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Post by SwobyJ on Jan 15, 2018 11:24:48 GMT
Okay, its a stretch, but looking through more of her scenes, I get the vibe that its at least possible.
She just seems like someone more even capable than she seems.
A benefactor can be considered one that aids another, as can a doctor, especially with Lexi's approach. Asari can live long enough to acquire many skillsets.
You also nearly start the game with Lexi, so I'd find it sweet to somewhat 'end' it (post-game perhaps) with the mystery of the Benefactor being Lexi.
Does it diminish 'role' of Benefactor? Uh I guess. But this isn't the same idea as TIM. I can imagine someone using their own means to simply passively support an endeavor, instead of sticking his (TIM) fingers into everything. Maybe she wanted to just be one of the colonists, not a leader or owner.
The big marks against this: 1)There's nothing in particular that points *to* her. 2)Her backstory at least seems sound. 3)Isn't the Benefactor story at least suggested to be darker than whatever Lexi might offer?
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Post by Deleted on Jan 15, 2018 11:38:02 GMT
Well the benefactor is insanely wealthy and kinda evil right?
Lexi has spent her life studying species so there's not much time left for being an evil genius. Plus the other doctor on the Hyperion knows her professionally so it's not as if she's pretending to have had that career. Plus why would the benefactor choose to travel on the Hyperion over the Nexus?
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Post by Dukemon on Jan 15, 2018 13:34:12 GMT
And how she could control the progress on the Nexus that a squad is murdering Jien?
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Post by SwobyJ on Jan 16, 2018 3:10:54 GMT
Well the benefactor is insanely wealthy and kinda evil right? Lexi has spent her life studying species so there's not much time left for being an evil genius. Plus the other doctor on the Hyperion knows her professionally so it's not as if she's pretending to have had that career. Plus why would the benefactor choose to travel on the Hyperion over the Nexus? I'd like some clarification - what do we have that the Benefactor is evil? Is it the Jien thing? If you look at the lines and between the lines, could that stuff be taken another way? I'm curious; I didn't read the books.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 16, 2018 10:34:47 GMT
Well the benefactor is insanely wealthy and kinda evil right? Lexi has spent her life studying species so there's not much time left for being an evil genius. Plus the other doctor on the Hyperion knows her professionally so it's not as if she's pretending to have had that career. Plus why would the benefactor choose to travel on the Hyperion over the Nexus? I'd like some clarification - what do we have that the Benefactor is evil? Is it the Jien thing? If you look at the lines and between the lines, could that stuff be taken another way? I'm curious; I didn't read the books. I took it that Jian was a pawn. The way she talked about the benefactor in her secret messages gave me the impression she was scared of him, and regretted letting him in on the project. Also this is ME, a world with Cerberus, the Shadow Broker and evil organisations and powerful bastards running everything. I just assumed they were going in that direction again.
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Post by The Biotic Trebuchet on Jan 16, 2018 21:35:13 GMT
I bet 40 credits that the Benefactor is a Salarian, Those pyjacks have minds like a maze...
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Post by SwobyJ on Jan 17, 2018 4:50:38 GMT
I'd like some clarification - what do we have that the Benefactor is evil? Is it the Jien thing? If you look at the lines and between the lines, could that stuff be taken another way? I'm curious; I didn't read the books. I took it that Jian was a pawn. The way she talked about the benefactor in her secret messages gave me the impression she was scared of him, and regretted letting him in on the project. Also this is ME, a world with Cerberus, the Shadow Broker and evil organisations and powerful bastards running everything. I just assumed they were going in that direction again. See I was actually going the opposite; that those from the Milky Way may be problematic, even still with scummy qualities and people of course, but that the story of the Ai is one which ultimately is going to be better morally than where it came from (though perhaps not as necessarily heroic in the end as the best the MW had to offer, but that's another subject). So its actually intriguing to me thinking that Lexi is Benefactor. The surprise being that it actually is just a benefactor, albeit with the reveal that our doctor may at least be involved in arguably shady things of her own - its all, to her, on the 'up and up'. No 'shadows', just helping in her way. Its how I feel about all the rest at least. Yeah we have Kadara, but its no Omega. Yeah we have New Tuchanka, but its no Tuchanka. Yeah we have the Nexus, but its no Citadel. Yeah we have Tann and co., but its no Council or Udina. Its the fresh start, which both means that its never totally fresh (the past trails with us) but its an attempt at an improved (in this case ethically) renewal. I like thinking that Lexi as the Benefactor could represent even the worst of the Asari, improved - that yes its a secret kept and some superior-minded manipulation, but we know Lexi and we'd end up knowing that its all for the greater good, but also a safer good (for example, what if Lexi just stays low because she already knows of the killing of Jien, and it wasn't done by her, but instead Lexi is worried she might be a target herself, if her identity is uncovered). K, getting kinda fanfiction here, but eh.
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Post by dmc1001 on Jan 31, 2018 5:41:59 GMT
Not just the MB, but cloned herself like crazy so that no one could ever point to her directly as being both the MB and the Jien Garson's assassin. That's how the asari clones go from major screw up to plot point.
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Post by sjsharp2010 on Feb 8, 2018 15:13:29 GMT
TBH I think the most likely candidate for Benefactor could possibly be Reyes. He is the Charlatan and it wouldn't surprise me if that's not all as he was a kind of guy that played his cards close to his chest really. He's also ironically good at getting things people need and getting things done on the sly.
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Post by dmc1001 on Feb 11, 2018 8:10:25 GMT
Actually, I'm still banking on the Jardaan being the Benefactor(s) and secretly came to the MW and convinced Jien Garson to send an expedition to Andromeda. I stand by that until DLC or MEA2 proves me wrong.
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Post by Element Zero on May 20, 2018 21:32:10 GMT
It’s the Geth. Their sustained, small-scale credit-skimming of trillions of souls funded the Ai. They provided the visuals that made Garson fully commit. They knew for a certainty that there were good reasons to get out of the MW.
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Post by themikefest on May 21, 2018 18:56:55 GMT
Its the refund guy.
In the year 2170, a guy approached a vendor on the Citadel with the idea to get a refund for a product he didn't purchase if he was able to moan and groan enough. It worked. After a couple of years, he decided to hire others to do the same. By the mid 2170's he had hundreds of refund guys working for him. In 2178, he founded the Refund Guy Corporation. Over the next few years, the corporation took in billions of credits from refunds. When Big Boss Refund Guy was having lunch with a friend, he learned that a Jein Garson was planning a trip to Andromeda to do some sightseeing, but was running low on resources. He decided to help her out. At this time, it's unknown if Big Boss refund guy made the trip to Andromeda or not, but a few of his workers did make the trip.
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Post by Element Zero on May 21, 2018 19:28:44 GMT
Its the refund guy. In the year 2170, a guy approached a vendor on the Citadel with the idea to get a refund for a product he didn't purchase if he was able to moan and groan enough. It worked. After a couple of years, he decided to hire others to do the same. By the mid 2170's he had hundreds of refund guys working for him. In 2178, he founded the Refund Guy Corporation. Over the next few years, the corporation took in billions of credits from refunds. When Big Boss Refund Guy was having lunch with a friend, he learned that a Jein Garson was planning a trip to Andromeda to do some sightseeing, but was running low on resources. He decided to help her out. At this time, it's unknown if Big Boss refund guy made the trip to Andromeda or not, but a few of his workers did make the trip. I feel kind of guilty, now, that I helped that Refund Guy in ME3. What was I enabling?
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Post by SwobyJ on May 22, 2018 2:59:26 GMT
Geth are my top choice.
But I still haven't let go of Lexi as a valid possibility.
Bits like her affinity for krogan (thus them coming along), totally-not-elitist-but-elitist lines, and almost supernatural multitasking just encourage this.
But of course, rationally, I wouldn't *expect* it.
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Post by flyingsquirrel on May 25, 2018 15:07:39 GMT
Its the refund guy. In the year 2170, a guy approached a vendor on the Citadel with the idea to get a refund for a product he didn't purchase if he was able to moan and groan enough. It worked. After a couple of years, he decided to hire others to do the same. By the mid 2170's he had hundreds of refund guys working for him. In 2178, he founded the Refund Guy Corporation. Over the next few years, the corporation took in billions of credits from refunds. When Big Boss Refund Guy was having lunch with a friend, he learned that a Jein Garson was planning a trip to Andromeda to do some sightseeing, but was running low on resources. He decided to help her out. At this time, it's unknown if Big Boss refund guy made the trip to Andromeda or not, but a few of his workers did make the trip. I feel kind of guilty, now, that I helped that Refund Guy in ME3. What was I enabling? Maybe it was the "Aria's expecting me" guy from Omega. His experience turned him into an anti-elcor racist, so he wanted to go to Andromeda to get away from the elcor and hopefully find a nightclub somewhere that will let him in.
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Post by HYR on Jun 15, 2018 2:57:09 GMT
TIM did it!
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Post by ropedrink on Aug 8, 2018 19:24:51 GMT
I'm still holding on to the ridiculously small and predictable assumption that it's someone like Tann, even if that would be wayyy too obvious/silly. I don't think the Benefactor is an arc designed to play-out as a grand-reveal-reference to the old games eg. Geth, TIM, Cerberus etc -Tann plays up the whole Jien murder, making it out like he could never be like her - charismatic, eccentric etc. Sounds to me more like she was a good pawn.
-Tann was an accountant - helps to understand money given that's the driving force behind the Benefactor. He's not exactly in-depth with his past - all we're told is that accountancy was a 'diversion' before the Initiative. That could easily translate as 'not actually accounting but having LOTS and LOTS of money', accountant being a front.
-Tann hates Krogans. This could be a front for his part in the uprising. Easier to blame past tensions than to explain it was all an elaborate plan for dissension in the ranks of the Nexus to facilitate further rise in power on the side.
-Tann is playing puppet-master with all the sub-leaders... Or at least trying to. Being 8th in line could have been a sweet spot to plot it out from - not too suspicious compared to, say, being No.2 in line and No.1 dying as soon as they reach Andromeda. Cue a 'catastrophe' and, oh no, seems I'm the leader now. Good thing you don't suspect me, eh? Such a shame about Jien. She clearly wasn't assassinated or anything, oh no. Between Jien, the uprising, trying to get you to side with him over the other leaders etc, it's all terribly convenient.
-Tann is very quick to remind you that you 'need friends like him' and 'I can help you, if you let me'. Don't see why he'd want to keep the Pathfinder that close without understanding of the power of SAM (ie. benefactor funding the project) - he'd have more guarantee of success with that kind of understanding and would be able to make a much more calculated bet rather than 'placing bets on people is part of my job' - 'I've decided to give you a chance'. It's not like you're going to bank on Joe Soap Pathfinder as a power-play without some kind of inkling. Sara/Scott could have just as easily failed otherwise.
-Tann just happens to be able to spare the best ship on the market and has the best crew at hand for the job, all for you.
-Nothing that happens in Andromeda goes by without him knowing about it. Just helps to be at the top of the driving force behind most of those changes.
The list goes on. Naturally, I recognize this as a predictable (and likely incorrect) choice, but again, I can't see it being a reference to the past games, especially now that new content seems less and less likely for this particular game. If it gets revisited, will probably be kept smaller/andromeda in-house rather than a throwback.
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Post by Son of Dorn on Aug 8, 2018 19:29:31 GMT
You are all wrong.
It's the shifty looking space cow!
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Post by Phantom on Mar 9, 2020 0:40:14 GMT
This is my headcanon that Lexi is a member of the Benefactor and she knows whom are other members of this organization.
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Mar 9, 2020 0:55:11 GMT
Also if Lexi was the Benefactor, and the Benefactor wanted to kill those who knew about them, Alec Ryder would have never woken up but had a ‘malfunction’ as Lexi was ‘reviving’ him. This theory is still ridiculous.
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Post by Phantom on Mar 9, 2020 1:02:06 GMT
Also if Lexi was the Benefactor, and the Benefactor wanted to kill those who knew about them, Alec Ryder would have never woken up but had a ‘malfunction’ as Lexi was ‘reviving’ him. This theory is still ridiculous. good point. there are a lot of unknowns that are tied to Benefactor
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Post by explorerclass on Dec 11, 2020 23:39:51 GMT
I really don’t think so but you know..her attitude toward SAM would make sense this way. Fear of AI, especially one who could have some connection to her. And her insistence that she monitors the pathfinder instead of letting Henry take his spot on the ship.
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Dec 19, 2020 11:53:40 GMT
I really don’t think so but you know..her attitude toward SAM would make sense this way. Fear of AI, especially one who could have some connection to her. And her insistence that she monitors the pathfinder instead of letting Henry take his spot on the ship. Actually Henry gave it up to Lexi because he realized she had gotten the best of him. She was very nervous about being in the field at the beginning, her getting used to it being part of her growth.
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