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Post by themikefest on Feb 20, 2021 3:35:38 GMT
It looks more like the asari flailing after being thrown out the airlock by Javik. This reminds me that they never canonized how long protheans live. Perhaps he is still alive. Maybe he even rules all the Primitives in the galaxy with an iron fist by this point, having eliminated all rivals via judicious application of airlock. I would buy that game. What happens after ME3 is he teaches the asari more about themselves. Eventually the asari make him a god. Statues of Javik the Great are built all over Thessia. The phrases 'by the goddess' and 'embrace eternity' are changed to 'by the prothean' and 'embrace Javik'. Thessia is renamed to Prothia.
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Post by Phantom on Feb 20, 2021 4:44:41 GMT
Alien PC's is all I want. If it's another "I'M ONLY HUMAN" nonsense then I'm dropping this game. I gave Andromeda a pass (which was a mistake) because I had an itch for more Mass Effect but no more. well If we down the Alien PC route, I want a well written one. I would give Bioware my Turian C-Sec Agent idea to use. There is a Volus Infiltrator I would love to see. Side note: there is a trio of Vorcha that would be a comedy if done well.
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Post by Radec on Feb 20, 2021 15:14:55 GMT
This reminds me that they never canonized how long protheans live. Perhaps he is still alive. Maybe he even rules all the Primitives in the galaxy with an iron fist by this point, having eliminated all rivals via judicious application of airlock. I would buy that game. What happens after ME3 is he teaches the asari more about themselves. Eventually the asari make him a god. Statues of Javik the Great are built all over Thessia. The phrases 'by the goddess' and 'embrace eternity' are changed to 'by the prothean' and 'embrace Javik'. Thessia is renamed to Prothia. Bioware pls Can't stop won't stop
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Post by dmc1001 on Feb 21, 2021 17:13:54 GMT
Alien PC's is all I want. If it's another "I'M ONLY HUMAN" nonsense then I'm dropping this game. I gave Andromeda a pass (which was a mistake) because I had an itch for more Mass Effect but no more. You probably should drop it because it's almost guaranteed to be a human protagonist. For me, if that weren't the case I wouldn't buy it.
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Post by dmc1001 on Feb 21, 2021 17:16:25 GMT
It looks more like the asari flailing after being thrown out the airlock by Javik. This reminds me that they never canonized how long protheans live. Perhaps he is still alive. Maybe he even rules all the Primitives in the galaxy with an iron fist by this point, having eliminated all rivals via judicious application of airlock. I would buy that game. That's an interesting thought about Javik. They created the asari. It's not that far-fetched that they wouldn't create a race more powerful and longer-lived than themselves. They fully intended to return and reclaim the galaxy. It would be hard to do if a superior life form existed.
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Post by dmc1001 on Feb 21, 2021 17:24:42 GMT
I'm gonna say they work on the game for a year or a year and a half. They might have talked to her even if they're far from the va. Their track record says otherwise, they "work" on it for 3 years, EA says dude is the game coming any time soon, they then start from scratch because their work was basically bullshitting around the water cooler for the last 3 years, and then make a game in 18 months. "Procedurally generated worlds". They went to that, then scrapped it entirely, and then rushed to make something new. I wonder if they created the new worlds first and then spent time working on the characters. It's no secret that I enjoyed MEA. I think I might have liked it if the AI arrived to the "paradise" they expected but then had the kett arrive and screw things up. That would have been more in line with the promotional materials.
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Post by ahglock on Feb 21, 2021 18:10:59 GMT
Their track record says otherwise, they "work" on it for 3 years, EA says dude is the game coming any time soon, they then start from scratch because their work was basically bullshitting around the water cooler for the last 3 years, and then make a game in 18 months. "Procedurally generated worlds". They went to that, then scrapped it entirely, and then rushed to make something new. I wonder if they created the new worlds first and then spent time working on the characters. It's no secret that I enjoyed MEA. I think I might have liked it if the AI arrived to the "paradise" they expected but then had the kett arrive and screw things up. That would have been more in line with the promotional materials. I didn't hate it like many here. I just don't like ryder and the crew. The story was okay, the game play was mostly solid, but I think they made some big errors in the basic set up. If the kett arrived later that would be better, but just the core we showed up after the nexus part was bad, they keep saying how hard it is to set up a outpost, but then the krogans and the outcasts set up successful outposts with less resources with no problems whatsoever.
and even when we set up outposts the why it now works made very little sense. On Eos it was the kett ending their outposts not the radiation, yeah handling the radiation will make a thriving outpost easier, but its really the kett we have to worry about, on voeld being warmer is good I guess but its still a ice cube so I suspect we could have set one up thier without the vault as well, its just getting permission by saving whatsherface that wed probably need, Kadara again what we really need is the permission of outcasts, the vault is nice but we can make filters. Yet they always put the focus on the vault, as that is the one thing only ryder can do. But it really doesn't matter for setting up the initial outpost and only matters for long term growth. And honestly the vaults just kept getting lamer each planet, heck one of them was almost just a single room.
They kept trying to tell us one story but they showed us another.
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Feb 21, 2021 18:17:09 GMT
This reminds me that they never canonized how long protheans live. Perhaps he is still alive. Maybe he even rules all the Primitives in the galaxy with an iron fist by this point, having eliminated all rivals via judicious application of airlock. I would buy that game. That's an interesting thought about Javik. They created the asari. It's not that far-fetched that they wouldn't create a race more powerful and longer-lived than themselves. They fully intended to return and reclaim the galaxy. It would be hard to do if a superior life form existed. The Protheans didn’t create the Asari. They just advanced them since they saw them as worthy additions to the Empire and eventually the best hope for this cycle.
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Post by Radec on Feb 21, 2021 21:08:50 GMT
probably just default to this from now on saves time when the response is going to be angery off topic gibberish regardless of what arguments I make. But then expecting literally any critical thinking ability to be expressed from an entity that spews low IQ troll takes like this is probably a fool's errand. So I do apologize to everyone else for encouraging it to flood the forum with utter nonsense.
I do have to say the irony continues to build as you call me a troll as you refuse to actually lay out the specific requirements that would be needed to actually change your mind. Are you that afraid that giving specific requirements and burdens of proof?
Even when I don't even address the story this retard posits to strawman my motivations and insert fanfiction of me being "afraid" of it. I'll flat out say it, you are a moron and you don't actually understand how stories work bud. You've demonstrated that quite clearly with classics like "the only point of stories is drama" and "fanfiction is actually good most of the time". Micheal Bay and M. Night Shyamalan love rubes like you ME3 is like the easiest litmus test in the world of being able to identify writer self indulgence at the expense of the previously established setting, characters themes and audience. It's just a hack throwing in his self insert GMPCs (Star brat, Kai leng, Cerberus in general) who all read the script in advance. The hack writer then uses them to Smugly inform the audience how great he is, as his toys regurgitate intellectually barren cliches he heard in other (bettter) works, while the plot trundles along due to the inexplicable magic known as writer fiat. ME3 is simply asking the most self absorbed DM you've ever met to make a game. Picking out elements in it that actually do make sense is difficult. If you don't know why it's bad.....well, your IQ is probably around the same as your shoe size. The premise is broke-brained, and the antagonist already had access to the means to resolve the plot long before the story even began. You can't fanfic your way around that.
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Post by Radec on Feb 22, 2021 3:27:03 GMT
I didn't actually say the only point of stories is for the drama. You complained about a single line being overly dramatic and I pointed out that action movies are intentionally dramatic because they are action movies. hey, idiot 5. Literally the point of every thing in an action video game or movie is to be dramatic. Yeah you did. You said that. That room temperature IQ shit above. That was you. I don't know what the hell is supposed to be dramatic about talking to a weird robot space alien about the abstract ethical and philosophical differences between forcibly reprogramming and outright killing networked synthetic intelligences in a weird Trek/BSG/B5/Dune/H.P. Lovecraft homage video game series but it's technically in an action-adventure game, and I enjoyed that part far more than any of the "dramatic" big dumb setpiece cutscenes with the plot armored one liner spouting cyborg ninja in ME3. That is, until ME3 retconned and ruined that story about the weird robots in the name of lazy, banal, meaningless, unearned, cheap pathos ("drama" if you prefer) like it did with almost everything else. Hey, lets move over to Star Wars. You know, the action adventure series where the best regarded one has half the runtime spent with the protagonist waxing philosophical with a little green frog dude to build the setting, its lore, and the series' overall themes. Meanwhile the worst ones everyone except fanboys hate are 90% composed of meaningless seizure inducing CGI space battles, impractical lazorsword fights and hollow nostalgia pandering designed to sell toys to tiny drooling babies (or big man babies of similar intellectutal capacity). But then you probably are one of those which is why you don't get why 3 (or post OT SW) is bad. It had the little clicky robots and the big scary robots shooting lazors and robo zombies and fast spaceships and comandurr shepard just like the other ones. Its literally the same thing!
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Post by alanc9 on Feb 23, 2021 22:27:36 GMT
On a related note, I was always convinced that the asari are so preposterous that they have to be a designed species rather than one which evolved naturally. So on my first ME3 playthrough, sometime around the Thessia mission, I cooked up the idea that the asari had been engineered specifically to control the Crucible. And so the Catalyst was going to be... but you've all guessed it already, of course. Liara is basically Edith Keeler, and all of the MET is leading up to her inevitable death; after the occupation of most of asari space, she'll just happen to be the only available candidate.. (And of course, Benezia knew all about this possibility the whole time, which is why she got involved with Saren in the first place.)
Imagine how that would have gone over. On the DA boards we still have people who haven't gotten over Alistair dumping their Warden when he becomes king.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 24, 2021 0:12:00 GMT
Both NME and DA4 are probably safe. Great hopes back in 2018 for Anthem didn't pan out. Perversely, Anthem's poor performance may have given BioWare more free space to focus on their RPG story telling and less fixation on GAAS such as is the case with Anthem. I'm guessing both DA4 and NME will have a MP aspect, but separate and distinct from the SP experience … like DAI and MEA. My hope for both is that the developer tools for FB may finally be mature enough that working in FB is not some hellish nightmare, but can still yield a beautiful game, with a great story for BioWare to tell. Yeah, yeah, I know, I'll go put my rose colored glasses back in their case.
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Post by N7Pathfinder on Feb 24, 2021 0:14:03 GMT
Both NME and DA4 are probably safe. Great hopes back in 2018 for Anthem didn't pan out. Perversely, Anthem's poor performance may have given BioWare more free space to focus on their RPG story telling and less fixation on GAAS such as is the case with Anthem. I'm guessing both DA4 and NME will have a MP aspect, but separate and distinct from the SP experience … like DAI and MEA. My hope for both is that the developer tools for FB may finally be mature enough that working in FB is not some hellish nightmare, but can still yield a beautiful game, with a great story for BioWare to tell. Yeah, yeah, I know, I'll go put my rose colored glasses back in their case. Let's hope that's the case.
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Post by SirSourpuss on Feb 24, 2021 22:47:51 GMT
Both NME and DA4 are probably safe. Great hopes back in 2018 for Anthem didn't pan out. Perversely, Anthem's poor performance may have given BioWare more free space to focus on their RPG story telling and less fixation on GAAS such as is the case with Anthem. I'm guessing both DA4 and NME will have a MP aspect, but separate and distinct from the SP experience … like DAI and MEA. My hope for both is that the developer tools for FB may finally be mature enough that working in FB is not some hellish nightmare, but can still yield a beautiful game, with a great story for BioWare to tell. Yeah, yeah, I know, I'll go put my rose colored glasses back in their case. Actually, it could, instead, drive EA's push for a GaaS hit even harder, seeking to make all future Bioware products GaaS, until they finally make one out of them, no matter the cost, even if it is the closure of the studio.
However, the numerous lawsuits and country bans on lootboxes have deterred EA's predatory practices from "traditional" gaming segments, i.e. non-sports titles.
EA's ideal and next big bet, which they've partially already lost, is former Origin Access, now EA Play. They don't really care about game sales anymore, so much as building a subscriber base. For the time being, they are happy getting a piece of the pie out of Game Pass, but they are hoping to get more out of it. Especially since it helps them just not talk about game sales.
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Post by biggydx on Feb 25, 2021 5:13:47 GMT
Both NME and DA4 are probably safe. Great hopes back in 2018 for Anthem didn't pan out. Perversely, Anthem's poor performance may have given BioWare more free space to focus on their RPG story telling and less fixation on GAAS such as is the case with Anthem. I'm guessing both DA4 and NME will have a MP aspect, but separate and distinct from the SP experience … like DAI and MEA. My hope for both is that the developer tools for FB may finally be mature enough that working in FB is not some hellish nightmare, but can still yield a beautiful game, with a great story for BioWare to tell. Yeah, yeah, I know, I'll go put my rose colored glasses back in their case. Actually, it could, instead, drive EA's push for a GaaS hit even harder, seeking to make all future Bioware products GaaS, until they finally make one out of them, no matter the cost, even if it is the closure of the studio.
However, the numerous lawsuits and country bans on lootboxes have deterred EA's predatory practices from "traditional" gaming segments, i.e. non-sports titles.
EA's ideal and next big bet, which they've partially already lost, is former Origin Access, now EA Play. They don't really care about game sales anymore, so much as building a subscriber base. For the time being, they are happy getting a piece of the pie out of Game Pass, but they are hoping to get more out of it. Especially since it helps them just not talk about game sales.
I'd argue that it would be pretty stupid on EA's part to force those titles to be GaaS. They're better off leaving them as live service, which - for sizable number of fans - is already a bridge too far. GaaS can't survive if you don't have the whole studio solely dedicated to the project. EA forcing BioWare into only making one game into maybe a successful GaaS title, while sacrificing the other IP's, would just be tons of potential revenue thrown down the drain. EA's already shown that they aren't willing to devote the resources to propping up a new GaaS installment, so I don't see why they'd want to go full steam ahead in basically axing multiple -potential - recurring revenue sources.
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Post by Ascend on Feb 26, 2021 12:36:25 GMT
Maybe they will learn after all... There is a sliver of hope that BioWare can find itself back. All they have to do now is leave the 'woke' nonsense behind.
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Post by jclosed on Feb 27, 2021 8:31:28 GMT
Well - At least this news, if it is true, gives me some hope for Dragon Age. As long as they don't fall for the "Game As A Service" trap, and deliver a half-bake product with the "promise" it will be great later on!
Strange that the future Mass Effect game is not mentioned in this tweet. That makes me worry for the next Mass Effect game. Will they use the "core" gameplay of Anthem for the next Mass Effect? I certainly hope that's not the case, but I can see they can cut corners here by using the Anthem Next development, change some assets and plaster Mass Effect over it. Well - Time will tell...
Anyway, I am slightly less worried about Dragon Age now. But I must see it before I really believe it. Only an idiot would blindly trust Bioware/EA at this point in time. It's sad to say that, but I must be real here.
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Post by N7Pathfinder on Feb 27, 2021 10:41:18 GMT
Strange that the future Mass Effect game is not mentioned in this tweet. That makes me worry for the next Mass Effect game. Me too but i don't think they're gonna do the same mistake, they don't want another anthem or else the fans will riot.
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Post by KaiserShep on Feb 27, 2021 11:38:05 GMT
Actually, it could, instead, drive EA's push for a GaaS hit even harder, seeking to make all future Bioware products GaaS, until they finally make one out of them, no matter the cost, even if it is the closure of the studio.
However, the numerous lawsuits and country bans on lootboxes have deterred EA's predatory practices from "traditional" gaming segments, i.e. non-sports titles.
EA's ideal and next big bet, which they've partially already lost, is former Origin Access, now EA Play. They don't really care about game sales anymore, so much as building a subscriber base. For the time being, they are happy getting a piece of the pie out of Game Pass, but they are hoping to get more out of it. Especially since it helps them just not talk about game sales.
I'd argue that it would be pretty stupid on EA's part to force those titles to be GaaS. They're better off leaving them as live service, which - for sizable number of fans - is already a bridge too far. GaaS can't survive if you don't have the whole studio solely dedicated to the project. EA forcing BioWare into only making one game into maybe a successful GaaS title, while sacrificing the other IP's, would just be tons of potential revenue thrown down the drain. EA's already shown that they aren't willing to devote the resources to propping up a new GaaS installment, so I don't see why they'd want to go full steam ahead in basically axing multiple -potential - recurring revenue sources. And it was painfully clear with Anthem. BioWare is simply ill-suited to really support multiple titles with a multiplayer component, and it would make sense that they’d not bother having the Legendary Edition include it. More than likely, it would be a half-assed effort that would inevitably go dark once the new game came out, which doesn’t sound like a particularly sound investment.
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Post by ahglock on Feb 27, 2021 15:37:15 GMT
Well - At least this news, if it is true, gives me some hope for Dragon Age. As long as they don't fall for the "Game As A Service" trap, and deliver a half-bake product with the "promise" it will be great later on! Strange that the future Mass Effect game is not mentioned in this tweet. That makes me worry for the next Mass Effect game. Will they use the "core" gameplay of Anthem for the next Mass Effect? I certainly hope that's not the case, but I can see they can cut corners here by using the Anthem Next development, change some assets and plaster Mass Effect over it. Well - Time will tell... Anyway, I am slightly less worried about Dragon Age now. But I must see it before I really believe it. Only an idiot would blindly trust Bioware/EA at this point in time. It's sad to say that, but I must be real here. Maybe. It also shows bioware learned absolutely fucking nothing about getting shit done for 5 years and then trying to make a new game from scratch in 18 months. They are following the same exact track as MEA and Anthem where they do nothing, or they start, argue amongst each other getting no real work done and then do to time constraints eventually have to crap something out.
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Post by Croatsky on Feb 28, 2021 11:25:09 GMT
I'd argue that it would be pretty stupid on EA's part to force those titles to be GaaS. They're better off leaving them as live service, which - for sizable number of fans - is already a bridge too far. GaaS can't survive if you don't have the whole studio solely dedicated to the project. EA forcing BioWare into only making one game into maybe a successful GaaS title, while sacrificing the other IP's, would just be tons of potential revenue thrown down the drain. EA's already shown that they aren't willing to devote the resources to propping up a new GaaS installment, so I don't see why they'd want to go full steam ahead in basically axing multiple -potential - recurring revenue sources. And it was painfully clear with Anthem. BioWare is simply ill-suited to really support multiple titles with a multiplayer component, and it would make sense that they’d not bother having the Legendary Edition include it. More than likely, it would be a half-assed effort that would inevitably go dark once the new game came out, which doesn’t sound like a particularly sound investment. Also ME3 Co-Op was at it's best when they were doing constant updates and did weekly operations.
They would not do that again for remaster and it would have only succeeded in killing of ME3 and MEA Co-Op servers faster by diluting away already small but active community.
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