The Blanketfort (crying and throwing up) - The Official Solas Thread [Spoilers]

Well no - if Inquisitor 'appears again, likely as NPC' then their story ain't over and we have enough of indication that they'll appear in the next installment of the franchise. This is exactly why I've made a point about the Well. The fact that the character may have ended their cycle as a PC (which we yet don't know) doesn't finish their story - as exemplified in DA by Hawke appearing in DAI, while we can only assume that Inquisitor's role in DA4 would be way more significant, given their promise that they'll deal with Solas themselves.

I was talking about that specific part in exchange. Believe me, it's hard to miss that "the Dalish should have a homeland" is what ultimately all of this circles around...

I've addressed that point from multiple angles and I'm not really sure what else is to add here. I mean, it's not serious to say that the issue of the Dalish not having a homeland is entirely unaddressed in Inquisition, even if it's still unresolved. 

In fact, the whole damn story is coming to a head, even if it's not in a way you want it to see - the elves as a whole (which includes the Dalish) are coming at the forefront as possibly the most important race to be focused in DA, now that we're heading towards exploring Thedas's deep past and Fen'Harel is on a mission to "restore the world of the elves"... and we have a Dalish (Inquisitor) to likely make super-important decisions in regards of place of the elves in the world in future chapter. We're SO beyond concerns of Fereldan Dalish or Merril and a spot on the map for elves, I find it peculiar to even bring it here and just claim that the story "gives nothing to the Dalish". That seems to be little other than a failure of perspective.

I'm sorry, but the only thing ridiculous here is you forcing a narrative that I'm arguing from a position that 'I want you to think what my character thinks is right'. No, I am not - I'm not even remotely arguing from position of my characters. I'm giving you logical reasons or reasons supported by the lore or story to discuss how your demands from authors, the plot or the world are not entirely reasonable, while all I hear back is constantly pushing the notion that "the Dalish have to have a homeland/be focused more in the story" and apparently the (canonic) story has to bend to what you want, nevermind if there's logic or reason behind it.

Saying that "it's not as if it's even out of bounds for this scenario to be pursued, because Dalish elves (more specifically: I) want this or that" misses the fact that the story ain't there to ultimately fullfil character's biggest wishes, or YOUR wishes on that matter.

It's even richer that you're discussing the whole thing on a frikking Solas thread - a character most people here (and most of their Inquisitors) like a lot and would like to see resolution to Lavellan romance, or see Solas redeemed or spared or whatever, yet none of us is certain whether we're going to get that resolution from the story, simply because it may not go in that direction OR if it's going to happen in a shape we (or our characters) want to, among other things.

Just saying that "the Dalish (me!) really want that" won't mean that the solution will materialize, or that ultimately will either matter or will have the shape people want - after all, it's getting obvious that Solas is attempting to do what many Dalish are dreaming about, ultimately going well beyond a small patch of land for a few Dalish tribes.

Here we go again *sigh*.... The Warden also didn't have to deal with Exalted Council which was summoned specifically to undermine their power just two years after main shenanigans. The DAO hero simply didn't reach the point of the story where they have to deal with consequences and get themselves embroiled in troubles that encompass pretty much *whole* of known Thedas.

And it was said before - you're seriously overestimating what Inquisitor could do, and likely what they could buy with their "substantial funds" when you yourself said that they have 'enormous military' to maintain. The army doesn't maintains itself, and after Corypheus' defeat it's hard to expect for the rest of Thedas to keep donating and funding Inquisition's army.

 Why should I provide a reason why 'elven protagonist can't impact Dalish society', when I'm taking my time to demonstrate that they did? Sorry, but the "all you're saying is that it doesn't matter to you" part is what you keep doing: it's you who keeps claiming that all accomplishments of Inquisitor -whether they impact people in general, elves in general or Dalish in particular - simply don't matter to you, because they're either not acting in specific way you want them to, or are not shown to act in specific way you want them to.

And the fact that you're repeating yourself all this time is NOT a point in your favor. All your line or argumentation basically amounts to "the Dalish need a homeland and Warden could do this or that in DAO, therefore Inquisitor should get the Dalish a homeland or the story should be focused on Inquisitor getting elves a homeland".

That's all that's done here, with little reason to support your case, other then "welp, Inquisition has army and money!" and repeating the same thing ad nauseam, while treating all I say as basically "that's just what you want!".... even if it makes no sense at all.

Apparently everything Inquisitor does is *nothing* unless it's giving elves the land and establishing new kingdom for them, or shares secret knowledge with them, nevermind whether it's possible at all or what consequences it comes with...

...Huh. I'm sorry, but considering that Ameridan is Dalish from actual kingdom of the Dales, your claims are quite something. The fact that he's fighting for a way to preserve the kingdom the best way he knows how (supporting Drakon and thinking it important for elves of the Dales to keep the alliance in order for kingdom to survive... which, you know, he was right in the end) also makes him deeply care for Dalish and elves in general, which I thought was important for you.

Yet you just denounce and dismiss his dedication, plainly because 'he's not Dalish the way you want the Dalish to be'.

I mean, this here seems to be the crux of a problem - you say that you're not interested with fandom wank for nonexistent stories, yet fandom wank for nonexistent narrative is what it all seems to be about: you have a specific picture of Dalish in your head and if anything goes against that picture, or (your) Dalish aren't focused on the story enough, then apparently it's a Big Problem if not THE Biggest Problem.

I'm not saying that you can't have certain opinions and interpretations, after all there's a room for it, but it's becoming something of an issue when you're starting to make demands from the story that sound quite unreasonable (it's fine to ask more visible involvement for Inquisitor if you feel it lacking... but not when it becomes apparent that anything that's not giving Dalish lands or sharing Well of Sorrow's knowledge is apparently inadequate) OR interpret every reason any other person gives you that disagrees with you as "excuses" or "things I argue from position for what my character thinks is right". That'll pretty much guarantee that you'll see anyone who thinks differently as 'odd' or 'confusing', even if it's just part of normal discourse in any other parts of fandom.

Who's deflecting here? I've asked you "which excursions have nothing to do with crisis of the Breach that are as massive as giving lands to the Dalish" and you can't give me any specific example.

I think both you and I know that it's plainly because it ain't one - there's just no 'lenghty, time-consuming action' Inquisitor can take that could be as significant and time-consuming as new homeland for the elves/Dalish. It's such a big demand from the story it'd likely require either a DLC or a new title. I mean, heck - in a sense the new title will be exactly about the Dalish dream, that with Solas restoring the elves back.

Yes, it's quite short sighted, given the context of my argument - and you're not helping your case when, instead of focusing on sound arguments to support your stance, you prefer to insinuate that "I don't mind focusing almost exclusively on human-centric quests", instead of seeing the whole thing simply in different light than you, Dalish included.

But no, apparently it's unacceptable. Anyone who has different views on the Dalish or story than you apparently either dislikes the Dalish or doesn't care about them and simply focuses on humans or whatever ...