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Post by ellanathehamster on Nov 7, 2024 15:40:45 GMT
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Post by midnight tea on Nov 7, 2024 16:35:25 GMT
There's also one thing I think people may have to keep in mind if they think that some of the scenes may be too short: elves of old found (retained, as former spirits) ways to communicate telepathically, sending thoughts and feelings almost instantaneously, and can perform some sort of aura reading that can shed more light about nature or state of a person they interact with (Flemeth telling Lavellan in DAI that shes 'bright and vibrant', and Solas telling her in Crestwood scene that her spirit is rare and marvelous) We saw that telepathy happen between Morrigan and Flemeth in DAI (as she transfers knowledge of how to turn into a dragon), we saw the transfer demonstrated to Rook by Morrigan AND we now know that when Solas comes after Flemeth the short exchange they've had is not all there was, as the dialogue accompanying mural with Solas' regret about killing Flemythal is much longer than in DAI post-credit scene.
We also know from both the possession attempt by Envy in DAI, and Rook's venture into Lucanis' mind with Spite, that things in mind/Fade that last a long time may take a few moments in the mortal realm. Given the above, and given that Lavellan is an elf, she went through a lot of magical hijinks over years and probably has experience reaching to Solas through dreams that connected them, I really wouldn't be surprised if they've developed a link between them that is imperceptible to external onlookers but informs them both about the depth of their feelings to one another, or even allows them to have involved telepathic discussions - so, for all we know, they may have argued for 20 Fade hours in their mind, while to Rook it looked like they've held hands and shared a kiss  It's of course just a fun speculation, I don't necessarily think it's what must've happened for their scenes to work as they are - but it's, IMO, a distinct possibility that there's more to their exchanges than what we saw. |
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Post by OhDaniGirl on Nov 7, 2024 16:53:35 GMT
OMG that little smile after the kiss, tho! THAT is what we needed to see in the game. It would have helped so much!
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Post by OhDaniGirl on Nov 7, 2024 16:58:43 GMT
The more I think of the last scene, the more I like it  I till keen on believing execution could have been better, but Tweekes n bluesky and brilliant people with flycam helped. For instance, it's a crime game doesn snow this angle of Solas. It's after Lavellan kisses him. Literally would have spared me any worry I felt about him being reluctant.  Also more info from Weekes. Lavellan, the woman that you are  I know we laughed at you for being the worst dalish First in history, but you are, in fact, the very best. Vellana could never How the hell is she going to survive? That's what I'm confused about with this. Is there going to be a food supply? Probably won't have to worry about demons getting to her, but still. She's going to have to learn to sustain herself on the fade real quick.
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Post by midnight tea on Nov 7, 2024 17:16:48 GMT
The more I think of the last scene, the more I like it I till keen on believing execution could have been better, but Tweekes n bluesky and brilliant people with flycam helped. For instance, it's a crime game doesn snow this angle of Solas. It's after Lavellan kisses him. Literally would have spared me any worry I felt about him being reluctant. Also more info from Weekes. Lavellan, the woman that you are I know we laughed at you for being the worst dalish First in history, but you are, in fact, the very best. Vellana could never How the hell is she going to survive? That's what I'm confused about with this. Is there going to be a food supply? Probably won't have to worry about demons getting to her, but still. She's going to have to learn to sustain herself on the fade real quick. IMO, if Solas had reservations about her survival in the Fade, or wherever they'll be together, he'd never risk taking her with him - but also, it seems that places like regret prison are places where physical sustenance either ain't a problem, or less of a problem, because there is moment in the game where Rook is sent physically to regret prison, and it is implied in dialogue and banter with companions that they were there for at least several days, yet we don't see Rook either drinking or eating, or complaining at being thirsty/hungry
Also, since we know that Fade sustenance is a thing and Solas must surely be an individual that knows how to sustain himself on the Fade (in fact, I wonder if it's what makes ancient elves immortal), I don't see why he wouldn't share the secret with Lavellan, and - given all the magical stuff she's dealt with - that she wouldn't learn fast.
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Post by OhDaniGirl on Nov 7, 2024 17:35:31 GMT
How the hell is she going to survive? That's what I'm confused about with this. Is there going to be a food supply? Probably won't have to worry about demons getting to her, but still. She's going to have to learn to sustain herself on the fade real quick. IMO, if Solas had reservations about her survival in the Fade, or wherever they'll be together, he'd never risk taking her with him - but also, it seems that places like regret prison are places where physical sustenance either ain't a problem, or less of a problem, because there is moment in the game where Rook is sent physically to regret prison, and it is implied in dialogue and banter with companions that they were there for at least several days, yet we don't see Rook either drinking or eating, or complaining at being thirsty/hungry
Also, since we know that Fade sustenance is a thing and Solas must surely be an individual that knows how to sustain himself on the Fade (in fact, I wonder if it's what makes ancient elves immortal), I don't see why he wouldn't share the secret with Lavellan, and - given all the magical stuff she's dealt with - that she wouldn't learn fast. Yeah, I assume the food thing won't be too big an issue.
As for the immortality thing, I think we've been given an answer.
We know for a fact now that the Evanuris (and Solas himself) are just spirits housed in lyrium bodies. And we know spirits are eternal, provided they're not somehow destroyed.
But I also think ALL elves are like that. Even modern ones. Consider what Cole said about elven inky:
"Pulled (spirit pulled from the fade), blood that is not blood (because lyrium), a tiny trace of time. Lips struggling to shape language your parents lived."
Kieran also says things:
"Your blood is very old (because lyrium). I saw it right away."
And:
"I just don't know why your people want to look like that."
Presumably, the Evanuris chose the general elf shape, and everyone else just followed suit, I guess?
Then there's the Claws of Dumat text:
Master - now Corypheus - told me that my people, the elves of old, were tied to the Fade (because they're spirits), and that in order to carry out the will of Dumat, he would need to call upon the magic that lives in our blood (lyrium again).
This would also explain why any time an elf has a child with any other race, that child is ALWAYS entirely the other race. Because elf bodies aren't really...real, for lack of a better word. They're just highly detailed, fully functioning lyrium constructs.
That's what I'm getting from all this. Interesting to think about, anyway. The only thing I can't figure is how exactly the fade took away immortality. The mechanics of it elude me.
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