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Post by Auirel on Nov 29, 2016 9:08:32 GMT
I think this one might have killed me. Can someone check my heart to make sure it hasn't exploded?
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Post by phoray on Nov 29, 2016 11:57:44 GMT
NeverlandHunter Anora isn't a bad Queen; it's kinda selfish to make Alistair King for a variety of reasons, one of them being he doesn't want to be a King, he thinks being a Warden is cooler. DA2 Lel wasn't written with a romanced Warden in mind or she'd know where they were at the end. Ignoring that line, she very selfishly breaks Divine rules and allows herself to keep a Warden lover. Morrigan is just a weird complicated person. Witch Hunt ties up the loose plot end of her actually trusting and being in love with the Warden. And then they are together for like 10 solid years. Blackwall spoiler outcomes Unromanced Blackwall turned Warden stays alive and works as a Warden. Romanced Blackwall turned Thom travels to redeem prisoners with his lady love. Only a romanced Blackwall turned Warden dies. <- narrowly missed this ending by no intention of my own twice. Blackwall's only selfless act was not letting that guy be hung. Anyway, I see these characters as pretty much doing what is best for them, which is neither selfish nor selfless.
How is the flirt with Solas NOT FORWARD? Chatty chat chat *yanks Solas's face into your own.*----*oh shit, maybe he isn't interested, you step away*---*he yanks you back* ???!!
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Post by Moondreamer on Nov 29, 2016 12:58:20 GMT
I know nothing about tarot cards, so I can't really attribute, but I'd like to say that I appreciate your efforts to revitalize the thread every once in awhile when it's getting slow I'll try my own question. Game logic dictated that every important post Inquisition event was going to all reach a boiling point at the same time. Your Inquisitor's mark is reaching its expiration date, Orlais and Ferelden are ansty about the power the Inquisition holds, and then everything with the Qunari involving Solas is happening. Let's say this didn't all happen at the same time. If Trespasser was set a year before it actually is, and your Inquisitor's hand isn't throwing them at death's door, how would the meeting with Solas have gone down? So, what I'm getting at with my drawn out explanation, is if your Inquisitor didn't have the "I'm dying right now, so that's why I'm not interrupting you and/or actually having a conversation with you right now" excuse, how would she or he have reacted to Solas's revelations and plans? Or, maybe Solas would have made sure to be gone when the Inquisitor got there if he didn't need to be there to steel her or his ticking time bomb away. Hmmm... good question. I think she would have been angrier if not of the sense of desperation at the idea of finding Solas before her hand kills her that drives her for the entire Darvaraad part of Trespasser (I headcanon that it's pretty much all that keeps her going at that point. Reaching Solas before it's too late and making sure he wasn't dead). By the time she's in front of and he's telling her about his plans, she's just too tired and speechless to react with more anger. This is NOT how she expected this reunion to go, even though she'd figured out he was Fen'Harel already (she's had a sneaking suspicion since seeing the mural where he takes vallaslin away, and the rest of what she finds confirms it). Without the anchor killing her, she wouldn't have been that desperate, probably would have taken her time more than she actually did and definitely wouldn't have let him go before he gave her more of an explanation than he did in the current timeline. I feel like Solas used the pain of the anchor to cut their conversation short, the way it flares up again the moment she starts asking question he doesn't want to answer... That was cheating. So yeah, in conclusion, less desperation, more anger. I wonder if that would have changed her state of mind by the end of it. Perhaps from "I'll save you" to "i'll stop you" even. I'm not sure.
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Post by NeverlandHunter on Nov 29, 2016 16:31:12 GMT
NeverlandHunter Anora isn't a bad Queen; it's kinda selfish to make Alistair King for a variety of reasons, one of them being he doesn't want to be a King, he thinks being a Warden is cooler. DA2 Lel wasn't written with a romanced Warden in mind or she'd know where they were at the end. Ignoring that line, she very selfishly breaks Divine rules and allows herself to keep a Warden lover. Morrigan is just a weird complicated person. Witch Hunt ties up the loose plot end of her actually trusting and being in love with the Warden. And then they are together for like 10 solid years. Blackwall spoiler outcomes Unromanced Blackwall turned Warden stays alive and works as a Warden. Romanced Blackwall turned Thom travels to redeem prisoners with his lady love. Only a romanced Blackwall turned Warden dies. <- narrowly missed this ending by no intention of my own twice. Blackwall's only selfless act was not letting that guy be hung. Anyway, I see these characters as pretty much doing what is best for them, which is neither selfish nor selfless.
How is the flirt with Solas NOT FORWARD? Chatty chat chat *yanks Solas's face into your own.*----*oh shit, maybe he isn't interested, you step away*---*he yanks you back* ?f??!! I agree Anora isn't a bad choice for Queen and that making Alistair King is self-serving on your character's part, but he stayed selfless about it, except when he's hardened and does keep your character around as a mistress. But she accepts the role of Divine without talking to her Warden love about it first. You have a point with her not giving up her relationship though, but that can also be seen as something she's doing for the future of the Chantry. She's setting a precedent that will keep future Chantry members from having to choose between their strong connection to their religion and their love. Yeah, for a relationship that started out so dysfunctional it ended up pretty stable, but initially when she first left her love she did so because she thought she had to. That it was for the best. I think Blackwall is a pretty selfless character all around. His Warden romance ending shows that in particular. I think they're all working towards their idea of the greater good and a better future. It's still their idea of it though, so maybe you can see it as selfish that way. Haha, well that's true enough, but what I meant was the first flirts! I think Solas's first flirt options are nice and subtle or coy. They aren't in your face like Cullen's or Josephine's and Solas's don't feel one-sided By the Fade scene Lavellan and Solas had been flirting, and with headcanon-ing I think it fits my Lavellan's character fine to initiate with a kiss by that point, but the first flirts being really blunt makes me cringe when they're not said by a character thought up as flirtatious.
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Post by NeverlandHunter on Nov 29, 2016 20:24:59 GMT
I know nothing about tarot cards, so I can't really attribute, but I'd like to say that I appreciate your efforts to revitalize the thread every once in awhile when it's getting slow I'll try my own question. Game logic dictated that every important post Inquisition event was going to all reach a boiling point at the same time. Your Inquisitor's mark is reaching its expiration date, Orlais and Ferelden are ansty about the power the Inquisition holds, and then everything with the Qunari involving Solas is happening. Let's say this didn't all happen at the same time. If Trespasser was set a year before it actually is, and your Inquisitor's hand isn't throwing them at death's door, how would the meeting with Solas have gone down? So, what I'm getting at with my drawn out explanation, is if your Inquisitor didn't have the "I'm dying right now, so that's why I'm not interrupting you and/or actually having a conversation with you right now" excuse, how would she or he have reacted to Solas's revelations and plans? Or, maybe Solas would have made sure to be gone when the Inquisitor got there if he didn't need to be there to steel her or his ticking time bomb away. Hmmm... good question. I think she would have been angrier if not of the sense of desperation at the idea of finding Solas before her hand kills her that drives her for the entire Darvaraad part of Trespasser (I headcanon that it's pretty much all that keeps her going at that point. Reaching Solas before it's too late and making sure he wasn't dead). By the time she's in front of and he's telling her about his plans, she's just too tired and speechless to react with more anger. This is NOT how she expected this reunion to go, even though she'd figured out he was Fen'Harel already (she's had a sneaking suspicion since seeing the mural where he takes vallaslin away, and the rest of what she finds confirms it). Without the anchor killing her, she wouldn't have been that desperate, probably would have taken her time more than she actually did and definitely wouldn't have let him go before he gave her more of an explanation than he did in the current timeline. I feel like Solas used the pain of the anchor to cut their conversation short, the way it flares up again the moment she starts asking question he doesn't want to answer... That was cheating. So yeah, in conclusion, less desperation, more anger. I wonder if that would have changed her state of mind by the end of it. Perhaps from "I'll save you" to "i'll stop you" even. I'm not sure. The reason I asked was partially because I couldn't think of an answer myself. It's too frustrating to think about, but I'm glad you did the thinking because I can see my Lavellan reacting in a similar. Anger, lots of anger. When you're not close to death and in a lot of pain you can be a little more expressive and the anger would mask the inner turmoil and emotional pain she would be feeling. She figured he was an ancient elf, but not Fen'Harel himself, but I don't think that revelation's reaction would have changed much. In the grander scheme of things it actually didn't matter that much. It wasn't that he was Fen'Harel and had godly powers, it was what he was planning to do with them. You think Solas hurt the Inquisitor using the Anchor to change the topic of the conversation? That would be so messed up! And that's an interesting thought. If Lavellan listened to a greater extent of Solas's plans and his reasoning would she still be so heartfelt and hopeful about changing his mind? That "love will conquer all" spew will probably not fit any longer (at least for mine).
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Post by midnight tea on Nov 29, 2016 20:48:21 GMT
You think Solas hurt the Inquisitor using the Anchor to change the topic of the conversation? That would be so messed up! And that's an interesting thought. If Lavellan listened to a greater extent of Solas's plans and his reasoning would she still be so heartfelt and hopeful about changing his mind? That "love will conquer all" spew will probably not fit any longer (at least for mine). Nah, I don't think he did. The very first thing he said after he temporarily shut the Anchor was "that will give us some time" and it's after full conversation he says "yes, and we're almost out of time". It does seem that Inquisitor arrived at almost very last moment and Solas couldn't really contain the Anchor long enough to go beyond what he said to us. I wouldn't expect he'd give way more information though, *especially* with Inquisitor he respects. He literally says that "it would be easy to say too much" since Inky is smart enough to piece stuff together, and keeps stuff to himself either because he doesn't want to sabotage his plans entirely or thinks that there's some information we shouldn't know (...yet?).
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Post by Moondreamer on Nov 29, 2016 20:55:00 GMT
You think Solas hurt the Inquisitor using the Anchor to change the topic of the conversation? That would be so messed up! And that's an interesting thought. If Lavellan listened to a greater extent of Solas's plans and his reasoning would she still be so heartfelt and hopeful about changing his mind? That "love will conquer all" spew will probably not fit any longer (at least for mine). Nah, I don't think he did. The very first thing he said after he temporarily shut the Anchor was "that will give us some time" and it's after full conversation he says "yes, and we're almost out of time". It does seem that Inquisitor arrived at almost very last moment and Solas couldn't really contain the Anchor long enough to go beyond what he said to us. I wouldn't expect he'd give way more information though, *especially* with Inquisitor he respects. He literally says that "it would be easy to say too much" since Inky is smart enough to piece stuff together, and keeps stuff to himself either because he doesn't want to sabotage his plans entirely or thinks that there's some information we shouldn't know (...yet?). Well, it's probably a coincidence... still, it did go off again just after he refuses to explain his reasonning and just before the Inquisitor could ask anything else. Mighty convenient that. (Realistically, I know it's just part of the design for that scene, but I'm still headcanoning that he took the coward way out. He knew she'd manage to weedle more out of him otherwise. He does say that saying too much would be too easy. For whatever reason, he doesn't want to give more information. Refocusing on the anchor at that exact moment gives him a good excuse not to.) Edit: To make things clearer, I don't think he intentionnal "hurt" her, at least not more than the anchor was already doing, just that he let up whatever magic was keeping the anchor subdued at that point, instead of, say, waiting another minute or two or however longer it could have lasted (probably not very long, but the timing's suspicious )
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Post by Julilla on Nov 29, 2016 22:23:34 GMT
Hmmm... things are getting quiet in here again. Perhaps a new subject of conversation? So, what tarot cards would best represent your Inquisitor, at the start in Inquisition, at the end of the main game, at the end of Trespasser (also, a lover's tarot card?). I'll take a shot at it, although I don't know the tarot very well so I hope I make no mistake: At the beginning - The Moon: Stands for illusion, fear, anxiety, insecurity, subconscious. Ellana is definitely insecure of her place in this new Inquisition and anxious about a lot of things. During the game once she's Inquisitor - Justice: stands for justice, fairness, truth, cause and effect, law. She is strong on both a sense of fariness for all, and seeking truth whenever she can find it. Post-Trespasser - The Star: Standing for hope and inspiration mostly. She wants to be both, for the people of Thedas, and for Solas himself. IT's also what sustains her in her quest to change his mind. The Star card also reflects her "lover" card quite well. What of you guys? For the beginning of the game,: The Tower. (Sudden, disruptive change, possibly destructive) During Inquisition: The Sun. (Power, vitality, growth, optimism) Post Trespasser: Death. (Ending or finality, grief and sorrow but with hope for the future)
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Post by NeverlandHunter on Nov 29, 2016 22:34:54 GMT
Nah, I don't think he did. The very first thing he said after he temporarily shut the Anchor was "that will give us some time" and it's after full conversation he says "yes, and we're almost out of time". It does seem that Inquisitor arrived at almost very last moment and Solas couldn't really contain the Anchor long enough to go beyond what he said to us. I wouldn't expect he'd give way more information though, *especially* with Inquisitor he respects. He literally says that "it would be easy to say too much" since Inky is smart enough to piece stuff together, and keeps stuff to himself either because he doesn't want to sabotage his plans entirely or thinks that there's some information we shouldn't know (...yet?). Well, it's probably a coincidence... still, it did go off again just after he refuses to explain his reasonning and just before the Inquisitor could ask anything else. Mighty convenient that. (Realistically, I know it's just part of the design for that scene, but I'm still headcanoning that he took the coward way out. He knew she'd manage to weedle more out of him otherwise. He does say that saying too much would be too easy. For whatever reason, he doesn't want to give more information. Refocusing on the anchor at that exact moment gives him a good excuse not to.) Edit: To make things clearer, I don't think he intentionnal "hurt" her, at least not more than the anchor was already doing, just that he let up whatever magic was keeping the anchor subdued at that point, instead of, say, waiting another minute or two or however longer it could have lasted (probably not very long, but the timing's suspicious ) Haha, I agree the timing is suspicious, even if it might just be game logic, but I've thought the exact same thing about it lighting up just then before.
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Post by phoray on Nov 29, 2016 23:26:34 GMT
It seems more obvious that it's either intentional or game design if you watch the "shut up Solas" video. Whereas someone who wants to listen gets minutes and 15 questions, shut up Solas, it pretty much immediately flares up. HAHA
In that case, it seems more like a magical slap.
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Post by Moondreamer on Nov 29, 2016 23:43:41 GMT
As far as the flow of tht scene goes, the anchor flaring up at the end of the conversation just makes sense. It visually shows that your Inquisitor is out of time. No single Inquisitor will go through both the low and high approval conversation so the lenght of that conversation isn't really a problem. For that reason, it's at the very least a choice from the those who designed that scene. As it is, we can't know any more than that, since there's no way to know if our Inquisitor would have tried to keep asking question and only stopped because the anchor suddenly flared up. So, that's to be left to hedcanons
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Post by midnight tea on Nov 30, 2016 0:35:19 GMT
As far as the flow of tht scene goes, the anchor flaring up at the end of the conversation just makes sense. It visually shows that your Inquisitor is out of time. No single Inquisitor will go through both the low and high approval conversation so the lenght of that conversation isn't really a problem. For that reason, it's at the very least a choice from the those who designed that scene. As it is, we can't know any more than that, since there's no way to know if our Inquisitor would have tried to keep asking question and only stopped because the anchor suddenly flared up. So, that's to be left to hedcanons Yes, but in that case Solas has no reason to exert his energy any further, especially in case of a person who he either doesn't like or just flat-out denies any answers he could offer. That, plus in case of liked Inky/romanced Lavellan I don't think 2 or even additional 15 minutes would make a difference in terms of how much he could stay there or say, considering just the massive scope of Trespasser's revelations.
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Post by Moondreamer on Nov 30, 2016 1:13:43 GMT
As far as the flow of tht scene goes, the anchor flaring up at the end of the conversation just makes sense. It visually shows that your Inquisitor is out of time. No single Inquisitor will go through both the low and high approval conversation so the lenght of that conversation isn't really a problem. For that reason, it's at the very least a choice from the those who designed that scene. As it is, we can't know any more than that, since there's no way to know if our Inquisitor would have tried to keep asking question and only stopped because the anchor suddenly flared up. So, that's to be left to hedcanons Yes, but in that case Solas has no reason to exert his energy any further, especially in case of a person who he either doesn't like or just flat-out denies any answers he could offer. That, plus in case of liked Inky/romanced Lavellan I don't think 2 or even additional 15 minutes would make a difference in terms of how much he could stay there or say, considering just the massive scope of Trespasser's revelations. I do agree that it's probably nothing more than a design choice, but I just wanted to mention that I didn't take it as him exerting more energy to make the anchor hurt the person. On the contrary, he just pulls back whatever magic he used in the first place once he feels like the conversation is at an end. But, that's just headcanon and not what really happens
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Post by javeart on Nov 30, 2016 1:35:42 GMT
I never thought about that, but for me I don't think I see the scene going very differently anyway because, as midgnitghttea says, I don't imagine Solas giving us more explanations or the chance to talk him out it and he seems too powerful for us to try anything else than talking. Also, I have to say, I can't imagine either my Inquisitor feeling anything but shocked and broken hearted. I never picture her as suspecting anything, so the fact that Solas is an anciente elf, and even more, an elven god, has to be hard to believe to begin with. And then she thinks, so you're the one who helped the slaves to rebel, and she's drooling over him like "man, you're really amazing" and all that ( I was drooling over him at that point ) and suddenly it's "well yes, and now I'm going to destroy the world" . I really think I heard her heart shattering in that very moment... or maybe it was mine, I don't know My Inqusitor could hardly be anything but shocked and broken hearted, I was surprised she even remembered the mark, I supposse it hurted really bad . I have to say, while we're at it, that I didn't like that scene as much I liked the other ones. I thought Solas part was beatifully written, as always, and his VA was great, but I was not so happy with the Inquisitor. I realize though that they had to introduce a lot of info, and it's always difficult to accomodate so many different RP posibilities with only a few choices. The "I never thought of you as someone who would do that" line (don't remember the exact words) works perfectly for me, and the redeem option too, so at least I have that, but for the most part I kind of hated everything my Inquisitor was saying. Or maybe it was not what but how . I'm always tempted to just skip the investigate options altogether, but then you miss some bits that are nice, and, well, I love hearing Solas talk ... I want to emphasize though that I do understand the limitations, it might be that the other scenes set the bar too high, particularly for the romance. I really think Weekes made a great work in writting such a beatiful and engaging romance with basically only two scenes in which the variation from the "normal" version it's so litte and a break-up scene (or two)
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Post by close2myheart on Nov 30, 2016 1:55:34 GMT
Hi y'all.. I think I've never post in this comfy corner on the internet (funny since I lurk here most of the time XD.. just a tad too shy I guess) Is there an empty seat left here for one more Lavellan that befriends Solas? ^_^v May not romance the Hahren, but I'm a big fan of his character. And even after knowing what he has done and what he's about to do, I still can't find my self hating the guy. Everything about him is just so.. sad Btw, what are the odds of having Elgarn'an / Falon Din / *insert other angry elvhen pantheon name* being the big bad as opposed to Solas/Fen Harel? Kinda like DAI, where we thought that Corypheus was the one who stirred things up, when it was actually.. someone else XD
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I never thought about that, but for me I don't think I see the scene going very differently anyway because, as midgnitghttea says, I don't imagine Solas giving us more explanations or the chance to talk him out it and he seems too powerful for us to try anything else than talking. Also, I have to say, I can't imagine either my Inquisitor feeling anything but shocked and broken hearted. I never picture her as suspecting anything, so the fact that Solas is an anciente elf, and even more, an elven god, has to be hard to believe to begin with. And then she thinks, so you're the one who helped the slaves to rebel, and she's drooling over him like "man, you're really amazing" and all that ( I was drooling over him at that point ) and suddenly it's "well yes, and now I'm going to destroy the world" . I really think I heard her heart shattering in that very moment... or maybe it was mine , I don't know My Inqusitor could hardly be anything but shocked and broken hearted, I was surprised she even remembered the mark, I supposse it hurted really bad . I have to say, while we're at it, that I didn't like that scene as much I liked the other ones. I thought Solas part was beatifully written, as always, and his VA was great, but I was not so happy with the Inquisitor. I realize though that they had to introduce a lot of info, and it's always difficult to accomodate so many different RP posibilities with only a few choices. The "I never thought of you as someone who would do that" line (don't remember the exact words) works perfectly for me, and the redeem option too, so at least I have that, but for the most part I kind of hated everything my Inquisitor was saying. Or maybe it was not what but how . I'm always tempted to just skip the investigate options altogether, but then you miss some bits that are nice, and, well, I love hearing Solas talk ... I want to emphasize though that I do understand the limitations, it might be that the other scenes set the bar too high, particularly for the romance. I really think Weekes made a great work in writting such a beatiful and engaging romance with basically only two scenes in which the variation from the "normal" version it's so litte and a break-up scene (or two) I am in agreement with everything you've said especially the bolded part! I can't remember my initial reaction to Solas admitting his plans to the Inquisitor because I think I finished the DLC and lept into the Blanketfort before I had time to process, but I imagine the sound of my heart breaking into little pieces of misery and disbelief was probably heard. I WANTED A HAPPY CONCLUSION! THIS WAS SUPPOSED TO BE LIKE WITCH HUNT! WE CALLED IT WOLF HUNT AND EVERYTHING! *sobs in a corner* Hi y'all.. I think I've never post in this comfy corner on the internet (funny since I lurk here most of the time XD.. just a tad too shy I guess) Is there an empty seat left here for one more Lavellan that befriends Solas? ^_^v May not romance the Hahren, but I'm a big fan of his character. And even after knowing what he has done and what he's about to do, I still can't find my self hating the guy. Everything about him is just so.. sad Btw, what are the odds of having Elgarn'an / Falon Din / *insert other angry elvhen pantheon name* being the big bad as opposed to Solas/Fen Harel? Kinda like DAI, where we thought that Corypheus was the one who stirred things up, when it was actually.. someone else XD Helloooooo!! *arranges a nest of blankets* Come sit here next to me, Close2myheart! We used to have cookie servers, but I don't know if they're still around. Do you romance anyone or are you a strong and single type? I like the idea of Solas starting as the big bad, but then an "oh, sh*t" happens with either him accidentally releasing angry Elvhen god or something else waking up and causing trouble (The Forgotten Ones, The Old Gods, The Titans, the Nug King, etc.).
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Post by close2myheart on Nov 30, 2016 5:10:32 GMT
Hiiii XD *crashes comfortably on the piles of blankie* and thanks =D All my Lavellans romanced a certain advisor whose resposible for the military arm of the Inquisition XD and yeah, I sorta got stuck with him. On every PT ' So to those who cannot not click Solas' heart icon in every convo available and cannot 'move on'.. I sorta understand and feel for you all. I hope comes DA4 we'd all get to see Solas posturing as FenHarel bossing around agents under his banner this time, as opposed to that 'humble fade walker hermit' Solas in DAI. Bet that would be awsome. I'm sorta kinda wishing that the next main antagonist isn't Solas [since most people seemed to not like him and sees him as the mustache twirling evil dude] but I'd rather we have some other sort of really angry dangerous dude/dudette who escapes Solas's prison. And we'd get to see the Evanuris.. at their worst XD Falon Din comes to mind. Remember the fates of those who refused to join his fan club? XD.. yeah.. There are a lot of awsome fan art here. I wish I could draw a comic. Have one headcanon about a conversation with Solas after the Temple of Mythal, dying to pour that one out but cant since my doodle is comparable to a 7yr old drawing XD
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Post by javeart on Nov 30, 2016 9:41:05 GMT
Hiiii XD *crashes comfortably on the piles of blankie* and thanks =D All my Lavellans romanced a certain advisor whose resposible for the military arm of the Inquisition XD and yeah, I sorta got stuck with him. On every PT ' So to those who cannot not click Solas' heart icon in every convo available and cannot 'move on'.. I sorta understand and feel for you all. I hope comes DA4 we'd all get to see Solas posturing as FenHarel bossing around agents under his banner this time, as opposed to that 'humble fade walker hermit' Solas in DAI. Bet that would be awsome. I'm sorta kinda wishing that the next main antagonist isn't Solas [since most people seemed to not like him and sees him as the mustache twirling evil dude] but I'd rather we have some other sort of really angry dangerous dude/dudette who escapes Solas's prison. And we'd get to see the Evanuris.. at their worst XD Falon Din comes to mind. Remember the fates of those who refused to join his fan club? XD.. yeah.. There are a lot of awsome fan art here. I wish I could draw a comic. Have one headcanon about a conversation with Solas after the Temple of Mythal, dying to pour that one out but cant since my doodle is comparable to a 7yr old drawing XD I had big hopes about Falon Din and not Solas being the next bad guy in the first months after DAI release, because of what Solas says about him and because thinking back then in the theory that "Elven Gods = Old Gods" it seemed that the two Archdeamons that are still alive (Mystery and Night) could perfectly be Falon Din and Dirthamen. Also, I thought it was telling that most statues we find are wolves and owls and that in the Temple of Mythal he's higlighted along with Mythal (for obvious reasons) and Andruil (which I guess it is probably because she plays a central role in the story about the void and the blight, so will hear more about her in future games), so I thought they were kind of setting the stage for his appearance as the bad guy in DA4. He really seemed like a truely bad guy, unlike Solas. Poor deluded me, I even thought he might be the one who killed Felassan I still think it makes sense if he turns out to be the next vilain for those same reasons (though I don't know what to believe now about the relationship between the evanuris and the archdeamons), and I could see Solas confronting him as part of his "I'm a good guy" side, and it would a be a surprising and interesting twist. The problem I see is that even if that happens, Solas still wants to destroy the world if he dosn't change his mind, he might not be the bad guy in DA4 but he probably will be in DA5
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Post by ellawyn on Nov 30, 2016 14:43:18 GMT
Btw, what are the odds of having Elgarn'an / Falon Din / *insert other angry elvhen pantheon name* being the big bad as opposed to Solas/Fen Harel? Kinda like DAI, where we thought that Corypheus was the one who stirred things up, when it was actually.. someone else XD Weeeellllllll... (Side-eyes Flemythal.) I don't think Solas will turn out to be our big bad. An antagonist, clearly, and probably the "main" antagonist for the next game or two. But I don't think he'll be the villain of the series overall. Mainly because it feels like the writers tipped their hand too early with him. We're at - what - the midway point? And we already know who the main villain is and what he plans to do? Nah, there's too much story left to tell and too many mysteries that have yet to resolve. So, what characters do we have, then, that could possibly turn out to be the entire series' big bad? The Evanuris or the Archdemons are a possibility, certainly they seem appropriately big and bad enough. But we've seen extremely little of them and their characters, so it might be somewhat lacking in impact. The Forgotten Ones? That assumes that they are not one of the other two previous groups, and all of the same issues apply - too little screen time, too little depth. They could show up as villains, but the main villain? That requires more - presence, don't you think? But Mythal? Now, she's got all the same perks that come with the Evanuris - she's powerful, she's steeped in the lore, she's properly "epic" enough to be an intimidating final boss. But she's free of the drawbacks they have - she's been in the story since game one, and has made an appearance in every game since. We know her, we know her character, we've already seen some degree of depth from her. We've gotten to know and potentially like her as a character before fighting her as a villain. Also, I mean, there's a ridiculous amount of villain-coding going on with her? Shadowy and mysterious, half-mad but obviously too powerful to just be a crazy old woman, pulling so many strings from so many people, already demonstrating a penchant for manipulation, ulterior motives, and somewhat lacking morality. And, oh yeah, she's recently taken up ranting about betrayal and reckonings and how the whole world's on the precipice of violent change. People who argue she's fighting Solas baffle me. For one she pretty much handed Solas her power - you really think she couldn't have fought him off, weakened as he was? For two she has clear motive to want the Evanuris to get out (So she can kill them herself.) And for three, literally half of her screen time is spent in ominous, vaguely-threatening monologue. Which is like, the number one symptom of future villainy. I wouldn't say Mythal's on Solas' side, precisely, but she does seem to be allowing his plan - which of course she would, if her own villainous plot depends on his going through.
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Post by Moondreamer on Nov 30, 2016 15:12:34 GMT
Does the series really need a "big bad" though? A series of antagonists for sure. After all, we do need those big boss battles, but I don't see it going toward revealing that one single entity is the big bad of the entire thing. The Blight probably come the closest, and it's more of a force of nature than an entity (although I expect we'll find the truth behind the Blight before the end of the franchise and probably get to fight whatever it is).
As for Mythal, I definitely expect her to come back to haunt us at the worse possible moment. Maybe once we finally convince Solas to stop his plans to drop the veil, she'll appear like a bad dream to snatch control over whatever magic Solas is working so she can finish off her own plan. I see Mythal as a manipulator, and a really good one at that. Solas, single-minded as he is and wracked by guilt over his past deeds, would be very easy to steer toward whatever Mythal's final goal is. If Solas is the only one with the knowledge to undo the veil and reach the Evanuris, it would make sense for Mythal to give him the tools to do so, only to arrive at the last minute and take what she wants. Just a theory though. Nothing is for certain. She's certainly a very complex character, same as Solas. It's probably why I also don't think of her as THE Big Bad.
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Post by Auirel on Nov 30, 2016 15:29:39 GMT
I had big hopes about Falon Din and not Solas being the next bad guy in the first months after DAI release, because of what Solas says about him and because thinking back then in the theory that "Elven Gods = Old Gods" it seemed that the two Archdeamons that are still alive (Mystery and Night) could perfectly be Falon Din and Dirthamen. Also, I thought it was telling that most statues we find are wolves and owls and that in the Temple of Mythal he's higlighted along with Mythal (for obvious reasons) and Andruil (which I guess it is probably because she plays a central role in the story about the void and the blight, so will hear more about her in future games), so I thought they were kind of setting the stage for his appearance as the bad guy in DA4. He really seemed like a truely bad guy, unlike Solas. Poor deluded me, I even thought he might be the one who killed Felassan I still think it makes sense if he turns out to be the next vilain for those same reasons (though I don't know what to believe now about the relationship between the evanuris and the archdeamons), and I could see Solas confronting him as part of his "I'm a good guy" side, and it would a be a surprising and interesting twist. The problem I see is that even if that happens, Solas still wants to destroy the world if he dosn't change his mind, he might not be the bad guy in DA4 but he probably will be in DA5 I don't think the Evanuris are the Old Gods, mostly because I would be disappointed if most of the Evanuris were dead already, but I do think there is a relationship between them. Most of my crazy theory stems from what we see from Corypheus and his dragon and what they see to be capable of so bear with me. Corypheus invested a portion of his power into the dragon to become effectively immortal. Where did he learn how to do that? The Well of Sorrows was at the very least knowledgeable on the subject, as whoever drinks from it knows about the technique, so it seems the technique most likely was developed by ancient elves. And we know that the Evanuris wanted to appear as gods, what better way to prove it than by becoming truly immortal? The only (very big) downsides is that you have to have the Taint, you need others to be Tainted in order for it to work, and you need a host to hold a portion of your power. I would also assume that investing portions of your power within others weakens you as well. That's where the Archdemons come in. You need a powerful host to keep your portion of your power safe and when you kill the Archdemon in Origins, you can see a big pillar of light going up into the sky which could possibly be that portion of power returning to the owner. The Archdemons would have been the Evanuris' generals, commanding the darkspawn. They could have been created by Ghil'inan for that purpose, but truly I have no idea where they originally came from. They are proven to be very intelligent, meaning they could also have learned the technique to make themselves immortal as well for insurance for the Evanuris. It works well enough for most Blighted creatures except for Wardens, somehow, though I think the Evanuris would have had no issues as even Corypheus could jump into Warden bodies no problem. This would have been what Solas meant when he said that the Evanuris would destroy the entire world. Left for too long, the Evanuris could have formed an army of self reviving Archdemons (yep, its crazy), all linked to one another to make them all immortal, making it impossible to truly kill any of them. Lacking any means of effectively killing them (he didn't have the knowledge the Warden's have, or assumed it too risky) he created the Veil, which essentially amounts to a blanket over a fire, leaving the Evanuris significantly de-powered and imprisoning both them and the Archdemons away. So the Warden's coming along and killing the Archdemons is effectively giving the power the Evanuris invested back to them, making them stronger and possibly able to break out of their prison soon. It would make them mortal again, at least initially, which may be the motivation a protagonist will need to deal with them should they appear in future games. I probably missed something important that completely discounts my theory, but its late soooo.... Non-obligatory peaceful screencap:
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Post by Moondreamer on Nov 30, 2016 15:42:17 GMT
I had big hopes about Falon Din and not Solas being the next bad guy in the first months after DAI release, because of what Solas says about him and because thinking back then in the theory that "Elven Gods = Old Gods" it seemed that the two Archdeamons that are still alive (Mystery and Night) could perfectly be Falon Din and Dirthamen. Also, I thought it was telling that most statues we find are wolves and owls and that in the Temple of Mythal he's higlighted along with Mythal (for obvious reasons) and Andruil (which I guess it is probably because she plays a central role in the story about the void and the blight, so will hear more about her in future games), so I thought they were kind of setting the stage for his appearance as the bad guy in DA4. He really seemed like a truely bad guy, unlike Solas. Poor deluded me, I even thought he might be the one who killed Felassan I still think it makes sense if he turns out to be the next vilain for those same reasons (though I don't know what to believe now about the relationship between the evanuris and the archdeamons), and I could see Solas confronting him as part of his "I'm a good guy" side, and it would a be a surprising and interesting twist. The problem I see is that even if that happens, Solas still wants to destroy the world if he dosn't change his mind, he might not be the bad guy in DA4 but he probably will be in DA5 I don't think the Evanuris are the Old Gods, mostly because I would be disappointed if most of the Evanuris were dead already, but I do think there is a relationship between them. Most of my crazy theory stems from what we see from Corypheus and his dragon and what they see to be capable of so bear with me. Corypheus invested a portion of his power into the dragon to become effectively immortal. Where did he learn how to do that? The Well of Sorrows was at the very least knowledgeable on the subject, as whoever drinks from it knows about the technique, so it seems the technique most likely was developed by ancient elves. And we know that the Evanuris wanted to appear as gods, what better way to prove it than by becoming truly immortal? The only (very big) downsides is that you have to have the Taint, you need others to be Tainted in order for it to work, and you need a host to hold a portion of your power. I would also assume that investing portions of your power within others weakens you as well. That's where the Archdemons come in. You need a powerful host to keep your portion of your power safe and when you kill the Archdemon in Origins, you can see a big pillar of light going up into the sky which could possibly be that portion of power returning to the owner. The Archdemons would have been the Evanuris' generals, commanding the darkspawn. They could have been created by Ghil'inan for that purpose, but truly I have no idea where they originally came from. They are proven to be very intelligent, meaning they could also have learned the technique to make themselves immortal as well for insurance for the Evanuris. It works well enough for most Blighted creatures except for Wardens, somehow, though I think the Evanuris would have had no issues as even Corypheus could jump into Warden bodies no problem. This would have been what Solas meant when he said that the Evanuris would destroy the entire world. Left for too long, the Evanuris could have formed an army of self reviving Archdemons (yep, its crazy), all linked to one another to make them all immortal, making it impossible to truly kill any of them. Lacking any means of effectively killing them (he didn't have the knowledge the Warden's have, or assumed it too risky) he created the Veil, which essentially amounts to a blanket over a fire, leaving the Evanuris significantly de-powered and imprisoning both them and the Archdemons away. So the Warden's coming along and killing the Archdemons is effectively giving the power the Evanuris invested back to them, making them stronger and possibly able to break out of their prison soon. It would make them mortal again, at least initially, which may be the motivation a protagonist will need to deal with them should they appear in future games. I probably missed something important that completely discounts my theory, but its late soooo.... Non-obligatory peaceful screencap: It's a really interesting theory for sure. Even without them already commanding darkspawns at the time of Arlathan, the idea that the Evanuris attained immortality the same way (or in a very smilar way) Corypheus did makes sense in view of how the Well of Sorrows knew how the dragon was linked to Cory. How else would it have known? And we already know Tevinter magister took a lot of their magic from the ruins of the Elvhen Empire. Would be curious how Cory came up with the dragon idea, frankly. Also makes the elvhen writing from the temple of Mythal take another meaning. This one specifically: "His crime is high treason. He took on a form reserved for the gods and their chosen, and dared to fly in the shape of the divine. The sinner belongs to Dirthamen; he claims he took wings at the urging of Ghilan'nain, and begs protection from Mythal. She does not show him favor, and will let Elgar'nan judge him." What if what that traitor discovered was the way the Evanuris were immortal?
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Post by ellawyn on Nov 30, 2016 15:58:27 GMT
Does the series really need a "big bad" though? A series of antagonist for sure. After all, we do need those big boss battles, but I don'T see it going toward revealing that one single entity is the big bad of the entire thing. The Blight probably come the closest, and it's more of a force of nature than an entity (although I expect we'll find the truth behind the Blight before the end of the franchise and probably get to fight whatever it is). As for Mythal, I definitely expect her to come back to haunt us at the worse possible moment. Maybe once we finally convince Solas to stop his plans to drop the veil, she'll appear like a bad dream to snatch control over whatever magic Solas is working so she can finish off her own plan. I see Mythal as a manipulator, and a really good one at that. Solas, single-minded as he is and wracked by guilt over his past deeds, would be very easy to steer toward whatever Mythal's final goal is. If Solas is the only one with the knowledge to undo the veil and reach the Evanuris, it would make sense for Mythal to give him the tools to do so, only to arrive at the last minute and take what she wants. Just a theory though. Nothing is for certain. She's certainly a very complex character, same as Solas. It's probably why I also don't think of her as THE Big Bad. Well, despite being pretty episodic in structure, Dragon Age still appears to be working towards some sort of point. Every game has built on the last - Origins was our exposition (And introduced Anders/Justice), DA2 and a good chunk of Inquisition was our rising action (And DA2 introduced Cory, Inquisition introduced Solas), and Trespasser was our peak. (Conveniently situated at roughly the midway point, even.) It revealed Solas, it revealed Flemythal, and it revealed the conflict (Reviving magic/the Elvhen.) that will likely drive their stories - or Solas', at least - from this point forward. And the motivation behind Solas' actions - that the modern world is wrong, broken, in need of repair - is one that has been laid down since Origins. Despite cycling through characters, plots, and conflicts, the games have still progressively built on one another. It's not like, say, Black Mirror, where most episodes are utterly irrelevant to each other. There's always been a bigger story above the smaller ones they put front-and-center - and as such, there should be a bigger antagonist above all the smaller ones. Otherwise, whatever finale the bigger story is building to will be less impactful. You only have to compare Solas with Corypheus to see the power of building up a character before making them a villain as opposed to basically inventing one solely to fill the villain role. And I mean, being complex and even likable doesn't keep you from being the main antagonist. I'd be calling Solas the main antagonist if I didn't feel like we're too early in the story for that. It also doesn't mean Flemythal has been behind everything, or even most things. Just that she has, all series long, been working towards something that the player (And most of Thedas) will probably not like.
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Post by Moondreamer on Nov 30, 2016 16:07:23 GMT
Does the series really need a "big bad" though? A series of antagonist for sure. After all, we do need those big boss battles, but I don'T see it going toward revealing that one single entity is the big bad of the entire thing. The Blight probably come the closest, and it's more of a force of nature than an entity (although I expect we'll find the truth behind the Blight before the end of the franchise and probably get to fight whatever it is). As for Mythal, I definitely expect her to come back to haunt us at the worse possible moment. Maybe once we finally convince Solas to stop his plans to drop the veil, she'll appear like a bad dream to snatch control over whatever magic Solas is working so she can finish off her own plan. I see Mythal as a manipulator, and a really good one at that. Solas, single-minded as he is and wracked by guilt over his past deeds, would be very easy to steer toward whatever Mythal's final goal is. If Solas is the only one with the knowledge to undo the veil and reach the Evanuris, it would make sense for Mythal to give him the tools to do so, only to arrive at the last minute and take what she wants. Just a theory though. Nothing is for certain. She's certainly a very complex character, same as Solas. It's probably why I also don't think of her as THE Big Bad. Well, despite being pretty episodic in structure, Dragon Age still appears to be working towards some sort of point. Every game has built on the last - Origins was our exposition (And introduced Anders/Justice), DA2 and a good chunk of Inquisition was our rising action (And DA2 introduced Cory, Inquisition introduced Solas), and Trespasser was our peak. (Conveniently situated at roughly the midway point, even.) It revealed Solas, it revealed Flemythal, and it revealed the conflict (Reviving magic/the Elvhen.) that will likely drive their stories - or Solas', at least - from this point forward. And the motivation behind Solas' actions - that the modern world is wrong, broken, in need of repair - is one that has been laid down since Origins. Despite cycling through characters, plots, and conflicts, the games have still progressively built on one another. It's not like, say, Black Mirror, where most episodes are utterly irrelevant to each other. There's always been a bigger story above the smaller ones they put front-and-center - and as such, there should be a bigger antagonist above all the smaller ones. Otherwise, whatever finale the bigger story is building to will be less impactful. You only have to compare Solas with Corypheus to see the power of building up a character before making them a villain as opposed to basically inventing one solely to fill the villain role. And I mean, being complex and even likable doesn't keep you from being the main antagonist. I'd be calling Solas the main antagonist if I didn't feel like we're too early in the story for that. It also doesn't mean Flemythal has been behind everything, or even most things. Just that she has, all series long, been working towards something that the player (And most of Thedas) will probably not like. It's definitely building toward some kind of point, agreed. I still think the Blight and the truth at the heart of its existence will be at the heart of it. So, perhaps that's who our big bad is. Not so much one person (or god) but the Blight itself. Although I'll admit I'm uncertain how something like this could be resolved as I'm missing too much information. Around it, you have other antagonist. Solas, Mythal perhaps, the other Evanuris. Old gods? Others? but I don't expect any of those to be the end point of the series. Just my thought though and I might be completely wrong on this.
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