[Day/Night Game] Trouble on the Citadel - round "LE Part 2: Why Cerberus Is Right For You"

Oh, God, we voted out Liara

I think whoever is Garrus has their work cut out for them tonight.

She isn't supposed to be able to. Liara is only supposed to figure out spy/not spy. I'm going to post a list of clarifications for all the roles so we're all on the same page.

Tittus, if you were really "good" Liara, why in the world wouldn't you explain yourself when you knew you were on the chopping block?? There was absolutely no benefit to being so vague. You could have saved yourself, and taught us something about one of the other players in the process. Instead, we can't even tell who you investigated! Gervaise or adonniel? You voted for both, and yet any information you found out, you would have had right away, as soon as the day round began. If you investigated gervaise and felt the need to vote for them, why then switch your vote and suspicions to adonniel? If you investigated adonniel and felt she was guilty, then why initially vote for gervaise? None of your behavior makes any sense for a good guy Liara.

I'm really sorry, we lost Liara

But I have to agree with above posts, I was confused as hell in the end.

Alright heroes, we have to do better next round, nothing is lost yet

Below are the role descriptions copied from the first post. Clarifications are added in bold blue text.


Cerberus Agents
There are 2-4 Cerberus agents per game. Each night, you will work together to attempt to indoctrinate one other player. Indoctrinated players are removed from the game (unless saved by Miranda), except for indoctrinated EDI. No clarification needed, I think?


Garrus Vakarian
The Vigilante. Once per game, you may choose to shoot someone during the night cycle. This will eliminate that player from the game. Should you and Javik use your ability on the same night, Javik's will take precedence and you will get to re-use your ability on a different night.
Miranda can save people from Garrus, since I believe this came up in a previous round. Whether hero or Cerberus, Garrus can shoot whoever he wants, though for Cerberus Garrus, it would be best to get permission from other agents before eliminating them


Liara T'Soni
The Shadowbroker. Each night, you may research one player to determine whether or not they are a Cerberus operative. You may use your findings to provide clues to the other players, but you may not explicitly state anything you have found out. Should Javik be indoctrinated or arrested, you will be so heartbroken at losing your specimen that you skip using your special power the next night.
Liara does NOT learn actual roles, just Cerberus agent/not Cerberus agent. Liara will not be able to identify an indoctrinated EDI, since indoctrinated EDI is not a Cerberus agent.


Javik
The Last Living Prothean. Once per game during the night cycle, Javik may choose to complain to the crew about how primitive this cycle is. The Cerberus agents get so drunk out of sheer boredom that they pass out and fail to indoctrinate anyone that night. All other nighttime abilities will be neutralized that night as well. However, the next night, the Cerberus agents will make up for lost time by claiming two victims. (Other roles do NOT get an extra chance to use their ability.) Should you be indoctrinated or arrested, Liara will be so depressed that she will forgo using her special power the next night.
Since Javik prevents night roles from being used, if Miranda, Garrus, or Kasumi had messaged the GM to use their ability, they will instead be able to use their ability another night.


Miranda Lawson
The Lazarus Project Scientist. Once per game, you may choose to bring back the role indoctrinated by Cerberus eliminated that night. You will not be told which player you are saving. You can use this ability to save yourself. Should you and Javik use your ability on the same night, Javik's will take precedence and you will get to re-use your ability on a different night. Miranda can save people from Garrus, since I believe this came up in a previous round.  


Wrex
The Krogan Warlord. Should you be arrested during the day, you will enter a blood rage and start a brawl with any other player of your choice. You will both be arrested and eliminated from the game.
 No clarification needed, I think?


Diana Allers
The Reporter. Each night, you will be provided with a randomly-selected player name (not your own). Because your viewers demand news, you must keep the action alive for them. Throughout the following day cycle, you will be required to try to convince other players to vote to eliminate the randomly-selected player. You must also vote for that player's elimination during voting.
 No clarification needed, I think?


EDI
The Normandy's AI. Should Cerberus attempt to indoctrinate you, you will not be eliminated from the game. Instead, you will be told the identities of the Cerberus agents and must work to protect them from player wrath during the day. You may not vote for either Cerberus agent during the day cycle once indoctrinated. Indoctrinated EDI wins with the Cerberus agents, once all other players are eliminated.
Indoctrinated EDI (who begins the game as a hero) is not a Cerberus agent, and will not be identified as such by Liara, since she cannot indoctrinate anyone on her own: once all agents are caught, indoctrinated EDI loses even if she is still in play. She does not join the Cerberus agent PM thread either. However, an "evil" EDI who is one of the Cerberus agents from the beginning of the game functions like any other Cerberus agent.


Tali'Zorah vas Normandy
The Quarian Engineer. You will be given Legion's identity at the start of the game. (He will NOT know your identity.) For the first two day cycles, you may not vote to eliminate the same player that Legion votes for, as long as you have not run out of vote changes.
 I think we discussed that Tali probably can't be an agent since then she would know Legion's identity, but I have no idea whether that even came up this round.


Legion
The Geth Platform. It may take you some time to build a consensus, but once you do, your word is convincing. Once per game, you may change all votes for elimination to the player of your choice. PM the game master to activate this ability.
 No clarification needed, I think?


Kaidan Alenko/Ashley Williams
The Virmire Survivor. The player assigned to this role gets to choose whether to be Kaidan or Ashley. Should you be indoctrinated or killed, others will be so inspired by your bravery that your vote will still carry weight after your death. During voting on the first day cycle after your elimination, you will be allowed to cast a vote to eliminate the next player, just as if you were still in the game. Activate this ability by PMing the game master.
 No clarification needed, I think?



Kasumi Goto
The Enigmatic Thief. Once per game, Kasumi may cloak herself and go snooping at your not-so-friendly local Cerberus office. She will learn the role being attacked by Cerberus that night. If she correctly tells the GM which player has this role, then Kasumi's warning will cause the player to escape indoctrination that night. You cannot save yourself with this ability.
She cannot save a player from Garrus. If Javik activates his ability on the same night that Kasumi does, her ability will be prevented from being used and she will get to use it another night. If she and Miranda both activate theirs and only one player needs saving, then whoever PMed the game master first will use theirs, and the other player will get to use their ability another night.


The Evil Clone
The Cerberus Science Project. Each day, you must impersonate one of the hero roles by giving at least one hint. How subtle the hint is, is up to you. You may choose the same role or change each day. If the hero you are impersonating gets voted off during a day round, the elimination will leave ambiguous whether the clone or the real character was voted off, and you will assume the role (including any special abilities not used, with the caveats below). You will decide whether to continue playing with the heros, or switch sides to help Cerberus. Only the GM will know your choice. An evil clone who is a Cerberus agent from the beginning will function like any other Cerberus agent, and will be able to switch sides to be "good" should they manage to impersonate another role and get that player voted off.

• Evil clone Miranda will only be able to save herself from indoctrination, should she activate her ability on the correct night.
• Evil clone Liara's ability will activate as usual, though she may use it to discover who the Cerberus agents are in order to aid them and lead the heros astray.
• Evil clone Kasumi doesn't get to use Kasumi's special ability. Instead, Evil Kasumi will learn who the Cerberus agents are so that she may aid them.

Thanks for the clarifications, Dragon! I'm still a bit confused with Miranda. So she just says she is activating her power.

Lets say Garrus shoots me, and the spies indoctrinate you. Does Miranda save both? Or does the Gm decide which? Can Miranda actually save a spy from Garrus inadvertently?

Thanks!

And that reminds me, would evil kasumi have a power? Snoop in Liaras office instead?

I'm as confused as everyone else. I was almost a hundred percent sure Tittus was a spy.

If I were to guess,

Liara investigated Gerva last night, but maybe wanted to keep a low profile so she doesn't get killed. That's why Tittus so oddly claimed his vote is 'accidental' when I asked. I sensed something odd in the answer and started suspecting Tittus of being up to no good. Tittus took being dragged to the surface defensively and decided that I'm another spy covering for Gerva, panicked and accused me. This led to a confrontation with me.

Right now Tittus probably thinks we're both spies. BUT, she is yelling for Garrus to shoot me specifically because when she was voting Gerva Liara wasn't in danger, whereas, fighting with me caused her to be voted off. So, I'm certainly getting blamed for it and singled out.

I can certainly understand why Tittus would be mad at me, but I'm not Gerva's accomplice.

I feel that I've explained fairly enough why I thought Tittus was a spy during the voting. It certainly looked that way from my point of view.

I can't really say much beyond, please don't shoot me Garrus. I'm not a spy.

I mean, how would you guys have behaved in my shoes?

I like the coin flip idea. If we go with Indoc gets preference, saving someone from Garrus would never come up.

I'm more suspicious of gervaise because they were Tittus's first vote, but that still leaves me completely baffled as to why he switched to adonniel if gervaise is a known spy. We haven't learned anything useful here, really.

I think we're assuming that Tittus investigated you first, thus his vote for you, but either way the behavior doesn't make sense to me. In any case, I'm far from convinced that you are a spy.

I missed your hint, I think. I'll go back to look for it.

Edit: If this is the hint, then I did see it:

So you aren't Wrex, maybe not Javik. But you could be pretty much anyone else.