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Post by NeverlandHunter on Aug 17, 2017 3:56:11 GMT
So, here's a question for this lovely thread group: We all here love Solas (unless you're just viewing this thread out of some other interest, in which case, hi!). We've shed many a fan tear over his tragic relationship with our Lavellans. But. Buuuut. If you, through the powers that be and imagination, were transported to Thedas during the Inquisition timeline and this was a non-Lavellan play through (if you have one) and this setting was less game-y than the actual game (no you can't jump onto his desk from the library or Leliana's abode)-- do you think you could or would be compatible with Solas like your Inquisitor creation is? Oh fun! But no, not even close even though I find him interesting and awesome, he'd be pissed at me 24/7 for not wanting to get hopelessly lost the fade, being freaked out with spirits and having no interest in touching anything magic with a 10 foot pole, since I'm not a badass rouge assasin I doubt I'd be as ok with Solas interests as my Lavellan was, in fact if it was me in DAI I'd probably be a backstage strategist who romanced Cassandra or Cullen and if at all have a polite but distant relationship with Solas where I'm fascinated by him and all his knowledge but mostly stay out of his way LOL Er, I think my time spent in the Inquisition would be loveless. I can't flirt with people I'm even slightly intimidated by or awkward around. So nope to Cassandra, to Josephine, to Cullen, and to Bull. Blackwall, I would not be attracted to and same for Solas. Sera would never cross my mind as someone to possibly be interested in, in that way. And Dorian would not be interested in me, in that way  I'd probably be incapable of flirting with him, anyway. I think, saying that Andrastian views on magic and spirits didn't completely close me off to them, I would be interested in those subjects. So, I think I'd want to talk to Solas. And his general knowledge and mannerisms would probably have me wanting to listen to him, regardless. |
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Post by NeverlandHunter on Aug 17, 2017 4:00:05 GMT
So, here's a question for this lovely thread group: We all here love Solas (unless you're just viewing this thread out of some other interest, in which case, hi!). We've shed many a fan tear over his tragic relationship with our Lavellans. But. Buuuut. If you, through the powers that be and imagination, were transported to Thedas during the Inquisition timeline and this was a non-Lavellan play through (if you have one) and this setting was less game-y than the actual game (no you can't jump onto his desk from the library or Leliana's abode)-- do you think you could or would be compatible with Solas like your Inquisitor creation is? If we're assuming I'd know about DA when I was dropped in, I'd definitely try to befriend Solas. It might work. I'm told I'm a good listener and people do tend to open up to me irl, so maybe I could get a friendship going. I'd try to involve him in group activities. I'd try to make sure we got to Wisdom in time. I'd also hang out in his study and talk his ear off. I'd definitely ask him a billion questions. I'm banking on this amusing more than annoying him. I'm human, though, and Solas apparently reacts with disapproval to some questions humans ask him whereas he approves of the same question when an elf asks it, so... it'd be a possible uphill battle. But I know I'd end up being bffs with Cole cus I love that kid, and I imagine that would earn me some leeway. Maybe. lol I'd definitely try to worm my way past his defenses so he has one more connection to the world and one more reason to not tear down the world. I'd also try to work on finding the compromise I hope my Lavellan does and get the "Just this once, everybody lives!" ending. >_> Compatible in a romantic way, like my Lavellan? I mean, technically I guess I would be cus my Lavellan basically made the decisions I felt were right in the situation when I played her, so you could say she and I are of the same mind. But, if you have full knowledge of what's coming, you'd honestly have to be a bit nuts to willingly go down that road, imo. Friends with that baggage I can handle. Boyfriends? No, not appealing. I'll walk a character through that kind of story and root for them to succeed, but I won't take that kinda risk myself if I know its there. I was thinking more about you existing in that world, no prior knowledge of the events that will happen. I agree, it would not be appealing, ie it would be insane, to start a romantic relationship with Solas knowing where it would lead. |
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Post by cmoe on Aug 17, 2017 4:01:23 GMT
So, here's a question for this lovely thread group: We all here love Solas (unless you're just viewing this thread out of some other interest, in which case, hi!). We've shed many a fan tear over his tragic relationship with our Lavellans. But. Buuuut. If you, through the powers that be and imagination, were transported to Thedas during the Inquisition timeline and this was a non-Lavellan play through (if you have one) and this setting was less game-y than the actual game (no you can't jump onto his desk from the library or Leliana's abode)-- do you think you could or would be compatible with Solas like your Inquisitor creation is? Oh fun! But no, not even close even though I find him interesting and awesome, he'd be pissed at me 24/7 for not wanting to get hopelessly lost the fade, being freaked out with spirits and having no interest in touching anything magic with a 10 foot pole, since I'm not a badass rouge assasin I doubt I'd be as ok with Solas interests as my Lavellan was, in fact if it was me in DAI I'd probably be a backstage strategist who romanced Cassandra or Cullen and if at all have a polite but distant relationship with Solas where I'm fascinated by him and all his knowledge but mostly stay out of his way LOL I think I would have the same reaction to spirits and magic. I like to think I would love it, but probably not so much in reality. I am generally an inquisitive person, so I may get along fairly well with Solas anyway. Not to mention I could just listen to his voice for hours. And I'm a bit embarrassed to admit this now, but I was a closet nerd back in pre-Inquisition times and I had some ignorant assumptions about what most Dragon Age fans would be. I remember specifically being surprised by the amount of women that played and obsessed over DA, the ages of the people on the forums (I often felt too old to play video games and love video games like I did before I found the forums where I realized I was one of the younger forum users), and how close and familiar the community was (which overwhelmed me at first). I was surprised to find out there were people my age and even older on these forums. Dragon Age seems to pull in a wide variety of fans. |
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Post by AlleluiaElizabeth on Aug 17, 2017 4:08:14 GMT
If we're assuming I'd know about DA when I was dropped in, I'd definitely try to befriend Solas. It might work. I'm told I'm a good listener and people do tend to open up to me irl, so maybe I could get a friendship going. I'd try to involve him in group activities. I'd try to make sure we got to Wisdom in time. I'd also hang out in his study and talk his ear off. I'd definitely ask him a billion questions. I'm banking on this amusing more than annoying him. I'm human, though, and Solas apparently reacts with disapproval to some questions humans ask him whereas he approves of the same question when an elf asks it, so... it'd be a possible uphill battle. But I know I'd end up being bffs with Cole cus I love that kid, and I imagine that would earn me some leeway. Maybe. lol I'd definitely try to worm my way past his defenses so he has one more connection to the world and one more reason to not tear down the world. I'd also try to work on finding the compromise I hope my Lavellan does and get the "Just this once, everybody lives!" ending. >_> Compatible in a romantic way, like my Lavellan? I mean, technically I guess I would be cus my Lavellan basically made the decisions I felt were right in the situation when I played her, so you could say she and I are of the same mind. But, if you have full knowledge of what's coming, you'd honestly have to be a bit nuts to willingly go down that road, imo. Friends with that baggage I can handle. Boyfriends? No, not appealing. I'll walk a character through that kind of story and root for them to succeed, but I won't take that kinda risk myself if I know its there. I was thinking more about you existing in that world, no prior knowledge of the events that will happen. I agree, it would not be appealing, ie it would be insane, to start a romantic relationship with Solas knowing where it would lead. .... Well, in that case, I'd probably end up crushing on the guy, honestly. XD His personality and smarts are appealing to me. I'd basically be Josephine when she talks about how charming she finds his stories, but I'd have more actual time on my hands to go hang out with him than she does. At least it wouldn't go anywhere beyond that cus I'm painfully shy when it comes to letting men I like know I like them, and he's apparently not into humans? XD So, I'd still try to be his friend, but I'd dodge that bullet. I'd just end up feeling betrayed in the end and like... maybe yelling at him for being an idiot and threatening the world. Or something. |
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Post by morir_a_solas on Aug 17, 2017 4:24:52 GMT
I was thinking more about you existing in that world, no prior knowledge of the events that will happen. I agree, it would not be appealing, ie it would be insane, to start a romantic relationship with Solas knowing where it would lead. .... Well, in that case, I'd probably end up crushing on the guy, honestly. XD His personality and smarts are appealing to me. I'd basically be Josephine when she talks about how charming she finds his stories, but I'd have more actual time on my hands to go hang out with him than she does. At least it wouldn't go anywhere beyond that cus I'm painfully shy when it comes to letting men I like know I like them, and he's apparently not into humans? XD So, I'd still try to be his friend, but I'd dodge that bullet. I'd just end up feeling betrayed in the end and like... maybe yelling at him for being an idiot and threatening the world. Or something. LOL yeah we'd all probably end up crushing on him only to find out he's not into humans, there's just not winning with this egg!!! Hahaha |
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Post by Iddy on Aug 18, 2017 18:47:34 GMT
So I was browsing Hellsing related stuff when I came across this:  I wonder where the multi eyed dog/wolf thing comes from. Neither Hellsing's author or DA's team came up with that on their own. |
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Post by AlleluiaElizabeth on Aug 19, 2017 0:53:43 GMT
Well, Cerberus had six eyes. Technically distributed across three heads, but still.
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Post by fylimar on Aug 19, 2017 22:21:49 GMT
So, here's a question for this lovely thread group: We all here love Solas (unless you're just viewing this thread out of some other interest, in which case, hi!). We've shed many a fan tear over his tragic relationship with our Lavellans. But. Buuuut. If you, through the powers that be and imagination, were transported to Thedas during the Inquisition timeline and this was a non-Lavellan play through (if you have one) and this setting was less game-y than the actual game (no you can't jump onto his desk from the library or Leliana's abode)-- do you think you could or would be compatible with Solas like your Inquisitor creation is? Since I'm one of the people that are here more out of interest than being a Solas fangirl (don't get me wrong, I like Solas, I like all companions in DAI, I just like some of the others more and I really don't get the romance, which I'm playing at the moment for the first time), I would probably find what he has to say interesting and since he is generally easygoing, I probably would like him. I don't have a crush on him now and I probably wouldn't have one, if I get transported to Thedas (my crush goes to Varric always, even if it's one-sided  ) I would be shocked to discover what he has done (more than him being Fen'Harel, since that would be nothing but a name, if I came to Thedas without the game knowledge) and I would probably be less forgiving than some of my inquis (they at least try to reason with him) |
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Post by midnight tea on Aug 20, 2017 1:03:34 GMT
Interesting... Mike Laidlaw just went on an interesting rant on his Twitter, concerning Warhammer 40K: Mike Laidlaw @mike_Laidlaw
Okay, real talk: The newest edition of WH40K straight up says "THIS UNIVERSE IS BAD." That is a good thing.
Not in those words, but basically "Give up on human decency and common good" style rhetoric.
Why I think that's good is that too many young men get too excited about the brutality of the WH40K world. And there's a very good reason: They all think they will be Space Marines. They will all get to be the crusading heroes.
But even then, Marines - for all that they are superhuman - are disposable cogs in an uncaring machine.
And that's the freaking point! The WH40K universe is not a good view of humanity. It is a crushing, ignorant, terrible dystopia.
Where change, progress, tolerance, and individuality are all repeatedly and continually crushed, and despite a remarkably efficient system for doing just that, the Imperium is failing. Slowly, inexorably collapsing in on itself.
And that's the lesson: no one in 40K is good. No one is capable of building. I'm bringing this, because not that long ago, someone asked, what what happens after DAI when we're 10,000 in-fiction years in the future and things are as they are in Dragon Age, and he responded with this: Mike Laidlaw @mike_LaidlawYou all wanted to go to the Imperium so badly....  Soooo... is this sort of an implicit argument for the removal of the Veil? If not that, it certainly implies that if the status quo won't change, Thedas awaits a pretty bleak future. |
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Post by NeverlandHunter on Aug 20, 2017 1:57:45 GMT
Interesting... Mike Laidlaw just went on an interesting rant on his Twitter, concerning Warhammer 40K: Mike Laidlaw @mike_Laidlaw
Okay, real talk: The newest edition of WH40K straight up says "THIS UNIVERSE IS BAD." That is a good thing.
Not in those words, but basically "Give up on human decency and common good" style rhetoric.
Why I think that's good is that too many young men get too excited about the brutality of the WH40K world. And there's a very good reason: They all think they will be Space Marines. They will all get to be the crusading heroes.
But even then, Marines - for all that they are superhuman - are disposable cogs in an uncaring machine.
And that's the freaking point! The WH40K universe is not a good view of humanity. It is a crushing, ignorant, terrible dystopia.
Where change, progress, tolerance, and individuality are all repeatedly and continually crushed, and despite a remarkably efficient system for doing just that, the Imperium is failing. Slowly, inexorably collapsing in on itself.
And that's the lesson: no one in 40K is good. No one is capable of building. I'm bringing this, because not that long ago, someone asked, what what happens after DAI when we're 10,000 in-fiction years in the future and things are as they are in Dragon Age, and he responded with this: Mike Laidlaw @mike_LaidlawYou all wanted to go to the Imperium so badly.... Soooo... is this sort of an implicit argument for the removal of the Veil? If not that, it certainly implies that if the status quo won't change, Thedas awaits a pretty bleak future. You know, I actually have no idea what Warhammer 40k is (it sounds vaguely familiar, perhaps something that's been mentioned in the thread before), but you seemed so enthusiastic you deserved a like! |
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Post by midnight tea on Aug 20, 2017 2:02:25 GMT
You know, I actually have no idea what Warhammer 40k is (it sounds vaguely familiar, perhaps something that's been mentioned in the thread before), but you seemed so enthusiastic you deserved a like! ^^; WH40K isn't really that important, as what the DA Creative Director implies through it in relation to Dragon Age universe or its direction. |
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Post by NeverlandHunter on Aug 20, 2017 2:13:31 GMT
^^; WH40K isn't really that important, as what the DA Creative Director implies through it in relation to Dragon Age universe or its direction. Yeah, I don't want to go to the Imperium that badly. |
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Post by Solas on Aug 20, 2017 6:40:31 GMT
so rip Andromeda-
hence now I wonder, what are you guys top .. Four hopes for DA4? Lets say one bullet point can be Solas-Lavellan romance related (cuz that's inevitable like the tide in the qun 😂)
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Post by Elessara on Aug 20, 2017 11:31:42 GMT
so rip Andromeda- hence now I wonder, what are you guys top .. Four hopes for DA4? Lets say one bullet point can be Solas-Lavellan romance related (cuz that's inevitable like the tide in the qun 😂) Ugh, I don't even want to talk about MEA. I actually really enjoyed the game and the story, even for all the faults. I also really liked the VAs for both female and male Ryders (I didn't much like Mark Meer as Shepard). And there were so many lose ends! And dammit now I'm talking about MEA! *shakes fist at Threaddad* At least the DA team hasn't let me down like the ME team ... yet. |
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Post by NeverlandHunter on Aug 20, 2017 11:49:04 GMT
so rip Andromeda- hence now I wonder, what are you guys top .. Four hopes for DA4? Lets say one bullet point can be Solas-Lavellan romance related (cuz that's inevitable like the tide in the qun 😂) 1. Lavellan and Solas's relationship be tied up in a meaningful way 2. ...I got stuck on one |
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Post by OhDaniGirl on Aug 20, 2017 14:38:46 GMT
so rip Andromeda- hence now I wonder, what are you guys top .. Four hopes for DA4? Lets say one bullet point can be Solas-Lavellan romance related (cuz that's inevitable like the tide in the qun 😂) 1. Lavellan and Solas's relationship be tied up in a meaningful way 2. ...I got stuck on one This is really all I want as well. Preferably without someone ending up dead, pleaseandthankyou. |
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Post by midnight tea on Aug 20, 2017 14:39:33 GMT
1. Lavellan and Solas's relationship be tied up in a meaningful way 2. ...I got stuck on one This is really all I want as well. Preferably without someone ending up dead, pleaseandthankyou. Well, if they end up dead, hopefully it's not permanent. Oh, and doesn't land them in some sort of limbo or something, lol. |
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Post by ladyiolanthe on Aug 20, 2017 15:09:12 GMT
1. Lavellan and Solas's relationship be tied up in a meaningful way.
2. It really is possible to redeem Solas rather than just kill him.
3. The Inquisitor has some role to play in the denouement, under the player's control.
4. Interesting companions.
I know at least one of those is guaranteed to happen, but not sure about the other three.
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Post by midnight tea on Aug 20, 2017 15:56:24 GMT
Heeey, I forgot - it's eclipse day for some of you folks in US soon. Which, of course, made me wonder about a detail in DA It's been a while since I assumed that one of the potential events that may be significant would be eclipse in Thedas. It's sort of a popular trope. What somehow eluded my mind was that with the size of at least one of Thedosian moons, this event will be HUGE. Like, it's probable that the full shadow will envelop the whole of Thedas, instead of just a strip of land. ...Kinda makes me think that this may be what Solas could be waiting for. But it also makes me wonder about Thedas' other moon... just where the heck is it? Anyone has a screenshot of it, perhaps? Hmmm, and maybe the next eclipse would be doubly special, because both moons and the sun will align? Magical things happening during astronomical conjunction is a fairly popular trope too. Oh, and one more thing: 90% sure that what we see here is an eclipse. Real eclipse for reference: |
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Post by Elessara on Aug 20, 2017 16:37:08 GMT
1. Lavellan and Solas's relationship be tied up in a meaningful way. 2. It really is possible to redeem Solas rather than just kill him. 3. The Inquisitor has some role to play in the denouement, under the player's control. 4. Interesting companions. I know at least one of those is guaranteed to happen, but not sure about the other three. Agreed with these. Well, ideally I'd replace #3 with "Playing as the Inquisitor" but I highly doubt that will actually happen so I would settle for your #3. |
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Post by ladyiolanthe on Aug 20, 2017 16:58:11 GMT
^ The nice thing about #3 is that it doesn't actually preclude the possibility that we play the whole game as the Inquisitor.  |
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Post by morir_a_solas on Aug 21, 2017 3:45:27 GMT
1. Lavellan and Solas's relationship be tied up in a meaningful way. 2. It really is possible to redeem Solas rather than just kill him. 3. The Inquisitor has some role to play in the denouement, under the player's control. 4. Interesting companions. I know at least one of those is guaranteed to happen, but not sure about the other three. agreed, although for number 3 I just want the inquisitor to be the one to deal with Solas in the end wether to kill him or redeem him, I don't care if it's a cutscene after the final fight and our new PC only gets to sway the inquisitor one way or another but it wouldn't feel right for anyone else to do it |
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Post by Solas on Aug 21, 2017 8:12:08 GMT
Heeey, I forgot - it's eclipse day for some of you folks in US soon. Which, of course, made me wonder about a detail in DA It's been a while since I assumed that one of the potential events that may be significant would be eclipse in Thedas. It's sort of a popular trope. What somehow eluded my mind was that with the size of at least one of Thedosian moons, this event will be HUGE. Like, it's probable that the full shadow will envelop the whole of Thedas, instead of just a strip of land. ...Kinda makes me think that this may be what Solas could be waiting for. But it also makes me wonder about Thedas' other moon... just where the heck is it? Anyone has a screenshot of it, perhaps? Hmmm, and maybe the next eclipse would be doubly special, because both moons and the sun will align? Magical things happening during astronomical conjunction is a fairly popular trope too. Oh, and one more thing: 90% sure that what we see here is an eclipse. Real eclipse for reference: whats that line... "An eclipse as Fen'Harel stirred"  |
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Post by NeverlandHunter on Aug 21, 2017 12:00:45 GMT
More random questions!
There have been discussions about only Lavellan being able to romance Solas. I think the general consensus for those that are okay with that, is it being due to a vague background connection, yada, yada, elf-y stuff.
Well, my questions are this:
If the Inquisitor was an elf, but not a Dalish, do you think she would be able to woo Solas like Lavellan did?
(This question only works for people who are accepting of Solas only being open to Lavellan.)
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If your Lavellan wasn't the Inquisitor, would Solas still have fallen in love with her? Say she was a companion instead of the leader. Certain aspects about their relationship would change and Lavellan might not have the same opportunities as the Inquisitor. Solas's initial interest in Lavellan was his mark, too, and (my speculation) her ability to use his power for order and good.
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Post by ladyiolanthe on Aug 21, 2017 13:53:21 GMT
Yes, I think Solas could have fallen in love with a city elf as well. I don't think it's the Dalishness so much as the elfiness that he would be drawn to. Although he insists that modern elves are not his people, they are probably closer to his people than anyone else on the planet (other than mages) due to metaphysical reasons that we're mainly just guessing at right now. I don't know about the second one. I mean, the Inquisitor seems to have derived some Dreamer abilities from bearing the mark or else we probably wouldn't have seen dwarves hanging out in the Fade with Solas, among other events. I think that probably was significant for Solas, especially because the balcony scene begins the same for all races - he asks all Inquisitors if they have noticed any changes in their spirit. So maybe a mage elf could have caught his eye if she wasn't the Inquisitor - especially if she had some Dreamer abilities - but I'm not sure about the other classes. Since I play rogues and was playing the Inquisitor, thank goodness I didn't have to worry about it. |
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I'd probably be incapable of flirting with him, anyway.
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