The Blanketfort (crying and throwing up) - The Official Solas Thread [Spoilers]

I'd say that - since that kind of specific religion is limited to Tevinter Imperium - they likely call it "Tevinter Chantry" or their set of beliefs simply as "Tevene". It's not without a precedent, since the Qunari are both members of the race/nation, as well as followers of their specific ideology.

And I've made comparison to Islam, predominantly because the Tevene Chantry is a religion that was adapted by Tevinter later, as the whole "Maker" idea was indeed Andraste's. I didn't mean to say that the were perfect analogues though.

Anyway... I still have to laugh that Cassandra's Maker could be Solas Of course, I don't mean to imply that he's flattered that she basically worships him - just that he was likely one of the blueprints for the whole idea, and is in fact responsible for all the religions and cultures of modern Thedas emerging.

There's one interesting hint in the whole exchange though - or at least the part where Solas says that 'he's always open to new ideas'... that means that there was likely no entity like Maker in Elvenhan, or in times prior to Evanuris (or it was a deity not understood that way), considering that Solas thinks of the idea as novel. 

In Tevinter, it's called the Imperial Chantry.

Also, the cult of the Maker predated Andraste, or at least scattered belief in him.

The Imperial Chantry thing is something I hope they will sort out properly for the next game. The Christianity/Islam analogy seems to suit it best for me, since Islam recognises Jesus as a prophet of God, just not divine, which is pretty much the difference between the Imperial and Orlesian Chantry as I originally understood it.

The Imperial Chantry was in fact the first unified, state sponsored, cult of the Maker, as opposed to those in the south which were many and varied until Drakon came along and decided to simplify things. Now according to Wot1, Hessarian is a big deal in the Imperial Chantry, which is hardly surprising considering he was its founder. There is much made of the fact that he heard the Maker's voice urging him to be merciful with Andraste and he claimed to be her disciple as well as pointing the finger of betrayal at Maferath. He called it Andrastrianism. Several other Altus mages conveniently claimed to have encountered Andraste's spirit in the Fade, urging them to convert, so they avoided his purges of the Magisterium. Apparently he founded the first Circles of Magi where mages were to be properly trained in the service of the community but of course they were open Circles just as they are in Tevinter today. At that time the Archon doubled as the High Priest of their religion, although the majority of the rest of the clergy were Soporati. And whilst he freed the elves from slavery (likely because there was so much unrest he had no choice) he didn't abolish it altogether, which was the aim of Andraste and Shartan, according to the Canticle of Shartan (which no doubt was never part of the Imperial Chant).

However, the problems arise when you look at the later history. For some reason, despite being the original Chantry by some 150 years, the Imperial Chantry saw fit to appease the southern Chantry on its inception in order to be recognised by it, which is something I can't quite fathom. So they reduced the Archon's role in the Chantry and transferred authority over the faith to Grand Clerics, apparently giving deference to the southern Divine. The Orlesian Chantry disapproved of the fact that the Imperial Chantry admitted men to the priesthood (which was also the practice originally down south if the cult in Haven was anything to go by) and were apparently unaware that mages were also members of the Tevinter clergy. Then ultimately they fell out because of the interpretation of Andraste's teaching about magic and the south claimed the north had altered the Chant of Light. I wonder if they were just using their original version from the time of Hessarian.

The oddest bit thought is the Canticle of Silence. It is stated that the Imperial has several Canticles not found in the southern Chant and I would have thought the Canticle of Silence would have been one of these. Whilst the south removed it as political propaganda (which it likely was), seeing as it was written by Hessarian, I would have thought the Imperial Chantry would have insisted on keeping it, or at least reinstated it seeing as it was only removed some 50 years before the schism. Yet the Canticle of Silence unequivocally lays the blame for the darkspawn on the corrupt priesthood of the Old Gods and even if the Archon and his people were absolved of the crime, the finger of responsibility is still pointed at Tevinter. Then Dorian claims that his people had always claimed that this was a southern lie and "it wasn't us", which is why he is so upset when Corypheus turns out to be real. So I wonder just what written texts that the Imperial Chantry does have. As I say, presumably we will find out in the next game.

Still according to WoT the faith in Tevinter is Andrastrianism, just a different one to that in the south. If you leave out the controversy over the view of magic, I would have said that Tevinter has the original version of the Chantry faith, as opposed to individual cults, and it is the Orlesian Chantry that is the latecomer to the scene.

Solas , it's your Tumblr - you can do whatever you wish with it! No one's going to judge you. DAI's been out for a while; ME:A is the game a lot of people are excited about now.

Another year or two and everyone will be excited for DA4.

Art Post.

Solas and Lavellan portraits.
Source: shepofshipsart.tumblr.com/post/156264012779/pangara-lavellan-and-solas-commissioned-by

Modern AU Solas playing pool.
Source: solaslover.tumblr.com/post/156290700666/thank-you-tel-abelas-mofo-for-the-daily-sketch

Topless Solas smiling.
Source: thefinalparadox.tumblr.com/post/156238934459/doodle-a-day-20-i-imagine-solas-to-be-a-very

Cute chibi Solas and Mordin Solus.
Source: nachio.tumblr.com/post/156261016645

Welp, it's not like we have anything new to discuss  And that probably won't change at least until May (when the comic will be released), not to mention that DA team is going to be particularly silent now anyhow, to not take any spotlight from MEA (and Secret IP?).

And I've been on a search for some other games to occupy my time with, but I've either stuck with what I know (large housing update coming to ESO in February) and just wasn't in a mood to get involved with a different franchise or play games I've been eyeing for a while.

I'm sort of in this strange limbo where I don't really know what to pick for my entertainment, even though I have a pile of 'to watch/to play/to read' things that has been staring at me since forever and mostly am inclined to wait for MEA and see if I'd play it (kinda wonder if Europeans will have access to that 10 hour demo on March 16 as well, considering that I've decided to get an Access account to try a few titles in the Vaul not so long ago) and like it even half as much as I like DA universe.

I find it hard to get excited about anything other than when DA4 is going to come out because we were left with an unfinished story and DG even admitted as much before he left. Strangely enough I came late to the ME universe, only playing the trilogy the year after DA2 (on recommendation) in order to give me something fill the time to the next DA game, then got hooked on the story of Commander Shepard but I was lucky with ME because I didn't have to wait around years between instalments and was able to play each one straight after the other.

So whilst it will probably be good for me if Andromeda does grab my interest to stop me obsessing about Dragon Age, it hasn't managed it yet.

certainly one of the upsides of the whole thing (not that I am not super excited/hype/happy about Andromeda, becuz I am) is that ME:A helps pass the time until DA4/next information about Solas, for me

on current discussion, sorta: if I had my way my Inquisitor, who's really warlike/militaristic, would (attempt to) lead some kind of uprising/rebellion among modern elves, City and Dalish both. workin with Briala would be a start. but it's an AU headcanon scenario becuz obvious reasons.

I love how its been so long since DAI but there are still people (people who are big enough fans of the game/games that they make an account on a forum dedicated to discussing it and post with frequency) hearing new dialogue options and discovering stuff for the first time in subsequent playthroughs

A completely positive outcome for the Elves in DA4? Anything's possible... but will the game be able to actually show it with any detail? From exploring Tevinter proper and all the various subcultures therein, likely infodumps from the Ambassadoria, slaves from around Thedas (Rivain, Nevara, Antiva, Seheron), not to mention the Qunari war heating up, any Elven development is going to have to fight to squeeze in.