[Day/Night Game] Trouble on the Citadel - round "LE Part 2: Why Cerberus Is Right For You"

As I understand it, Conrad is neutral and assumes the alignment of the person, he worships. I was Conrad last round, worshipped gerva, who was a hero, so I was a hero too. So even if Conrad is evil, then there still must be a spy, whom he worships.
I hope, I got that right.

This is a possibility because as you say, based off the answers given, certain people can only be one role.

Space - Can only be Conrad a neutral role whose alignment is determined by the person he is copying. If true then we know the following. He wasn't copying Catilina because no one has thrown any parties since Glyph was eliminated. He wasn't copying Fylimar because he voted for her. He wasn't copying Owl because he voted for her. He isn't copying Dragon because he is voting for her. I assume he wasn't copying me, although I'm not quite sure how that works if he was. Would he then be able to open up the same communication channel as I used or would he simply not have an ability to use? He may have been copying Vella and has yet to use their ability (in which case he is good).   Or he could have copied OG - also good. Otherwise he is copying either Seven, Arcadia or Regack, so the odds are 2:1 he is copying an evil role. However, until the person he is copying is eliminated, he is less of a concern than a spy or Morinth.

Owl - Can only be Kal'Reager - So could be good or evil. Can't harm the heroes at night when evil but can protect a spy from elimination. However, it seems doubtful there are any good roles left that could do this anyway.

Seven - Could be Aria or Morinth. Whilst she has been hinting heavily at Aria, we meet Morinth on Omega and she might well know certain secrets too, so technically not lying.



As I explain above, if people have been telling the truth (near enough) then either you or Seven could be Morinth.

Dadi was also allowed a brief moment of lucidity after the tie-breaker was known and in any case it was pretty clear that the hidden vote had to have been for either you or Seven because anything else would either have created a 3-way tie or broken the tie-breaker, assuming that Dadi didn't vote for me, Arcadia or Regack, which would mean a random vote rather than based off specific information, which Dadi seemed to be hinting at. So one of you has to be evil if that is the case.

Anyway, we need an alternative from you, Dragon. Who are you going to vote for?

That also leaves seven.

Keep in mind that dadi only gets a clue about another spy role, not their identity. I have clues in common with other players, so whatever clue he got would be applicable to several roles, not just mine. If dadi had voted for me, that doesn't mean he was told I'm a spy (that's not how his ability works), it just means he got a clue that he interpreted as pointing to whatever role he believes I have. But as I said, my role has clues in common with other roles.

And even so, there is still the same problem I explained already: if you believe I'm a spy, then you must also believe that Morinth is voting for a spy, which would either result directly in her losing the game, or would get her one step closer to losing. That is not a rational course of action for Morinth. That ought to put some doubt in your mind as to my guilt, if you're honest with yourself.

And no, I'm not home yet, so you'll have to wait longer for me to decide who to vote for

Am I that forgettable to you ?!

You know flattery will get you everywhere, right?

All I know is, pela is sitting there laughing at us

As long as you acknowledge that I am Robin Hood in that scenario

I agree with all your logic up to this point. What makes you think Morinth knows who the spy is or isn't?

This makes a lot of sense logically except we have never really decided how many spies are still in play. I suggested two, plus Morinth, in an earlier post and no one contradicted me at the time, although there has been a general assumption ever since that there is only one spy left to find.

Now if Morinth did have extra information that someone else is the spy even if they thought you might be as well that would be worth the risk because they know the other person would still be active. Or they could have simply agreed with me that there are two spies left regardless of any additional information.

From my PoV, there were two attacks in the night with the one on me successful but the other foiled. Now there are only a few roles that can attack in the night as spies and since it seem likely Dr Michel's is good this game, that leaves Nyreen and Aria. I am hopeful that only one of these present/evil this game but it does mean that the only people who could have attacked based off the clues given are you and Seven. By your own logic you cannot be Morinth or you would be voting for a potential ally, so that would mean either Owl or Space have been lying and they are Morinth and you could be evil Nyreen.

I was crunching a few figures and it seems to me that the key person in all this is in fact Space. If he is Conrad and is shadowing a good role, then even if we erroneously vote off you as a hero then we still stand a chance as evil Aria must have used her ability last night and so the spies will only be able to make one night elimination. If you are good and Space is Conrad, that would mean there would only one spy left and Morinth as against two surviving heroes and Space.

If Space is shadowing an evil role or lied in his clues (so is evil anyway - why would a hero pretend to be Conrad?) then we are pretty much sunk anyway if we vote off a hero, whether that hero is you or Seven.

Of course, whether the votes are left on you or switched to Seven, if Aria didn't use her ability last night then she could opt to sway all the votes where she wants to regardless.