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Post by cooldude on Jan 22, 2017 16:13:10 GMT
I don't know about the inquisition, but it should not be the end of the inquisitors story. the inquisitor had a profound impact on the main villains outlook on life, and having another character face Solas would not be as powerful as having the Inquisitor face him, considering the inquisitor became his best-friend, love of his life, or most respected enemy.
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Jan 22, 2017 18:41:23 GMT
I know some people want the Inquisitor to get a new limb somehow, but I don't find that likely. It seems clear to me that Bioware took their arm for the express purpose of having a reason to pull them from the front lines and justify a new character. And I haven't heard a new arm justification yet that wouldn't come across as contrived. However, I like the idea of a dual protagonist. Most of the time we would be playing as the new PC, but we would get a handful of missions with the Inquisitor, focusing on stealth, puzzles, dialogue and preferably with access to a war table where we could make decision that affect the new protagonist's play, perhaps setting some sidequests for them. Luckily, Patrick Weekes confirmed that the removal of the arm was not done to prevent the Inquisitor from continuing, saying "there are many amputee heroes". Instead he said it was done so it would be a symbol that the Inquisitor's days of sealing Rifts is over. Good thing to, since if they removed the arm just so they can say the Inquisitor can't be a hero anymore they would have lost my business since that is absolutely disgusting. As for a new arm justification that isn't contrived, again I point to real life history as justification. In our history we have had some people continue with a missing arm, like Gottfried "Götz" von Berlichingen Gotz also known as Götz of the Iron Hand. He was a knight, mercenary, and poet who lost his right arm in 1504 and yet with a prosthetic limb he was able to continue fighting and writing for decades to come. His prosthetic limb was capable enough to let him hold a shield, grip reigns of a horse, and even hold a quill and write. So if we were able to create this in our actual history, I see no reason to think Thedas cannot pull off at least the same if not more due to the engineering prowess of Dwarves and Qunari as well as of course magic.
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Post by Heimdall on Jan 23, 2017 14:58:32 GMT
I know some people want the Inquisitor to get a new limb somehow, but I don't find that likely. It seems clear to me that Bioware took their arm for the express purpose of having a reason to pull them from the front lines and justify a new character. And I haven't heard a new arm justification yet that wouldn't come across as contrived. However, I like the idea of a dual protagonist. Most of the time we would be playing as the new PC, but we would get a handful of missions with the Inquisitor, focusing on stealth, puzzles, dialogue and preferably with access to a war table where we could make decision that affect the new protagonist's play, perhaps setting some sidequests for them. Luckily, Patrick Weekes confirmed that the removal of the arm was not done to prevent the Inquisitor from continuing, saying "there are many amputee heroes". Instead he said it was done so it would be a symbol that the Inquisitor's days of sealing Rifts is over. Good thing to, since if they removed the arm just so they can say the Inquisitor can't be a hero anymore they would have lost my business since that is absolutely disgusting. I never said they wouldn't be a hero, I said that they would be removed from the front lines of, yes, rift sealing and adventuring. I for one am actually quite intrigued by the possibility of a less combat focused hero. Fair enough, I still think a magical prosthesis as good as a flesh and blood hand would be contrived and go beyond what we've seen Thedas' magical engineering to be capable of, not to mention undermine the weight of losing the arm in the first place. They could go in that direction, but it's not my preference.
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Post by AGECCR on Jan 23, 2017 18:18:08 GMT
I'm gonna say both. It wraps up the Inquisitor's story as the main character but extends it as a supporting character in the next game.
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Post by lobselvith8 on Jan 23, 2017 23:46:10 GMT
Luckily, Patrick Weekes confirmed that the removal of the arm was not done to prevent the Inquisitor from continuing, saying "there are many amputee heroes". Instead he said it was done so it would be a symbol that the Inquisitor's days of sealing Rifts is over. Good thing to, since if they removed the arm just so they can say the Inquisitor can't be a hero anymore they would have lost my business since that is absolutely disgusting. I never said they wouldn't be a hero, I said that they would be removed from the front lines of, yes, rift sealing and adventuring. I for one am actually quite intrigued by the possibility of a less combat focused hero. I can understand the appeal of a hero who goes from the front lines to delegating that responsibility to another. I think the main problem would be if the Inquisitor becomes an NPC, as opposed to someone we have some degree of control over, since you can easily run the risk of having a character who acts OOC to how the player played them. That's something that happened with Hawke in Inquisition, where he (or she) said things that some fans felt made no sense for their respective characters, such as his comments about blood magic and Wardens. With the Inquisitor as a dwarf, a qunari, an elf, or a human, that's something that can more easily happen if the Inquisitor becomes an NPC.
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Post by Heimdall on Jan 23, 2017 23:49:11 GMT
I never said they wouldn't be a hero, I said that they would be removed from the front lines of, yes, rift sealing and adventuring. I for one am actually quite intrigued by the possibility of a less combat focused hero. I can understand the appeal of a hero who goes from the front lines to delegating that responsibility to another. I think the main problem would be if the Inquisitor becomes an NPC, as opposed to someone we have some degree of control over, since you can easily run the risk of having a character who acts OOC to how the player played them. That's something that happened with Hawke in Inquisition, where he (or she) said things that some fans felt made no sense for their respective characters, such as his comments about blood magic and Wardens. With the Inquisitor as a dwarf, a qunari, an elf, or a human, that's something that can more easily happen if the Inquisitor becomes an NPC. All true, and it's why my preferred scenario for DA4 involves a dual protagonist setup.
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Post by merlin217 on Feb 15, 2017 8:37:44 GMT
you all know deep inside that while da4 will have a new hero, the final confrontation with inquisitor and solas will be paid dlc. Or maybe the inquisitor will be paid DLC advisor? Or preorder bonus? i had to joke!! i am really intrigued by the dragon age universe since origins! Nah Solas will be the great villain in DA6. Until then every game has a DLC that hints at where he's been this whole game.
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Post by merlin217 on Feb 15, 2017 8:49:32 GMT
I can understand the appeal of a hero who goes from the front lines to delegating that responsibility to another. I think the main problem would be if the Inquisitor becomes an NPC, as opposed to someone we have some degree of control over, since you can easily run the risk of having a character who acts OOC to how the player played them. That's something that happened with Hawke in Inquisition, where he (or she) said things that some fans felt made no sense for their respective characters, such as his comments about blood magic and Wardens. With the Inquisitor as a dwarf, a qunari, an elf, or a human, that's something that can more easily happen if the Inquisitor becomes an NPC. All true, and it's why my preferred scenario for DA4 involves a dual protagonist setup. How likely do you think it'll happen though? They'll probably think that although Inquisitor acting OOC might be a major concern, it will have to be a necessary evil to establish a new hero for the next game. And this is the more cost-effective way to do it.
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Post by Heimdall on Feb 15, 2017 12:12:19 GMT
All true, and it's why my preferred scenario for DA4 involves a dual protagonist setup. How likely do you think it'll happen though? They'll probably think that although Inquisitor acting OOC might be a major concern, it will have to be a necessary evil to establish a new hero for the next game. And this is the more cost-effective way to do it. I think there's a decent possibility. Bioware knows people weren't overly pleased with how Hawks was handled and they set Trespasser up to indicate the Inquisitor will still be a big part of fighting Solas. That being said, I expect the new PC will receive the lion's share of the gameplay time.
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Feb 16, 2017 1:30:45 GMT
you all know deep inside that while da4 will have a new hero, the final confrontation with inquisitor and solas will be paid dlc. Or maybe the inquisitor will be paid DLC advisor? Or preorder bonus? i had to joke!! i am really intrigued by the dragon age universe since origins! Nah Solas will be the great villain in DA6. Until then every game has a DLC that hints at where he's been this whole game. Patrick Weekes stated that the next Dragon Age game will finish the Solas story. They aren't going to wait 3 more games before doing that.
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Post by Obsidian Gryphon on Feb 16, 2017 1:36:07 GMT
Nah Solas will be the great villain in DA6. Until then every game has a DLC that hints at where he's been this whole game. Patrick Weekes stated that the next Dragon Age game will finish the Solas story. They aren't going to wait 3 more games before doing that. Oh good! That's a relief. *eagerly awaits the return of the world of Thedas / Inq*
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Post by merlin217 on Feb 16, 2017 10:08:07 GMT
Nah Solas will be the great villain in DA6. Until then every game has a DLC that hints at where he's been this whole game. Patrick Weekes stated that the next Dragon Age game will finish the Solas story. They aren't going to wait 3 more games before doing that. AH... that's good to know! Just the Old God child thing made me suspect that they might drag it out.
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Post by LadyCass on Feb 17, 2017 13:30:37 GMT
If I was deciding things, after Trespasser upping the stakes and preparing the ground for an arc, I would absolutely make the next two games part of a trilogy, starring the Inquisitor, the story beats are set up beautifully.
The loss of the Inq's arm gives a reason to start levelling from the bottom again, and prosthetics don't need to be fully functional to be usable in combat. Some classes don't even really need two arms (mage). It gives them a lot of scope to do stories on disabled struggles, something that has been missing from their inclusivity stable for a while.
I would also use the justification of "Solas knows us too well" to recruit new companions for the effort. Previous romances and friendships makes this a little tricky but doable. I married Cullen but regretted it (yeah, I know), so that would be interesting for me personally.
I think its perfectly doable, and even recommended. Otherwise, you're essentially squandering a fantastic setup for an arbitrary rule.
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Post by wickedcool on Feb 17, 2017 16:01:21 GMT
Inquisitors story is over
-they are not going to start the game at anything other than level 1 so unless they pull a mass effect rebirth -4 voice actors for cameo-doubtful -multiple endings for quizzys fate including 1 where they leave with sera -strongly hinted that people other than quizzy need to take on solas
Writers brought back hawke as it was clear they wanted another dlc but that dlc got shelved. This time they seem happy that dai was done.
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Post by Link"Guess"ski on Feb 19, 2017 1:05:23 GMT
It determined what Cameo the Divine or the Inquisitor gets in DA4.
DA has a 5-game plan. I'm not sure if DA2 was part of that since the story of Kirkwall was originally targeted as an expansion like Awakening but it became a thing of its own.
I think given where we ended up after DA:I we seem to be going towards a definitive denoument for the setting of Dragon Age that deals with the origins of the setting and deconstructing faith, the elven lore and the maker and Solas's plan definitively sets these things in motion.
I would not be surprised after we resolve our ordeal with Solas in DA4 (whoever we even are in that game) that it will leave room for a final installment. I felt like I really understood the "point" of Dragon Age in Inquisition that I hadn't realized before and now I'm just interested to see where BioWare takes that and see if I was right or wrong about my ideas.
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Post by neocodex and 23 others on Feb 21, 2017 8:38:08 GMT
I'm done with the Inquisition and don't ever want to hear about Inquisitor again. The most boring and lifeless character ever. They should have wrapped it up, there's no point for them sticking around and the whole Void Wolf thing was unnecessary. Could not care about his story any less. They should never have given us the option to extend the story imho. We've seen enough of this. Good riddance!
P.S.: the game was fine overall, but I really hope they spare us with more of the Inquisition. This is not Sheppard. For this time, we actually want something new. If anything, Hawke was the most closest to something like Sheppard, and I was really interested to see more of him in DA:I, but there was very little to see.
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