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Post by Deleted on Aug 15, 2016 21:54:04 GMT
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Post by IllustriousT on Aug 15, 2016 21:57:14 GMT
One more - My eyes are still wet with laughing tears. "The Ancients do dance" Although it's not Solas, I needed to remember this little guy for a long time .
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Post by Dazzle on Aug 15, 2016 22:11:20 GMT
Always wanted to make this gesture a gif, and I had some downtime today - so here it is. His arm gesture and expression make this a "What, you gotta problem?" moment. I just love it. It's like a moment of rebellion, but then he looks so sorrowful at one point that it just breaks my heart.
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Post by IllustriousT on Aug 15, 2016 22:13:16 GMT
Always wanted to make this gesture a gif, and I had some downtime today - so here it is. His arm gesture and expression make this a "What, you gotta problem?" moment. I just love it. It's like a moment of rebellion, but then he looks so sorrowful at one point that it just breaks my heart. *Heart Broken* Here comes the tears. Quick! Give me something to drink! *sneaks to Tavern* Edited to add one more. I know I know...but this time I mean it: Fen'harel and a mouse.
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Post by Dazzle on Aug 15, 2016 22:43:54 GMT
It's like a moment of rebellion, but then he looks so sorrowful at one point that it just breaks my heart. *Heart Broken* Here comes the tears. Quick! Give me something to drink! *sneaks to Tavern* Edited to add one more. I know I know...but this time I mean it: Fen'harel and a mouse. Also, his armour is stunning. What is that?
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Post by IllustriousT on Aug 15, 2016 23:06:13 GMT
*Heart Broken* Here comes the tears. Quick! Give me something to drink! *sneaks to Tavern* Edited to add one more. I know I know...but this time I mean it: Fen'harel and a mouse. Also, his armour is stunning. What is that? This is from Trespasser Skyhold PJ Replacer and Schematics Mod. Its called the Wolfs Coat, there is the non-hooded variation as well. Love these.
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Post by Dazzle on Aug 15, 2016 23:35:18 GMT
Oooh! It's compatible with the Circle Robes mod! My Eibhlin and Solas are gonna be the best dressed elves around!
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Post by ladyiolanthe on Aug 15, 2016 23:36:45 GMT
What confounds me a bit is that the qunari are said to hail from a different continent altogether - so if the elves created them, how did they end up so far away? Well... Exactly, plus we don't actually know how extensive Elvhenan was, do we? We just assume it was limited to the continent of Thedas, but that has never actually been stated in any lore that I'm aware of. The wiki suggests that Imshael said that Elvhenan covered most of Thedas, but it doesn't say where Imshael says that. In The Masked Empire, what I can find Imshael saying about Elvhenan is as follows: "All of this - Orlais, Ferelden, those bits over to the west - all of it was part of Elvhenan." (page 227) Now, when Imshael says 'all of this,' it is pretty ambiguous whether that means just southern Thedas, whether it includes all of Thedas, or whether it includes Thedas and more. He does list off the two countries of southern Thedas by name, but I do not think his list is necessarily exhaustive. His audience is, after all, Michel de Chevin who would be most familiar with Orlais and Ferelden.
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Post by Shari'El on Aug 16, 2016 2:09:57 GMT
]Exactly, plus we don't actually know how extensive Elvhenan was, do we? We just assume it was limited to the continent of Thedas, but that has never actually been stated in any lore that I'm aware of. The wiki suggests that Imshael said that Elvhenan covered most of Thedas, but it doesn't say where Imshael says that. In The Masked Empire, what I can find Imshael saying about Elvhenan is as follows: "All of this - Orlais, Ferelden, those bits over to the west - all of it was part of Elvhenan." (page 227) Now, when Imshael says 'all of this,' it is pretty ambiguous whether that means just southern Thedas, whether it includes all of Thedas, or whether it includes Thedas and more. He does list off the two countries of southern Thedas by name, but I do not think his list is necessarily exhaustive. His audience is, after all, Michel de Chevin who would be most familiar with Orlais and Ferelden. It really does sound like it's just southern Thedas, but it doesn't fit - what's up with the Arlathan Forest up north? I always thought Arlathan was originally there but it could be that they just decided to name the forest after the great city (but why?). There is the city called Solas which also lies to the north, not sure if it means something since we can't know if it was built post the Veil or before. Also "bits to the west" = Tirashan? Because if I had to guess the Tirashan was the land of the Forgotten Ones. Anyhow what we do know is that there are probably Eluvians in Par Vollen or Seheron, The Darvaarad is coastal and it is most likely in Qunari territory and it's through there that the Qunari invasion began.
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Post by Shari'El on Aug 16, 2016 4:20:36 GMT
Am I the only person who feels uncomfortable looking at this fresco? The freed elves seem.. like walking dead - pale, gaunt cheeks, just staring ahead, in that weird bubble thingy with thick border. The elves with the vallaslin seem healthier, happy even, not sure if they are happy because Fen'Harel is taking their markings or they were happier before being freed. The orb is there, in what looks like a sea that's filling up... or going down? The waves are the same as the waves from the vallaslin, is the vallaslin drawing energy from marked slaves into the foci? Maybe the elves in the back are not freed elves but nobles? Fen'Harel turned his back on them and they watch helplessly as he takes their slaves away? I don't want to think these are the freed slaves, they look miserable, something is amiss. Was that what Solas meant when he said that "You saw another story, written in desperation to give me far more credit than I deserve"? The pattern of the orb is peculiar, it has a border like the border you see on the ground (= earth?) and the pattern in the middle is waves like the water it's sunken in. Not sure if it means something but it just caught my eye.
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Post by bardox on Aug 16, 2016 7:00:54 GMT
I always befriend Solas even knowing how it ends, but I really hope that Flemeth returns in some form and eats that little bastard. Of the entire series, Flemeth is my favorite character. I imagine a giant dragon landing on Solas and bites his head off or something along those lines. "No no, please no!" Could be alone in that I suppose.
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Post by Shari'El on Aug 16, 2016 9:41:59 GMT
We discussed this some a while back. Here's a link to my take. I do think it is important to consider what Solas says about the artwork giving him more credit. More reveals may be coming. Brace yourself. -Reads- Okay this is making me uncomfortable, I also did wonder if the Evnauris got their powers from the vallaslin wearers or did Fen'Harel store the magic from the vallaslins into his orb.. It doesn't sound THAT bad, sounds like a side benefit, but when you look at those elves behind Fen'Harel you kind of wonder if something happened to them after the removal of the vallaslin, maybe they lost as much as they gained? We know Solas values freedom above everything, he is so passionate about that that even if someone is happy under servitude he won't listen. Maybe the vallaslin takes away the freedom of the wearer but also GIVES them access to stronger magic or easier access to the Fade (as an incentive, to make slavery appear not as bad "you wear our markings and in turn you'll be able to use our magic"). Solas probably won't understand how it is to be less gifted with magic, so as far as he could see freedom was worth more than any sort of magical present, not realizing not everybody he takes under his wing feels that way.
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Post by Siha on Aug 16, 2016 10:13:16 GMT
It really does sound like it's just southern Thedas, but it doesn't fit - what's up with the Arlathan Forest up north? I always thought Arlathan was originally there [...] There is the city called Solas which also lies to the north [...] Also "bits to the west" = Tirashan? Because if I had to guess the Tirashan was the land of the Forgotten Ones. I just wondered... do we know that north is north and has always been and will always be north? I mean, it's a land of magic and stuff. You got an overlay network (the Fade) connecting different places, in fact even an overlay over the overlay (the crossroads, where the eluvians lead to), teleporters (pedestals) and all such things. Maybe geographic placement isn't much more than a convenience and changes over time, like I can rearrange the furniture (countries/regions) in my apartment (Thedas). It's still my shelf and bed, just they reside in different places. The continents on Earth changed considerably over millions of years, maybe something similar happens in Thedas, just faster? This is nothing I thought about before and I don't even have an elaborate opinion on this, it just popped up in my mind.
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Post by Amburu on Aug 16, 2016 10:45:44 GMT
I've just realized, Solas's plans™ are supposed to "destroy" Thedas But what about the other continents ?
Also I've just met a DA fan on the french twitter and they hate solas so much :cries: I can tell they picked the "IM GOING TO KILL HIM" option... I try to not anger them but it's so scary lol help
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Post by Shari'El on Aug 16, 2016 10:46:27 GMT
Ok, I'll suggest an interpretation that might make you feel less uncomfortable. The blue aura around the elves on the right reminds me of a barrier. Maybe it is depicting their being under the protection of Fen'Harel. Or, perhaps the barrier is indicating that their magic is their own (contained within themselves) rather than feeding their masters. Also you can see the elves on the left are hooded and all look about the same, while the elves on the right have bared heads that reveal their individuality. That could be a good thing. Yay Team Optimism! Perhaps the free elves on the right are in drab colors and are not smiling because they are part of Fen'Harel's war against the Evanuris and they also understand the responsibilities/troubles that comes with of freedom...as is mentioned in this line from "Where Willows Wail": To the inevitable and troubling freedom we are committed. The Free are not care-free. They have to fight to keep their freedom Okay, that does sound better, now that I look at it better the color of the bubble around them is very similar to the color of the pool the foci is in and it is contained, it has this pinkish barrier. When compared to the vallaslin wearing elves - they have a bubble but it's empty and has no barrier, and right next to it you see a pooling of "magic", you can literally see in running from them to the foci (it even has a slope). It could be that the freed elves are tinted blue because there is a layer of magic above them, a bit like this: -throws a layer above the image and fills it with blue- You've put my mind at ease, I feel so much better, and it even doesn't sound like a stretch
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Post by Shari'El on Aug 16, 2016 11:16:17 GMT
Your blue tint explanation seems perfectly reasonable to me. I'm glad to have helped to set your mind at ease. Also, let's face it, if the murals and mosaics were some sort of propaganda, as Solas suggests, they probably wouldn't be depicting anything nefarious anyhow. I'm sure we'll eventually get a less biased explanation of exactly what Solas did in the old days. Here's hoping it isn't too disturbing. Team Optimism! This reminds me, I made this right before Trespasser was released: I remember Blanketfort panicking over the then upcoming DLC XD I want to panic again ;-; (where's DA4 dang it!?)
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Post by Amburu on Aug 16, 2016 11:45:01 GMT
I SUSPECT YOU HAVE QUESTIONS ▬ fandom screams foreverI'm feeling threatened for my life over this ship right now for having met/read hate this morning o_o I... I forgot it was that bad hhhhfkzelmqpmzkehmqgzuiskjegl it's so scary outside *hides in blankets*
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Post by Deleted on Aug 16, 2016 11:54:33 GMT
One more - My eyes are still wet with laughing tears. "The Ancients do dance" Although it's not Solas, I needed to remember this little guy for a long time . hahaha! That's a pee dance if I ever saw one!
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Post by Shari'El on Aug 16, 2016 11:58:29 GMT
I SUSPECT YOU HAVE QUESTIONS ▬ fandom screams foreverI'm feeling threatened for my life over this ship right now for having met/read hate this morning o_o I... I forgot it was that bad hhhhfkzelmqpmzkehmqgzuiskjegl it's so scary outside *hides in blankets* I keep forgetting how much negativity there is towards Solas, it's too safe here lol I mean, it's better than having lots of people going "meh" over him, a character that doesn't get a response (either way) from the player isn't a well written character. Think about it this way - there are so many people who have opinions about Solas and want to confront him that if they make DA4 there is no way they can not include Inqi without getting a massive backlash D:
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Post by Amburu on Aug 16, 2016 12:10:35 GMT
I keep forgetting how much negativity there is towards Solas, it's too safe here lol I mean, it's better than having lots of people going "meh" over him, a character that doesn't get a response (either way) from the player isn't a well written character. Think about it this way - there are so many people who have opinions about Solas and want to confront him that if they make DA4 there is no way they can not include Inqi without getting a massive backlash D: Hah sure, but I wasn't expecting to get anxiety right now today hahaha I'm bad at dealing with this (duh, really ?) Never stepping out of blanketfort again !
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Post by BioFan on Aug 16, 2016 13:48:00 GMT
Your blue tint explanation seems perfectly reasonable to me. I'm glad to have helped to set your mind at ease. Also, let's face it, if the murals and mosaics were some sort of propaganda, as Solas suggests, they probably wouldn't be depicting anything nefarious anyhow. I'm sure we'll eventually get a less biased explanation of exactly what Solas did in the old days. Here's hoping it isn't too disturbing. Team Optimism! This reminds me, I made this right before Trespasser was released: I remember Blanketfort panicking over the then upcoming DLC XD I want to panic again ;-; (where's DA4 dang it!?)I can't help but see that "everything will be ok" and giggle a little bit. It wasn't. My poor sweet not-so-innocent feels! Good thing I had this:
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Post by Oswin on Aug 16, 2016 14:04:03 GMT
Tsk. I leave the BSN for five minutes and they go and shut it down. Disgraceful. Ok, so it was technically 10 months. But times flies. Felt like five minutes. Happy to see my favourite corner of the internet lives on in a new home. I've lost a lot of forums in my time and I'm still not over some of them. People can say what they want about other areas of the BSN, but the Solas thread has always been such a lovely community. Anyho, hello again to anyone that may remember me; and to those that don't - Greetings! I'm Oswin. Creator of silly comments and even sillier gifs and pics. I'm not very good at theories so it's all I could ever bring to the table
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Post by Shari'El on Aug 16, 2016 14:24:09 GMT
BioFan! I'm a fan, I love your stuff D: I think I remember seeing this image in twitter about a year ago, gosh time flies... I remember how I said to myself, "well it took them a long time to make DAI because they moved to a new engine, but now that they got the hang of it it'll probably take like year and a half!" </3 I don't think I can mentally survive the wait.
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