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Post by Tilarta on Dec 10, 2017 11:59:54 GMT
I am on my second playthrough of Mass Effect Andromeda. Since I am uncertain if there are additional tasks on H-047c to raise Andromeda viability, I thought I should check with the players in case I missed something. I did the plotline with the Krogan Renegade plotting to attack/destroy Initiative colonies, then the one with the Remnant Tiller activation to provide fuel for the Andromeda fleet. It felt like there should have been more to do, but I couldn't find anything.
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Post by KrrKs on Dec 10, 2017 23:13:30 GMT
Sadly, these missions and Vetra's loyalty mission are all there is to H-047c.
The enemies there don't even respawn at later visits, making it completely pointless to revisit that rock, which i find really disappointing as i like the low gravity effects and view from there.
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Post by bshep on Dec 10, 2017 23:14:05 GMT
There is also Vetra's mission in the former planet.
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Post by Tilarta on Dec 11, 2017 4:50:26 GMT
I did the Loyalty mission first, before the other two.
The only other mission in the area was recovering the SAM node from Ark Natanus and activating the succession of the Turian Pathfinder.
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Post by PillarBiter on Dec 12, 2017 7:11:51 GMT
Well it is a lifeless space rock... How much should there really be to do anyway?
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Post by Tilarta on Dec 14, 2017 6:09:43 GMT
A lifeless space rock that can fuel the entire Andromeda fleet for over 300 years. That alone should make it a priority target for whatever malcontents are floating around.
Plus, there is whoever was employing that Krogan Renegade. Presumably they wouldn't give up just because their lead scientist/expedition leader is taking a space nap.
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Post by Element Zero on Dec 14, 2017 7:27:29 GMT
A lifeless space rock that can fuel the entire Andromeda fleet for over 300 years.That alone should make it a priority target for whatever malcontents are floating around. Plus, there is whoever was employing that Krogan Renegade. Presumably they wouldn't give up just because their lead scientist/expedition leader is taking a space nap. The logistics involved in trying to exploit H-047c make it unlikely that anyone other than the Ai could get a major operation established in the near future. Krex's employer doesn't give up. They get handled by Kadara's leadership. I'm guessing you didn't meet this person. They are identified by info on H-047c. Depending upon whether you've visited Kadara, this might be someone whom Ryder has already met. Honestly, the presence of a tiller facility always seemed a bit strange. Why did the Jardaan have a tiller on this intact planet? It certainly wasn't intended to till soil for He-3 production. It seems awfully convenient that it exists and that the MWers are aware of it. Ignoring this super convenient circumstance, I really enjoy this world. I enjoy the tiller and the progenitor fight. (Full-Auto Seeking Plasma Hesh will destroy that fella in less than 30 seconds, assuming a shooter build. It's the most powerful gun in the game.)
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Post by colfoley on Dec 14, 2017 7:55:34 GMT
I don't see how it would be so much of a stretch. Its likely the Jaarden were using it for similar purposes as the Iniatiative. Mining the fuel and using it as a forward base of operations as they continued their terraforming efforts throughout the cluster.
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Post by Element Zero on Dec 14, 2017 7:58:14 GMT
I don't see how it would be so much of a stretch. Its likely the Jaarden were using it for similar purposes as the Iniatiative. Mining the fuel and using it as a forward base of operations as they continued their terraforming efforts throughout the cluster. The planet was whole and habitable before the scourge. It wouldn't have been a good He-3 source in comparison to many moons or gas giants. I just tell myself it was used during their terraforming efforts. Who am I to question those who terraform clusters?
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Post by colfoley on Dec 14, 2017 8:00:41 GMT
I don't see how it would be so much of a stretch. Its likely the Jaarden were using it for similar purposes as the Iniatiative. Mining the fuel and using it as a forward base of operations as they continued their terraforming efforts throughout the cluster. The planet was whole and habitable before the scourge. It wouldn't have been a good He-3 source. I just tell myself it was used during their terraforming efforts. Who am I to question those who terraform clusters? Would the effort of mining the He-3 make it uninhabitable? I did not recall that in any of the ME lore but then I am hardly an ME lore expert. Unless this is the case I fail to see why a habitable world would make a bad He 3 fuel source.
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Post by Element Zero on Dec 14, 2017 8:06:22 GMT
The planet was whole and habitable before the scourge. It wouldn't have been a good He-3 source. I just tell myself it was used during their terraforming efforts. Who am I to question those who terraform clusters? Would the effort of mining the He-3 make it uninhabitable? I did not recall that in any of the ME lore but then I am hardly an ME lore expert. Unless this is the case I fail to see why a habitable world would make a bad He 3 fuel source. The conditions would be suboptimal for plentiful He-3. Far less radiation reaches the surface of a world protected by a proper magnetic field. Most moons have no such ptotection, so solar winds do their work. Gas giants are the best sources, and are the typical source in ME lore. H-047c becomes a good source after it is split and stripped of its magnetic field. I tell myself they were tilling for some reason beyond my understanding; that it would make sense if I were in the business of terraforming via rem-tech.
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Post by colfoley on Dec 14, 2017 8:07:55 GMT
Would the effort of mining the He-3 make it uninhabitable? I did not recall that in any of the ME lore but then I am hardly an ME lore expert. Unless this is the case I fail to see why a habitable world would make a bad He 3 fuel source. The conditions would be suboptimal for plentiful He-3. Far less radiation reaches the surface of a world protected by a proper magnetic field. Most moons have no such ptotection, so solar winds do their work. Gas giants are the best sources, and are the typical source in ME lore. H-047c becomes a good source after it is split and stripped of its magnetic field. I tell myself they were tilling for some reason beyond my understanding; that it would make sense if I were in the business of terraforming via rem-tech. Ah. That makes a fair bit of sense. Thanks for the explanation.
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Post by Tilarta on Dec 14, 2017 8:10:38 GMT
I think the planet was shattered because the Scourge directly impacted it. It wasn't anything to do with the operation of the Tiller, unless the Scourge was drawn towards the planet by active Remnant technology. The game implies that the Scourge was a weapon intended to destroy Remnant tech.
My theory is that the Tiller was installed on the fragment that survived. It might have even been the reason it survived, it was shielding that piece as best it could.
In any case, the Krogan Renegade might not have been able to get the Tiller operational, but retaking the planet fragment after a Pathfinder already activated the Tiller is much easier. Which would have been a reason to justify the enemy respawns, now the Tiller is generating fuel, it's drawing the attention of everyone who would like to use the resource readily available for nefarious purposes.
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Post by Element Zero on Dec 14, 2017 8:19:42 GMT
I think the planet was shattered because the Scourge directly impacted it. It wasn't anything to do with the operation of the Tiller, unless the Scourge was drawn towards the planet by active Remnant technology. The game implies that the Scourge was a weapon intended to destroy Remnant tech. My theory is that the Tiller was installed on the fragment that survived. It might have even been the reason it survived, it was shielding that piece as best it could. In any case, the Krogan Renegade might not have been able to get the Tiller operational, but retaking the planet fragment after a Pathfinder already activated the Tiller is much easier. Which would have been a reason to justify the enemy respawns, now the Tiller is generating fuel, it's drawing the attention of everyone who would like to use the resource readily available for nefarious purposes. The Scourge is outright stated to have destroyed the planet. That's not really a question. It's true that can't really say when the tiller was constructed. That said, existing evidence suggests that the deployment of the scourge resulted in a rapid retreat and abandonment of existing facilities. It seems unlikely that a massive underground project would or could be safely undertaken at that time. Moreover, the planet still would've been a poor source of He-3 in comparison to most any gas giant. It was centuries of post-Scourge exposure to high energy cosmic radiation that altered it. I think the only logical explanation is that the tiller was built for some other purpose. It's also seemingly part of a vault network, so it's not like it exists in isolation. Other worlds would presumably have dormant tillers within their vault networks. I'm pretty sure mention is made of securing and protecting the planet after the mission. Krex's crew were small time and completely neutralized, so they'd not be any further threat. They only got as far as they did by staying off the radar of Sloane and the Ai.
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