan was protected by Miranda the first night? I started wondering about Space's claim because the narrative described him as looming over the person at the restaurant and I think I'm right in saying that Grunt is shorter than the other Krogan, so only about Shepard's height, but that just could have been how the graphics work out in certain shots. Also, since the spies would have known who they attacked, then the following night I'd thought they would have gone for them again the second night unless they figured it was Wrex and not Grunt.
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Post by gervaise21 on Oct 7, 2018 12:12:42 GMT
With regard to which roles should be in the game, perhaps it would be an idea to have a core group who are always potentially present and then a pool A and pool B of roles that are only present if the others aren't in order to balance out the advantages to heroes and villains. We talked about this with respect to Grunt, Mordin, Miranda and Kasumi when the first two were introduced.
However, if the spies land two roles that are not particularly helpful to them, it does make it less serious for the heroes. So, for example, if the spies get Dr Chakwas and Emily Wong then they have only limited usefulness to them unless certain criteria are met; three spies in the game for Chakwas to be useful and at least one spy still alive for Emily Wong to be helpful. By contrast, as I pointed out last game, an evil Mordin could be potentially lethal to the heroes, provided the spies play his ability carefully (although it still requires the non Mordin spy to survive longest), so is equally useful to either side.
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Post by fylimar on Oct 7, 2018 12:13:51 GMT
We did go after Cati in the first night
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Post by Space Cowboy on Oct 7, 2018 12:31:47 GMT
Good going heroes! Gervaise you were the only one Ik knew to be a hero and kept going back and forth on the others. I would have picked another so twice in this round! Congrats Gervaise Space -I was that close in believing you when you said Garrus was evil! I'm thinking wait..is Garrus evil and I don't know it- oh no! Garrus can't be! Very fun round guys thanks! Heh, maybe you misunderstood? Someone could be given Garrus's role and still put on the cerberus side. Just like Fylimar was Evil kaidan. That doesnt mean those roles are always evil. Liara and Jack are the only ones guaranteed to never be spies.
Anyway, as it happened, you were good Garrus, as he should be!
Yeah it was fun!
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Post by Space Cowboy on Oct 7, 2018 12:33:28 GMT
We did go after Cati in the first night I'm surprised Cat didnt call me out on my theory then I guess he didnt want to reveal himself.
I also made a point of saying it could have been the other krogan, so as to make sure people didn't think I was making a false claim.
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Post by Obsidian Gryphon on Oct 7, 2018 13:44:22 GMT
Did you all realise that Romice landed Miri for the last few rounds? I couldn't believe it when it went to her again this round.
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Post by Space Cowboy on Oct 7, 2018 14:28:22 GMT
Did you all realise that Romice landed Miri for the last few rounds? I couldn't believe it when it went to her again this round. I didn’t. Heh the RNG likes romice as Miri and Reed as Kasumi
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Post by Space Cowboy on Oct 7, 2018 14:29:26 GMT
Heh, maybe you misunderstood? Someone could be given Garrus's role and still put on the cerberus side. Just like Fylimar was Evil kaidan. That doesnt mean those roles are always evil. Liara and Jack are the only ones guaranteed to never be spies. Anyway, as it happened, you were good Garrus, as he should be! Yeah it was fun!
Yeah I didn't know that. I was surprised Kaidan was evil too. So that made me think okay maybe Romice is not good Miranda but how can that be? But maybe? I don't know! And then you knew that Garrus is evil how? Oh no I missed something crucial - again! Garrus must be evil! You should see the notes I have of this game Aw, heh, sorry for confusing you. I just meant it was a possibility.
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Post by romice on Oct 7, 2018 15:34:47 GMT
Yea, I was Miri in 3 out of 4 last rounds. Seems to be fate Good round, everyone, although a little hero-sided one. I'm in for the next one, if we're having it
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Post by fylimar on Oct 7, 2018 16:50:03 GMT
I'm in too
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Post by Space Cowboy on Oct 7, 2018 16:51:53 GMT
I'm in three
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Post by pelassarias on Oct 7, 2018 17:39:18 GMT
Yeah, dragon and fylimar definitely got unlucky this game considering not only did fylimar get checked N1, but dragon was also Allers which meant she couldn't really do anything when her accomplice got checked. Now if she was my role, Legion, that could have been very interesting since she could have at least killed gervaise in a very dramatic fashion. . Instead of scrapping Allers entirely however, why not just make her the classic executioner role? Instead of rolling a random target each round, the classic exe randomly rolls a target for each game, and they don't necessarily have to vote for their target each round. In order to win, they just have to successfully vote off their target once. If the target dies during the game, Allers will have to roll another target again. And having Allers with a target for the rest of the game will also make it less obvious that they're Allers. Not forcing Allers to vote for their target each round will also make it a bit less obvious that they're Allers. Also, why not just make her a Neutral role as well since Evil or Good Allers is not much of a team role in general? So when she successfully votes her target off, she wins and then she can decide whether to help the Spies or Heroes for the rest of the game. Also, I definitely do think the spies have to at least have one powerful role within their team simply for balancing reasons. For example, Mordin, Legion, Garrus, Wrex, Miranda, etc. All in all though, pretty fun game, so count me in for the next one!
ETA: Just realized E vil Clone is basically what I just proposed for Allers except they can actually be more useful to either side since they earn a role after their target gets voted off.
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Post by gervaise21 on Oct 7, 2018 18:08:33 GMT
I am happy to play if everyone else is okay with it.
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Post by fylimar on Oct 7, 2018 18:19:43 GMT
I am happy to play if everyone else is okay with it. Of course we are
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Post by dragontartare on Oct 7, 2018 20:18:54 GMT
Yeah, dragon and fylimar definitely got unlucky this game considering not only did fylimar got checked N1, but dragon was also Allers which meant she couldn't really do anything when her accomplice got checked. Now if she was my role, Legion, that could have been very interesting since she could have at least killed gervaise in a very dramatic fashion. . Instead of scrapping Allers entirely however, why not just make her the classic executioner role? Instead of rolling a random target each round, the classic exe randomly rolls a target for each game, and they don't necessarily have to vote for their target each round. In order to win, they just have to successfully vote off their target once. If the target dies during the game, Allers will have to roll another target again. And having Allers with a target for the rest of the game will also make it less obvious that they're Allers. Not forcing Allers to vote for their target each round will also make it a bit less obvious that they're Allers. Also, why not just make her a Neutral role as well since Evil or Good Allers is not much of a team role in general? So when she successfully votes her target off, she wins and then she can decide whether to help the Spies or Heroes for the rest of the game. Also, I definitely do think the spies have to at least have one powerful role within their team simply for balancing reasons. For example, Mordin, Legion, Garrus, Wrex, Miranda, etc. All in all though, pretty fun game, so count me in for the next one!
ETA: Just realized E vil Clone is basically what I just proposed for Allers except they can actually be more useful to either side since they earn a role after their target gets voted off.
I do like this idea for Allers, but as you say, it's a lot like the evil clone, and we realized EC is difficult to play unless there are a lot of players. We may be better off just re-retiring Allers. For EDI, I'm thinking she always starts out good, but might be vulnerable to turning only the first two nights, after which she gains the ability to sacrifice herself for another role. For example, let's say night 3, she believes Liara is going to be attacked and is pretty sure no protection roles are available. She tells the GM "I am sacrificing myself tonight," and she gets eliminated in place of whoever the spies go after that night (if that role is saved by someone else, however, EDI gets to live). What does everyone think? Also, I'll play again.
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Post by gervaise21 on Oct 7, 2018 20:39:36 GMT
What does everyone think? I like the sound of that for EDI.
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Post by sgtreed24 on Oct 7, 2018 20:51:17 GMT
Aw nuts, I was really hoping pela was evil and by me participating it would ruin her victory like dead pela did to me Nice job anyways heroes! Did you all realise that Romice landed Miri for the last few rounds? I couldn't believe it when it went to her again this round. I didn’t. Heh the RNG likes romice as Miri and Reed as Kasumi And of course, I don't like kasumi at all in the games and sometimes don't even recruit her lol.
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Post by Catilina on Oct 7, 2018 21:02:55 GMT
The truth triumphed again, and the world was saved from destruction.
I'm in.
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Post by dragontartare on Oct 7, 2018 23:15:01 GMT
I've crossed out Diana and EC from the role lists for now. I have also updated EDI's description. Any objections, speak before we start the next round
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Post by Obsidian Gryphon on Oct 8, 2018 0:54:25 GMT
Since Dragon got an unlucky round, how about I do the next one before retiring? Citadel Round 13Crew01] Romice 02] Fylimar 03] Space Cowboy 04] Dustyelf 05] Gervaise21 06] Dragontartare 07] Catilina 08] Tagging potential players; sgtreed24 , ArcadiaGrey , pelassarias . Did I miss out anyone?
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Post by dragontartare on Oct 8, 2018 3:24:42 GMT
Maybe Moonae? I can't remember how long she was going to be away.
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Post by sgtreed24 on Oct 8, 2018 6:23:53 GMT
Wait... why are we ditching the clone? Space had an epic game as the clone and even had one of the best endings we've had in these games. Just because Diana sucks, that's no reason to ditch the clone! lol Also, yes, I'm in. Thanks for the tag.
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