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Post by hulluliini on Jan 25, 2021 7:12:41 GMT
If the Andromeda galaxy is involved, I hope they discuss colonialist themes in more depth.
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Post by helios969 on Feb 1, 2021 9:59:12 GMT
I agree although I did not mis that annoying banshee scream from ME3. Ah, man I loved that sound...immediately put the hackles up...quickly panning around to track the b*tches progress.
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Post by helios969 on Feb 1, 2021 10:12:15 GMT
From what I gathered - with no guarantee of completeness: - Liara may be old - or may be not
- The Geth might be back with a Superstructure - or not
- Stuff might mean something, or probably not
Oh, and about two pages or so of 'Shepard is back' - 'No' - 'Absolutely not' I think Liara is older but it doesn't necessarily mean anything in regard to timeline. That could be a prologue of sorts in which she's out on one of her digs, finds the piece of N7 helmet which triggers a flashback and start to new game. I don't think the Alderson disk has anything to do with the Geth...simply because of the order in which it appears in the montage and the fact that the Geth haven't been around long enough to build something on that scale. Stuff certainly means something...but it's all guesswork at this point. Oh, and Shepard most certainly could be back. Yes, definitely yes. 
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Post by dmc1001 on Feb 1, 2021 17:30:40 GMT
I think Liara is older but it doesn't necessarily mean anything in regard to timeline. That could be a prologue of sorts in which she's out on one of her digs, finds the piece of N7 helmet which triggers a flashback and start to new game. I'm going to pretend this is what's going to happen until BW eventually dashes my dreams.
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Post by ahglock on Feb 1, 2021 17:42:17 GMT
From what I gathered - with no guarantee of completeness: - Liara may be old - or may be not
- The Geth might be back with a Superstructure - or not
- Stuff might mean something, or probably not
Oh, and about two pages or so of 'Shepard is back' - 'No' - 'Absolutely not' I think Liara is older but it doesn't necessarily mean anything in regard to timeline. That could be a prologue of sorts in which she's out on one of her digs, finds the piece of N7 helmet which triggers a flashback and start to new game. I don't think the Alderson disk has anything to do with the Geth...simply because of the order in which it appears in the montage and the fact that the Geth haven't been around long enough to build something on that scale. Stuff certainly means something...but it's all guesswork at this point. Oh, and Shepard most certainly could be back. Yes, definitely yes. 
My eyes suck, as the Alderson disk people keep talking about just looks like generic asteroid field planetary rings imagery to me. Like I did not see a structure, its just grey with lines. Is their some super 4k blown up image of it that shows more.
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Post by garrusfan1 on Feb 1, 2021 19:59:14 GMT
I think Liara is older but it doesn't necessarily mean anything in regard to timeline. That could be a prologue of sorts in which she's out on one of her digs, finds the piece of N7 helmet which triggers a flashback and start to new game. I don't think the Alderson disk has anything to do with the Geth...simply because of the order in which it appears in the montage and the fact that the Geth haven't been around long enough to build something on that scale. Stuff certainly means something...but it's all guesswork at this point. Oh, and Shepard most certainly could be back. Yes, definitely yes. 
My eyes suck, as the Alderson disk people keep talking about just looks like generic asteroid field planetary rings imagery to me. Like I did not see a structure, its just grey with lines. Is their some super 4k blown up image of it that shows more.
Yeah I missed it too. To be honest I think people are reading WAY too much into a vague trailer.
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Post by garrusfan1 on Feb 1, 2021 20:01:00 GMT
If the Andromeda galaxy is involved, I hope they discuss colonialist themes in more depth. Only if we can become like king leopold. A man too brutal even during colonial times. Just kidding about that but if you mean the exploration and such of new planets then sure.
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Post by helios969 on Feb 1, 2021 20:14:43 GMT
I think Liara is older but it doesn't necessarily mean anything in regard to timeline. That could be a prologue of sorts in which she's out on one of her digs, finds the piece of N7 helmet which triggers a flashback and start to new game. I don't think the Alderson disk has anything to do with the Geth...simply because of the order in which it appears in the montage and the fact that the Geth haven't been around long enough to build something on that scale. Stuff certainly means something...but it's all guesswork at this point. Oh, and Shepard most certainly could be back. Yes, definitely yes. 
My eyes suck, as the Alderson disk people keep talking about just looks like generic asteroid field planetary rings imagery to me. Like I did not see a structure, its just grey with lines. Is their some super 4k blown up image of it that shows more.
Upon further review you could be correct...close inspection of the highest res I could find does not reveal anything especially artificial in the ring. However looking at it from afar and the way the ring is distributed in orbit around the sun looks unnatural in and of itself. If the artist was attempting to represent a newly forming star system they're mistaken in its portrayal...so this could be why it's being interpreted as an Alderson disk. Besides it's more fun to speculate that some ancient race was able to create such a marvel.
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Feb 2, 2021 16:58:25 GMT
So, what about the future of the Mass Effect, I ask? Will there be hints to it in the Legendary Edition, even just the odd note left lying around pointing to a future plotline? No, is the short answer. "I think it's easier for the future of the franchise to look back and take from that," Walters concludes, "than for us to try to set a course for something that needs time to ideate, and flourish on its own."www.eurogamer.net/articles/2021-02-02-mass-effect-returns-bioware-talks-trilogy-tweaks-and-franchise-revivalNot sure what to make of this. But it puts the whole "MELE setting up ME5" thing to bed.
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Post by garo on Feb 2, 2021 17:10:06 GMT
So, what about the future of the Mass Effect, I ask? Will there be hints to it in the Legendary Edition, even just the odd note left lying around pointing to a future plotline? No, is the short answer. "I think it's easier for the future of the franchise to look back and take from that," Walters concludes, "than for us to try to set a course for something that needs time to ideate, and flourish on its own."www.eurogamer.net/articles/2021-02-02-mass-effect-returns-bioware-talks-trilogy-tweaks-and-franchise-revivalNot sure what to make of this. But it puts the whole "MELE setting up ME5" thing to bed.
Missed opportunity tbh
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Feb 2, 2021 17:12:03 GMT
So, what about the future of the Mass Effect, I ask? Will there be hints to it in the Legendary Edition, even just the odd note left lying around pointing to a future plotline? No, is the short answer. "I think it's easier for the future of the franchise to look back and take from that," Walters concludes, "than for us to try to set a course for something that needs time to ideate, and flourish on its own."www.eurogamer.net/articles/2021-02-02-mass-effect-returns-bioware-talks-trilogy-tweaks-and-franchise-revivalNot sure what to make of this. But it puts the whole "MELE setting up ME5" thing to bed.
Missed opportunity tbh
Not really. Considering everyone thinks ME5 will take place long after. It's not like World War 2 was being set up in the 1500s. I'm more worried about the whole "We're looking back, not forward, for what to do with the franchise" thing that Mac is seemingly saying. Unless I'm misreading that.
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Post by biggydx on Feb 2, 2021 17:50:01 GMT
Not really. Considering everyone thinks ME5 will take place long after. It's not like World War 2 was being set up in the 1500s. I'm more worried about the whole "We're looking back, not forward, for what to do with the franchise" thing that Mac is seemingly saying. Unless I'm misreading that. What has you worried exactly?
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Feb 2, 2021 17:51:45 GMT
Not really. Considering everyone thinks ME5 will take place long after. It's not like World War 2 was being set up in the 1500s. I'm more worried about the whole "We're looking back, not forward, for what to do with the franchise" thing that Mac is seemingly saying. Unless I'm misreading that. What has you worried exactly? Well, it just seemed like for example that quote fits the whole bringing Shepard back theory instead of moving forward with the stuff they started or even newer things.
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Post by themikefest on Feb 2, 2021 18:46:56 GMT
What has you worried exactly? Well, it just seemed like for example that quote fits the whole bringing Shepard back theory instead of moving forward with the stuff they started or even newer things. Explain why bringing back Shepard, if that happens, wouldn't be moving forward?
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Post by jclosed on Feb 2, 2021 18:47:15 GMT
What has you worried exactly? Well, it just seemed like for example that quote fits the whole bringing Shepard back theory instead of moving forward with the stuff they started or even newer things. Ugh! Please let it not be true. If they revive that old stinking corpse AGAIN, I personally going to puke. I pray there will be a brand new Shepard-less story years after he/she/it has turned into unrecoverable dirt, or a continuation of the Andromeda story. Anything else, and it will be a hard pass for me...
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Post by biggydx on Feb 2, 2021 18:47:22 GMT
What has you worried exactly? Well, it just seemed like for example that quote fits the whole bringing Shepard back theory instead of moving forward with the stuff they started or even newer things. Oh. I just took it to mean an evaluation of what people liked/disliked.
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Post by ahglock on Feb 2, 2021 18:49:15 GMT
Well, it just seemed like for example that quote fits the whole bringing Shepard back theory instead of moving forward with the stuff they started or even newer things. Oh. I just took it to mean an evaluation of what people liked/disliked. Same.
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Post by burningcherry on Feb 2, 2021 19:05:27 GMT
After some thinking, maybe not touching the endings in LE is meant to in fact justify going with one in the "look, we just released the remaster and it has your ending, we simply follow only one version" manner.
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Post by Antibaar on Feb 2, 2021 19:53:50 GMT
From the trailer,I only see Destroy ending,the Citadel been destroyed by red beam,and Normandy followed by the red beam,even Shepard is Renegade in Tali's scene.Why not,green or blue?
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From the trailer,I only see Destroy ending,the Citadel been destroyed by red beam,and Normandy followed by the red beam,even Shepard is Renegade in Tali's scene.Why not,green or blue? The red beam in the MEL trailer combined with the dead reapers in the ME4 trailer does suggest that BioWare did canonize destroy. Many wanted to debate it with the ME4 trailer, but now it's practically a given. I may be wrong on this though, but I always thought femshep was canonized renegade while maleshep was canonized paragon? Makes sense to me as Hale does amazing with renegade script, while Sheploo's insanely gorgeous blue eyes always felt paragonish. Meer also does amazing with the calm but authoritative voice.
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Post by ahglock on Feb 6, 2021 15:41:49 GMT
From the trailer,I only see Destroy ending,the Citadel been destroyed by red beam,and Normandy followed by the red beam,even Shepard is Renegade in Tali's scene.Why not,green or blue? The red beam in the MEL trailer combined with the dead reapers in the ME4 trailer does suggest that BioWare did canonize destroy. Many wanted to debate it with the ME4 trailer, but now it's practically a given. I may be wrong on this though, but I always thought femshep was canonized renegade while maleshep was canonized paragon? Makes sense to me as Hale does amazing with renegade script, while Sheploo's insanely gorgeous blue eyes always felt paragonish. Meer also does amazing with the calm but authoritative voice. What's funny is I always felt the reverse. Her renegade just sounded unhinged his had more of a calm menace. Her paragon sounded more caring, while yes his was calm and authoritative.
Edit to add, there were a couple scenes where meer went off the rials with renegade though.
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Feb 7, 2021 5:31:17 GMT
From the trailer,I only see Destroy ending,the Citadel been destroyed by red beam,and Normandy followed by the red beam,even Shepard is Renegade in Tali's scene.Why not,green or blue? The red beam in the MEL trailer combined with the dead reapers in the ME4 trailer does suggest that BioWare did canonize destroy. Many wanted to debate it with the ME4 trailer, but now it's practically a given. You can still debate it easily. I wouldn’t take anything from the LE trailer as this is canon. For example I doubt the Quarians will be made canonically extinct, yet the trailer shows Tali killing her self as her people are wiped out. No doubt the LE will trigger the ending debate again, so I hope BioWare at least addresses how ME5 will handle that.
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Post by themikefest on Feb 7, 2021 12:09:50 GMT
For example I doubt the Quarians will be made canonically extinct, yet the trailer shows Tali killing her self as her people are wiped out. Another moment an interrupt would have been useful. I know there's one to try to stop her, but I mean to help push her off. Why? Because the stupid quarian stood there with her whatever up her fifth-point-of-contact while the geth uploaded the code. All she had to do was push the thing off the cliff, or use her knife in the back of the head thing. She sure is quick on the draw to deal with the geth, if her species is chosen over the geth. The remaster will trigger a lot of things. It will be interesting how Bioware handles it in ME4.
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