The Blanketfort (crying and throwing up) - The Official Solas Thread [Spoilers]

Actually, we don't know whether elves attacking people at the borders of Tirashan are Dalish - that's just an assumption of lord of Serault, the POV of which we're limited to when playing Last Court.

In fact, in Trespasser Leliana compares those elves to Sentinels in ToM, so it's safer to assume that they're in fact not Dalish - an assumption further supported by the fact that they invoked gods nobody from attacked ever heard the Dalish utter.

I'm not sure what being more or less feared has much to do with an argument that she appears to help Dalish more?

She helps Dalish more, but for more prosaic reasons - as you've pointed out, they fear her less: a point that has more to do with (at least some) Dalish tribes being more tolerant of magic, rather than Mythal paying more attention to elves. And I'm not saying that she's not interested with modern elves in particular for whatever reason, but in the large scale of things, she doesn't seem to be specifically focused on them.

The sergeant also comments on them as well, and the main difference noted by the sergeant is that the elves they fought didn't invoke the Creators but other gods. There's also reference in Inquisition to some elves in the Dales followed the Forgotten Ones, so it isn't as though only ancient elves would be capable of following the Forgotten Ones.

I just said that. Is there something wrong with my English?

I don't count it as a point towards them being modern elves - plainly because, as I said before, how Tirashan is characterized as deeply dangerous, magical place, more so than even Arbor Wilds were; and we all know at least one reason why Arbor Wilds were mostly uninhabited, with occasional Dalish tribe that was likely eliminated by Sentinels, who attacked both Corypheus' and Inquisition's people alike when everyone got closer to the temple.

I addressed that the perspective involved in that moment wasn't strictly that of the main character since we were speaking with another person who was sharing his own view on the matter.



If the only real differences being noted in the encounter are their vallaslin and the name of the gods being invoked, I don't see why one would presume they were intended to be ancient elves.

Given that there was a battle between ancient elves and Tevinter mages at Sundermount, the conflict between the elves of Elvhenan and the humans of the Imperium seemed to have spilled over quite a bit. And some ancient elves retreated to Cad'halash Thaig, which is beneath modern day Ferelden territory.

As for what transpired in the wilderness of Serault, it's also suspected to be tied to humans from Serault getting close to one of their camps, which is why the attacks stop when you revive the "old, harsh laws of the western forest". To chose this optional path, the protagonist considers that the "Dalish rarely launch an attack like this without cause. Perhaps some of [his] folk strayed too close to one of their camps."

Apparently, Cullen looks older then the over 1,000 year old Solas.

I think there's some misunderstanding - you seem to think that providing feedback from another person means a different point-of-view, what I'm saying that TOTALITY of all the experiences and interactions of the marquis is their POV, which includes feedback from others. 

I'm simply talking in storytelling terms. We're basically closed in 'marquis of Serault's' bubble, just like in Inquisition we're closed in Inquisitor's bubble. Every perspective provided in the story feeds into a singular perspective of the protagonist, even if it modifies their views. 

And that sergeant says nothing that makes marquis informed enough that they could tell which elves are Dalish and which are not - in fact, even though the sergeant tells the marquis that these elves were different from other Dalish encounters they don't change the strategy how to deal with them and operates solely on guesswork.

The only specifically Andrastian character in DAI that we play is Trevelyan, and there are a few non-Andrastians in DAO as well  ...

Either way, I think we'll be hearing about Forgotten Ones and specifically about those Tirashan elves in DA4, no matter what they are.

It's true - but we actually find out what the Horned Knight is if we follow the quest: a spirit conjured by Shame. I think we can safely rule out Shame conjuring a bunch of spirits and turning them into a strange, hostile Dalish tribe that worships Forgotten Ones 

And unlike that specific persona, we really know very little of these elves and don't go on any quest of discovery during TLC - the only thing we know is they're different, that marquis and his sergeant thinks that they're still likely Dalish and that Leliana later inspects the reports and tells us that they resemble Sentinels more than Dalish elves.

Nothing beats those ancient elf genes 

(plus, I think the age guess depends largely on photo fed to the program)

If another person is giving their information on the matter, and that dialogue is specifically being listed for the player to read, then it's clearly separate from the thoughts that are being had by the respective main character. I have to say that this is getting kind of circular at this point.


I'm not sure I understand your confusion, since all I said was that it would be nice to have an option to play as a non-Andrastian in the next game.


If the Marquise and the sergeant never remark that the elves look physically different than modern elves, I don't see why you assume that they must look physically different. I'm also not sure why you believe reports that are being read about in Trespasser automatically mean that they're talking about the same group of elves, especially when that encounter in "The Last Court" is entirely optional.