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Post by ladyiolanthe on Sept 4, 2016 22:45:43 GMT
See, I don't believe that really. There'd be no reason to put in all these hints that elves, even modern elves, can survive in a Veil-less world if it the end result weren't "The modern elves are going to be the ones intended to populate Solas' world." What would be the point to it? Otherwise they'd just say that the modern elves die like everyone else. I guess Solas might not be aware of that and believes that the modern elves will die too. Or they'll be so changed that they're basically dead, culturally speaking. Or tearing down the Fade will cause some weird spirit possession stuff that will turn them literally into different people, but that's a bit of a stretch. What hints? I may have missed something because I don't remember any.
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Post by ellawyn on Sept 4, 2016 23:31:45 GMT
See, I don't believe that really. There'd be no reason to put in all these hints that elves, even modern elves, can survive in a Veil-less world if it the end result weren't "The modern elves are going to be the ones intended to populate Solas' world." What would be the point to it? Otherwise they'd just say that the modern elves die like everyone else. I guess Solas might not be aware of that and believes that the modern elves will die too. Or they'll be so changed that they're basically dead, culturally speaking. Or tearing down the Fade will cause some weird spirit possession stuff that will turn them literally into different people, but that's a bit of a stretch. What hints? I may have missed something because I don't remember any. The Crossroads look different/more vibrant for elves, and in Masked Empire Briala and Felassan say they feel stronger in the Crossroads, while Michel and Celene are weakened (Further supported by Morrigan saying she can't stay in the Crossroads for long with getting sick.) The fact that elves need a world without a Veil (Re: A world closer to the Fade.) to be immortal and strengthen their magic further implies that Fade-ness empowers elves somehow (While being lethal to humans, at least.)
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Post by ladyiolanthe on Sept 5, 2016 0:06:53 GMT
What hints? I may have missed something because I don't remember any. The Crossroads look different/more vibrant for elves, and in Masked Empire Briala and Felassan say they feel stronger in the Crossroads, while Michel and Celene are weakened (Further supported by Morrigan saying she can't stay in the Crossroads for long with getting sick.) The fact that elves need a world without a Veil (Re: A world closer to the Fade.) to be immortal and strengthen their magic further implies that Fade-ness empowers elves somehow (While being lethal to humans, at least.) Well, I didn't miss those; I just didn't take them for hints that modern elves would exist when Solas tears down the Veil. That explains it! My take on those was that we were being told that elves are very closely linked to the Fade (it's part of the reason why I'm a fan of the 'elves are embodied spirits like Cole' theory. Thanks!
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Post by ellawyn on Sept 5, 2016 0:49:23 GMT
The Crossroads look different/more vibrant for elves, and in Masked Empire Briala and Felassan say they feel stronger in the Crossroads, while Michel and Celene are weakened (Further supported by Morrigan saying she can't stay in the Crossroads for long with getting sick.) The fact that elves need a world without a Veil (Re: A world closer to the Fade.) to be immortal and strengthen their magic further implies that Fade-ness empowers elves somehow (While being lethal to humans, at least.) Well, I didn't miss those; I just didn't take them for hints that modern elves would exist when Solas tears down the Veil. That explains it! My take on those was that we were being told that elves are very closely linked to the Fade (it's part of the reason why I'm a fan of the 'elves are embodied spirits like Cole' theory. Thanks! I mean - I guess it is a bit of a leap in logic, since the games never outright say it. (And I don't take any theory for certain until it's outright said.) but to me it seems like that is where it's going. I'm also a fan of the "elves are embodied spirits" theory but I think this is an extension of that - the Fade is the source of magic in the world, and spirits are inherently magical. Taking up a body can provide some lasting defense against the mundane world, but inherently magical creatures like spirits (And subsequently elves, since they're just spirits in a suit.) will eventually weaken and die. They must return to the Fade to rejuvenate - hence why ancient elves did Uthenera, why the most powerful of them could survive solely off of energy drawn in sleep, why modern elves are so much thinner, shorter, and more mortal than the ancient elves. They're being starved of their main energy source. Thus, returning to a state of plenty won't somehow kill them all to a one. It'll empower them to the point where they're as strong as their ancestors. (Mind, that doesn't negate the possibility of something else killing them, like the collapse of modern society as we know it, or the laws of physics deciding they're going to take a lunch break.) It gels with Morrigan's little speech at the Well about how magic is dying and wonders like the Temple will one day all be gone. Because they will be - and so will elves, spirits, mages, dragons, etc. Anything and everything magical will eventually wither (except maybe blood magic and Titans) without the Fade to sustain them. They're embodiments of magic in a world that Solas stripped magic from.
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Post by Nimlowyn on Sept 5, 2016 1:53:41 GMT
So, I was just thinking: how upset would you all be if the way things are handled for DA4, so much time has passed that our Inquisitors are all old? So, they may have worked for decades trying to hunt Solas down or save him from himself, but he's just playing the long game, because he can, and this is how they get out of having the Inquisitor being a playable character in DA4? Solas can come visit romanced Lavellans or befriended Inquisitors on their death beds. Solas gets to feel good because you were able to 'live well while time remains' if you were his friend (and if you can consider spending your entire life trying to stop him to be a life well lived), and he never forgot you if he loved you. But once you're gone, he can put his plan into effect. I hope they don't do that. That would be storytelling at its worst. I don't think they'll do that at all. If they do, I'll eat my shoe!
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Post by morir_a_solas on Sept 5, 2016 2:39:42 GMT
Hey so I just finished DAI for the first time ( I work about 80hrs weeks and it took me over a year to finish all 3 games :s ) and wow I'm so heartbroken! Someone told me to find the blanketfort, I hope there's still room for one more Solas ex-girlfriend
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Post by ladyiolanthe on Sept 5, 2016 2:57:45 GMT
Hey so I just finished DAI for the first time ( I work about 80hrs weeks and it took me over a year to finish all 3 games :s ) and wow I'm so heartbroken! Someone told me to find the blanketfort, I hope there's still room for one more Solas ex-girlfriend Quick! Blankets, pillows, and hot chocolate! Have a seat.
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Post by morir_a_solas on Sept 5, 2016 3:12:41 GMT
Hey so I just finished DAI for the first time ( I work about 80hrs weeks and it took me over a year to finish all 3 games :s ) and wow I'm so heartbroken! Someone told me to find the blanketfort, I hope there's still room for one more Solas ex-girlfriend Quick! Blankets, pillows, and hot chocolate! Have a seat. Thank you! I think I might still be in shock!
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Post by Nimlowyn on Sept 5, 2016 3:18:44 GMT
Hey so I just finished DAI for the first time ( I work about 80hrs weeks and it took me over a year to finish all 3 games :s ) and wow I'm so heartbroken! Someone told me to find the blanketfort, I hope there's still room for one more Solas ex-girlfriend Welcome! We Solas ex-girlfriends need to stick together!
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Post by NightSymphony on Sept 5, 2016 3:33:50 GMT
I will never be an ex-girlfriend! I'm still in denial.
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Post by Theneras on Sept 5, 2016 3:47:27 GMT
It's been nearly a year, I'm still not sure I've recovered.
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Post by Garnet on Sept 5, 2016 3:53:50 GMT
Not ex! Just..um.... long-distance. They're working things out! *team optimism/denial*
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Post by morir_a_solas on Sept 5, 2016 5:04:02 GMT
I will never be an ex-girlfriend! I'm still in denial. Lol that's true! We are not exes, we are just on a break! *joins team optimism*
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Post by LliiraAnna on Sept 5, 2016 5:25:48 GMT
Guys, did you know that there are too many of us? Haha. (to elaborate: there's a blog called "f*** yeah controversial characters" over at tumblr. People submit unjustly hated characters there to be defended by others. And guess whom I found there today?)
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Post by Nimlowyn on Sept 5, 2016 5:46:30 GMT
Wait, what? Sorry, I know it's OT, but I thought Lavellan and Cullen could have an interfaith wedding.
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Post by Amburu on Sept 5, 2016 6:34:24 GMT
I will never be an ex-girlfriend! I'm still in denial. Lol that's true! We are not exes, we are just on a break! *joins team optimism* If we were ex-gfs we wouldn't get the romance achievement at the BREAK UP and stay locked in it, etc They're still together, definitely #optimismforever LliiraAnna are they jealous of grief and sorrow ? Let's trade our romance endings
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Post by Sifr on Sept 5, 2016 7:34:43 GMT
The terrifying moment you realise that being a fan of Solavellan makes you like the Overly Attached Girlfriend;
Solas: We've only ever been on one date... and that was in the Fade. Lavellan: Us together in Haven is all I dream about. Solas: You've always dreamed of making out in a town where everyone died horribly? Lavellan: Only with you, ma vhenan. Solas: Yeah, another thing, please call me Solas. If you were going to use any kind of nickname, I'd prefer "Fen'Harel". Lavellan: Whatever you say, fen'vhenan. Solas: Okay, Lavellan, look... Lavellan: Whatever path you wish to tread, I want to be there, every step of the way! Solas: Wow.. okay, I'm not sure what you think is going on here, but whatever it is, it's wrong. We're not together. Lavellan: Var lath vir suledin...
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Post by forgetmenot on Sept 5, 2016 8:52:02 GMT
So, I was just thinking: how upset would you all be if the way things are handled for DA4, so much time has passed that our Inquisitors are all old? So, they may have worked for decades trying to hunt Solas down or save him from himself, but he's just playing the long game, because he can, and this is how they get out of having the Inquisitor being a playable character in DA4? Solas can come visit romanced Lavellans or befriended Inquisitors on their death beds. Solas gets to feel good because you were able to 'live well while time remains' if you were his friend (and if you can consider spending your entire life trying to stop him to be a life well lived), and he never forgot you if he loved you. But once you're gone, he can put his plan into effect. I hope they don't do that. Nooooooooo! That would break my heart!
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Post by forgetmenot on Sept 5, 2016 8:59:43 GMT
The terrifying moment you realise that being a fan of Solavellan makes you like the Overly Attached Girlfriend;
Solas: We've only ever been on one date... and that was in the Fade. Lavellan: Us together in Haven is all I dream about. Solas: You've always dreamed of making out in a town where everyone died horribly? Lavellan: Only with you, ma vhenan. Solas: Yeah, another thing, please call me Solas. If you were going to use any kind of nickname, I'd prefer "Fen'Harel". Lavellan: Whatever you say, fen'vhenan. Solas: Okay, Lavellan, look... Lavellan: Whatever path you wish to tread, I want to be there, every step of the way! Solas: Wow.. okay, I'm not sure what you think is going on here, but whatever it is, it's wrong. We're not together. Lavellan: Var lath vir suledin... Hahaha love it!
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Post by forgetmenot on Sept 5, 2016 9:11:54 GMT
Hey so I just finished DAI for the first time ( I work about 80hrs weeks and it took me over a year to finish all 3 games :s ) and wow I'm so heartbroken! Someone told me to find the blanketfort, I hope there's still room for one more Solas ex-girlfriend Welcome Lethallan! This hell is fresh for me also.. Its been a week since i finished it and i joined this forum the next day. I still have moments when I'm going about my daily life and then i remember and it hits be all over again. You are safe here. *squeezes hand*
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Post by Solas on Sept 5, 2016 11:09:27 GMT
Hey so I just finished DAI for the first time ( I work about 80hrs weeks and it took me over a year to finish all 3 games :s ) and wow I'm so heartbroken! Someone told me to find the blanketfort, I hope there's still room for one more Solas ex-girlfriend welcome friendo you are safe now
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Post by Feyriane on Sept 5, 2016 11:29:29 GMT
PW definitely said on twitter he wants to give us closure, if he can. Pretty much like "WE WILL SAVE SOLAS........... IF WE CAN." Edit for tweet : Now all we have left to do is hopeTEAM OPTIMISM™ ALL THE WAY Stick in the Mud (hey look, that's me in the tweet!) he wants to give us closure ! and he also said in another tweet that the solas romance could be seen as a hopeful one... i do believe he will give us a choice to have a somewhat happy ending (by that i mean : yeah, happy ending but with huge consequences - let's say - mordin lives but krogans die for example). TEAM OPTIMISM!
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