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Post by gervaise21 on Mar 5, 2020 19:38:06 GMT
Unless they can offer a good reason why my logic is faulty concerning Dragon being in the spy team, I would suggest that anyone voting for Dragon is suspicious.
However, at present I am keeping my vote on Space because if Seven is innocent, then the likely spy team is Space/Hero.
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Post by gervaise21 on Mar 5, 2020 19:46:27 GMT
Basically, I saw Dragon as high-risk. Originally I saw Dragon as high risk too, which is why I started giving thought as to who could be her potential partner. I still feel that her voting behaviour rules out her being on team spy. Of course I could be wrong about this but if we vote off a hero, then we are going to be in trouble regardless and I must admit that I believe Dragon's claim not to be the role you thought. With regard to high risk roles, if Space is evil Glyph then that will be bad for us overnight as he will be able to stop a hero from using their ability by inviting them to his party.
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Post by seven on Mar 5, 2020 19:48:14 GMT
I'm going to vote dragontaretare. Dragon, if you are who I think you are, then you can save yourself this round. I am having doubts about your devotion to me 😬 ouch
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Post by dadithinkimgay on Mar 5, 2020 20:07:24 GMT
I am having doubts about your devotion to me 😬 ouch LMAO hey, I’m here to protect you. Agree with you? Not so much. No one has said anything about protecting another in the previous night. I promise you can trust me. You can divorce me after this round. Lol.
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Post by seven on Mar 5, 2020 21:53:51 GMT
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Post by dadithinkimgay on Mar 5, 2020 23:30:37 GMT
Day 2 can kiss my ass. Gervaise, I’m keeping my poetry to myself now. There’s also leftovers in the fridge and I put some blankets/pillows out for you when you sleep on the couch tonight.
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Post by dragontartare on Mar 6, 2020 0:43:19 GMT
I've got wired internet! I decided to bet on my modem itself being the problem and went to get a new one from my ISP. I was partially right. Unfortunately, my router's WAN port also appears to be dead. The pain of no wifi is real Can a storm take out connected ethernet ports on a modem and a router? Is that a thing?? Anyway, as for the game, I thought someone did ask Hero a question? Hero went through and liked a bunch of my posts earlier today, so maybe we'll hear from him soon. Editing later to add clue summary again.
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Post by seven on Mar 6, 2020 2:14:23 GMT
Hero has been pretty quiet...is that suspicious?
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Post by pelassarias on Mar 6, 2020 2:53:29 GMT
Day 2 can kiss my ass. Gervaise, I’m keeping my poetry to myself now. There’s also leftovers in the fridge and I put some blankets/pillows out for you when you sleep on the couch tonight.
double ouch.
Voting Tally
seven - 3 - votes from dragontartare, Space Cowboy, and TheHeroOfFerelden
Space Cowboy - 1 - vote from gervaise
dragontartare - 2 - votes from dadithinkimgay and seven
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The voting will end in 48 hours! (but I'll be willing to extend if requested)
ETA: Included seven's vote for dragon. I knew I missed a vote...
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Post by seven on Mar 6, 2020 4:14:53 GMT
+ 1 for dragontartare from me
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Post by dragontartare on Mar 6, 2020 4:49:55 GMT
I would love to hear from hero too, unless he's a spy and wishes to spin lies
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Post by Space Cowboy on Mar 6, 2020 10:26:53 GMT
Hero is usually pretty quiet it’s like he has a life or something. 😛😄
Dragon, I hope your internet troubles are solved soon!
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Post by Space Cowboy on Mar 6, 2020 11:50:26 GMT
. *steals popcorn*
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Post by gervaise21 on Mar 6, 2020 18:41:11 GMT
Day 2 can kiss my ass. Gervaise, I’m keeping my poetry to myself now. There’s also leftovers in the fridge and I put some blankets/pillows out for you when you sleep on the couch tonight. Look if you are Charr then absolutely I embrace your devotion. Problem is you could be faking it. I'm rather suspicious considering you are still voting for Dragon and haven't said why you think my logic is wrong about her eligibility for team spy, just that you don't feel obliged to agree with me. I entirely agree from the perspective of Charr but it would be helpful to know why you disagree with me from a player's point of view. Anyway, I'm rather nervous of the situation regarding Dragon as it only requires one person to switch at the last minute to put her into the lead. Since no one has challenged my logic about Dragon being effectively a proven hero (because no obvious spy team mate) and no one seems inclined to vote for Space as an alternative to Seven (or Dragon), I change my vote from Space to Seven.
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Post by gervaise21 on Mar 6, 2020 18:50:23 GMT
Anyway, as for the game, I thought someone did ask Hero a question? I asked Hero if he was human and he answered a couple of pages back that he wasn't. Day 1 he said he was male. Hence my assumption that he was either Kal'Reager, Kirrahe or Niftu Cal. It seemed unlikely that he lied on Day 1, so that is why I immediately ruled him out for Glyph, although thinking about it, telling the truth would have been a dead give away. I still maintain that the only person who could be Glyph, based on the answers given, is Space. However, I suppose the second most likely candidate would be Hero. Hence Space saying that I had made false assumptions in my reasoning and people might have wanted to conceal their identity. Of course there is no guarantee that Glyph is good regardless of who has the role.
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Post by dragontartare on Mar 6, 2020 19:10:45 GMT
Anyway, as for the game, I thought someone did ask Hero a question? I asked Hero if he was human and he answered a couple of pages back that he wasn't. Day 1 he said he was male. Hence my assumption that he was either Kal'Reager, Kirrahe or Niftu Cal. It seemed unlikely that he lied on Day 1, so that is why I immediately ruled him out for Glyph, although thinking about it, telling the truth would have been a dead give away. I still maintain that the only person who could be Glyph, based on the answers given, is Space. However, I suppose the second most likely candidate would be Hero. Hence Space saying that I had made false assumptions in my reasoning and people might have wanted to conceal their identity. Of course there is no guarantee that Glyph is good regardless of who has the role. I initially had the same ideas for Hero as you did. If dadi is lying about Charr, then that means last night's savior still hasn't spoken up, which is really frustrating. TheHeroOfFerelden any thoughts and/or confessions here?
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Post by dadithinkimgay on Mar 6, 2020 19:48:21 GMT
Do I need to be indoctrinated for you to never say that word again? Anyway, first-round voting behavior isn't enough for me, especially since it was just Space putting Dragon in a huge tiebreaker. Also, Dragon has the potential to sway the votes anyway - it'd be an extremely smart move on their part to feint us like that. Dragon is still high-risk to me due to her potential power. Seven's potential power is not a definite win for the spies, unlike Dragon's. All of her potential roles spells bad news for us. I guess we'll see...
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Post by seven on Mar 6, 2020 20:26:04 GMT
. *steals popcorn* Ooohhh careful, Space. Might be... INDOCTRINATED!
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Post by seven on Mar 6, 2020 20:28:27 GMT
Do I need to be indoctrinated for you to never say that word again? Anyway, first-round voting behavior isn't enough for me, especially since it was just Space putting Dragon in a huge tiebreaker. Also, Dragon has the potential to sway the votes anyway - it'd be an extremely smart move on their part to feint us like that. Dragon is still high-risk to me due to her potential power. Seven's potential power is not a definite win for the spies, unlike Dragon's. All of her potential roles spells bad news for us. I guess we'll see... I'm glad someone else sees it!
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Post by dragontartare on Mar 7, 2020 5:00:57 GMT
Also, Dragon has the potential to sway the votes anyway - it'd be an extremely smart move on their part to feint us like that. There isn't a vote-swaying ability in this game. I guess you're assuming I'm Aria and that I'm going to mimic a vote-swaying ability from some other game? I already told you you're wrong about who you think I am. I don't know why you are so convinced of this when you admit there are other possibilities for my role. Dragon is still high-risk to me due to her potential power. Seven's potential power is not a definite win for the spies, unlike Dragon's. All of her potential roles spells bad news for us. If I were a spy, I would have used my ability already. Just as I believe a good Oriana would have used her ability on night 1, so should an evil my-role have used theirs right away. No use saving it and possibly not getting to use it at all. But a good my-role is better off never using the ability, rather than risk using it wrongly.
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Post by gervaise21 on Mar 7, 2020 9:47:00 GMT
There isn't a vote-swaying ability in this game. However, Aria can duplicate any role either on the Citadel, in previous games or in Wolf Hunt, where there is a vote-swaying role. This is why it is such a powerful role and why I understand Dadi's fears concerning it. It is also why I thought, instead of worrying about what you could do, it might be more productive to see if there was any evidence to suggest there was no need for heroes to fear her. Dragon is still high-risk to me due to her potential power. Here is the problem. If Dragon is Aria then she can re-direct the votes to a hero regardless of whether we vote for her or not. So it makes sense to try and identify her partner. Since you would agree that can't be Seven and you seem convinced of her innocence, why didn't you join me in voting for Space? He would be the most likely spy partner for Dragon (based off your logic) and if Seven had swapped to me as well then we would have at least have had a tie-breaker with the potential for a spy to be eliminated. Essentially if both spies survive this round we are sunk regardless of whether Aria is in the game or not, particularly if Glphy is evil and so can block dangerous night roles that could potentially take one of them out. Anyway, first-round voting behavior isn't enough for me, especially since it was just Space putting Dragon in a huge tiebreaker. Okay, the way I see it is this. By voting for Hero, Dragon had just broken the tie-breaker. So why would Dragon do this as a spy and vote for the same person as her fellow spy, then her fellow spy swap out and put her in the tie-breaker, particularly if it risked her having to use up her ability in the first round (based off the idea Dragon is Aria)? Bear in mind also that Dragon is insisting she isn't Aria and Space was hinting at not being Glyph. In which case, what role is Space? He could be Aria based off his hints that he is familiar with the Citadel and not human. So why aren't you worried about him?
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Post by seven on Mar 7, 2020 9:52:37 GMT
Guys, I've figured out who Gervaise is. She's Sherlock Holmes
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Post by gervaise21 on Mar 7, 2020 12:37:21 GMT
Guys, I've figured out who Gervaise is. She's Sherlock Holmes Sadly not, though I'd like to be. The thing is he hardly ever gets it wrong but I admit I often do. Which is why I'd really appreciate feedback on my little theories. I'm still puzzled why everyone avoided joining me in voting for Space seeing as he could also be a potentially dangerous role. Even if the person who is Glyph invited him to a party last night, that wouldn't have stopped his partner from acting. If he was the person doing the protecting, he hasn't been that explicit about it, or indicated he trusts the person he protected, and the potential victim of the spies would not know it was him. Alternatively, the protector role protected Space from the spies, in which case it might have been helpful for them to hint as much by saying they had confidence in his innocence. Yet everyone has been silent on the subject, so appearing to confirm that it was Charr who did the protecting. I voted for Space to test out my theory about him being on team spy and at present I still think he is, just not sure about his partner, who could be anyone who refused to vote for him.
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Post by dadithinkimgay on Mar 7, 2020 18:27:45 GMT
I mixed up Aethya’s abilities with Zither’s from Wolf Hunt, sorry Dragon.
Gervaise, I’ll vote Space with you. I also suspect them.
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Post by seven on Mar 7, 2020 20:40:09 GMT
Guys, I've figured out who Gervaise is. She's Sherlock Holmes Sadly not, though I'd like to be. The thing is he hardly ever gets it wrong but I admit I often do. Which is why I'd really appreciate feedback on my little theories. I think you're great at it, you obviously put a lot of thought into every aspect. And no this isn't related to the game or sucking up for a vote change Note to self - channel Sherlock Holmes next time, instead of Oprah 😂
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